Author Topic: M26 and M46 Pershing, M47, M48, M60 Patton, and M103 Family of Vehicles  (Read 87197 times)

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Re: M26 and M46 Pershing, M47, M48, M60 Patton, and M103 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #100 on: July 22, 2014, 02:47:44 AM »
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand now back to our regular scheduled discussion of this topic... :)

Regarding the M60A3 tanks that are now owned and operated by the State of Washington State, Department of Transportation.  I would be nice to see these tanks repainted in WSDOT colors for the purpose of public relations and ownership purposes. 





*edit to fix abbreviation error that was brought to my attention by someone with a keener eye for the details.  Thanks Jon ;)
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Re: M26 and M46 Pershing, M47, M48, M60 Patton, and M103 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #101 on: July 22, 2014, 03:02:37 AM »
Ahem, Jeffry, that's WSDOT.  ;)

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Re: M26 and M46 Pershing, M47, M48, M60 Patton, and M103 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #102 on: July 22, 2014, 09:01:06 AM »
Well, there aren't many of them ............. but it takes at least one round of 105mm HEAT to stop one. ;)
At least we don't have to worry about bunyip infestations here in Washington State :)


*SIGH*, all but extinct nowadays, like so much of our native fauna, except in some quarters of the human population.  ;)

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Re: M26 and M46 Pershing, M47, M48, M60 Patton, and M103 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #103 on: July 23, 2014, 09:48:29 AM »
Super M60:



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Re: M26 and M46 Pershing, M47, M48, M60 Patton, and M103 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #104 on: January 27, 2015, 11:25:07 AM »
Conceptual extension of the M48A4 idea, albeit with the newer turret of M60A1 or even A3 instead:



It reminds me of T110E5 in World of Tanks except with mirrored TC position and a 105mm L7.

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Logan Hartke once mentioned the difficulty in putting applique armours onto the M48's hull:

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Re: M26 and M46 Pershing, M47, M48, M60 Patton, and M103 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #105 on: January 28, 2015, 02:46:13 PM »
Another private venture M60 upgrade from Turkey before the M60T came along......



This second .50 cal. MG looks interesting.  Can anyone identify it:



My first thought was...... anti-ATGM laser cannon in place of that .50 cal.?

(I know I've played too much C&C: Generals......)
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Re: M26 and M46 Pershing, M47, M48, M60 Patton, and M103 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #106 on: July 19, 2015, 04:57:37 AM »
Taking the old M48 in a new direction...the Israeli “Pereh”  (Wild) anti tank guided missile launcher vehicle - Based on the hull of the M48 tank, the Pereh features a sizable turret  with a fake gun barrel intended to hid its true mission of launching Tamuz ATGMs (also known as the Spike.)  The large bustle on the back of the turret pops up to reveal the launcher tubes, of which there are twelve.  According to Israel Defense, the Pereh has been in service for 30 years:







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Re: M26 and M46 Pershing, M47, M48, M60 Patton, and M103 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #107 on: July 19, 2015, 05:54:31 AM »
This will give Legend Productions something to do! I would never have thought that was an M48 under all that ERA.

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Re: M26 and M46 Pershing, M47, M48, M60 Patton, and M103 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #108 on: July 19, 2015, 06:23:57 AM »
this vehicle first publicly surfaced back in March - there is already a 1/72nd resin kit out there (I think by Cromwell).

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Re: M26 and M46 Pershing, M47, M48, M60 Patton, and M103 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #109 on: July 22, 2015, 07:43:58 AM »
Here I thought I had a scoop with a link from Foxtrot Alpha, when I find this stuff's been on here for two days. I do have an interesting thought, though. This is basically a Magach chassis with the missile launcher, and the Merkava VISMOD on the front. Wouldn't it be cool if they built a new turret with the missile launcher and some sort of autocannon so the vehicle's not toast if the enemy somehow closes with them.
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Re: M26 and M46 Pershing, M47, M48, M60 Patton, and M103 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #110 on: July 22, 2015, 09:56:51 AM »
Thinking a 20-25mm in that fake barrel might be useful.

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Re: M26 and M46 Pershing, M47, M48, M60 Patton, and M103 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #111 on: July 22, 2015, 09:59:48 AM »
Thinking a 20-25mm in that fake barrel might be useful.

Why not go with a 30mm? Better range and hitting power. 

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Re: M26 and M46 Pershing, M47, M48, M60 Patton, and M103 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #112 on: July 22, 2015, 10:08:06 AM »
There must be a self defense weapon of some kind on there.

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Re: M26 and M46 Pershing, M47, M48, M60 Patton, and M103 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #113 on: July 22, 2015, 10:13:05 AM »
It looks like most mount a FN machinegun or two on the turret.

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Re: M26 and M46 Pershing, M47, M48, M60 Patton, and M103 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #114 on: July 22, 2015, 01:00:46 PM »
With potentially a NLOS 15 km ranged missile I don't think you'd need more than a .50 cal for a self-defence weapon.

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Re: M26 and M46 Pershing, M47, M48, M60 Patton, and M103 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #115 on: July 28, 2015, 06:09:14 AM »
Taking the old M48 in a new direction...the Israeli “Pereh”  (Wild) anti tank guided missile launcher vehicle......


It makes me wonder if Israel would have found the 152mm gun-launcher useful as a demolition gun (see here for the reason why I'm interested in that question)......

(And then apply SPIKE missile technology on a Shillelagh development......)
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Re: M26 and M46 Pershing, M47, M48, M60 Patton, and M103 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #117 on: August 10, 2015, 11:38:05 AM »
Jane's - Analysis: IDF breaks 33-year silence on M48 Tamuz missile launcher


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While the IDF has not explained why it decided to lift the veil of secrecy around the Pere a year after 'Protective Edge', the move could contribute to deterrence, while also advertising the vehicle's existence to potential export clients.


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Re: M26 and M46 Pershing, M47, M48, M60 Patton, and M103 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #118 on: August 10, 2015, 05:49:59 PM »
That thought occurred to me as well, Guy....

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Re: M26 and M46 Pershing, M47, M48, M60 Patton, and M103 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #119 on: August 22, 2015, 10:46:33 PM »
Another private venture M60 upgrade from Turkey before the M60T came along......



This second .50 cal. MG looks interesting.  Can anyone identify it:



My first thought was...... anti-ATGM laser cannon in place of that .50 cal.?

(I know I've played too much C&C: Generals......)


I believe I read somewhere that the weapon in the second picture is a 25 mm autocannon. I will see if I can find the source as I thought that I had saved a document about this upgrade somewhere.

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Re: M26 and M46 Pershing, M47, M48, M60 Patton, and M103 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #120 on: August 23, 2015, 03:57:17 AM »
It is indeed a 25mm cannon (ATK LW25 to be specific - some details here and here: http://www.dtic.mil/ndia/2008gun_missile/6317LambJames.pdf) with 300 rounds.
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« Reply #121 on: August 23, 2015, 09:27:39 AM »
It is indeed a 25mm cannon (ATK LW25 to be specific - some details here and here: http://www.dtic.mil/ndia/2008gun_missile/6317LambJames.pdf) with 300 rounds.


I think the most important question is does anyone make a 1/35 scale version of it? I can see a few places I would like to use it.

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Re: M26 and M46 Pershing, M47, M48, M60 Patton, and M103 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #122 on: December 30, 2015, 02:45:47 PM »
Following up on that picture of M48 with T95 turret, would the stock M48 turret already be roomy enough to accommodate the short-barrel 152mm gun-launcher's recoil?

I keep on having this idea of a missile tank variant of M48A3 equipped with reactive armours, the gun launcher and a HESH round to go with the gun (so that the tank can serve a cover or secondary role as a siege vehicle) although I am under the impression that mass-producing the T95 turret might be a lot of hassle compared to simply up-gun the existing one.
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Re: M26 and M46 Pershing, M47, M48, M60 Patton, and M103 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #123 on: December 30, 2015, 04:58:53 PM »
There is the M728 Combat Engineer tank with the 165mm gun.


Maybe this is what you were thinking of. IIRC the gun was very effective.

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Re: M26 and M46 Pershing, M47, M48, M60 Patton, and M103 Family of Vehicles
« Reply #124 on: December 30, 2015, 11:25:59 PM »
There is the M728 Combat Engineer tank with the 165mm gun.


Maybe this is what you were thinking of. IIRC the gun was very effective.


I...... want that Shillelagh capability to be exploited somewhere down the road though.  Previous post edited accordingly.
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