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Title: Armed Trucks
Post by: Jeffry Fontaine on April 10, 2012, 02:13:26 AM: Also known as Gun Trucks or Technicals.

Anthony Guarderas is building an M915 Guntruck (http://www.network54.com/Forum/110741/thread/1333913627/M915+Guntruck) and has shared some work in progress images of the project at the Missing-Lynx forums.

Click on html or image to view article.

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w269/superdope66/DSC_0089-2.jpg) (http://www.network54.com/Forum/110741/thread/1333913627/M915+Guntruck)
(Image source: Anthony Guarderas)
Title: Re: Armed Trucks
Post by: Daryl J. on April 10, 2012, 05:11:44 AM: That redoes the visuals that accompany C.W. McCall's song ''Convoy".

Neat project.
Title: Re: Armed Trucks
Post by: Jeffry Fontaine on April 10, 2012, 05:35:46 AM: How about a gun truck that predates the above that mates an M54 series 5 Ton Truck with the hull of an M113 (http://news.webshots.com/album/92508045vVhFUA)? It was called the Alabama Slammer.

Of course there were the gun trucks created during the Vietnam conflict that had an M113 APC in the cargo bed of the truck but the above turns the M113 into the body of the vehicle and it looks like an easy conversion with the kits currently available.

Search engine results for Alabama Slammer Gun Truck (http://www.google.com/search?q=Alabama+Slammer&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=kAN&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&biw=1608&bih=1027&sclient=psy-ab&q=Alabama+Slammer+gun+truck&oq=Alabama+Slammer+gun+truck&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=serp.3...15196l17395l0l17788l10l10l0l0l0l0l395l2046l0j6j3j1l10l0.frgbld.&pbx=1&fp=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&cad=b)
Title: Re: Armed Trucks
Post by: raafif on April 11, 2012, 08:10:20 AM: does this armed grader count ?
Title: Re: Armed Trucks
Post by: GTX_Admin on April 11, 2012, 08:10:56 AM: Quote from: raafif on April 11, 2012, 08:10:20 AM
does this armed grader count ?
([url]http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s34/hobgrot/Chad.jpg[/url])

err...no image!
Title: Re: Armed Trucks
Post by: raafif on April 11, 2012, 08:13:54 AM: you're too quick, Greg !
Bloody photobucket's pathetic rules on "copyright" removed it.
Title: Re: Armed Trucks
Post by: GTX_Admin on April 11, 2012, 08:21:51 AM: Quote from: raafif on April 11, 2012, 08:13:54 AM
you're too quick, Greg !

Yeah, that's what the wife said too... ;)
Title: Re: Armed Trucks
Post by: jcf on April 11, 2012, 02:28:47 PM: 'Technically' armed trucks pre-date WWI and many of the early armored cars were nothing more than
an armored body on a standard heavy saloon car or truck chassis, so the subject is wide open. ;D

McClean's gas-operated 37mm auto-cannon, truck-mounted in 1904:
http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USN/ref/MG/I/img/MG-1-121-79.jpg (http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USN/ref/MG/I/img/MG-1-121-79.jpg)
Mack armored car:
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2542/4117339531_e20b11d2b5_o.jpg)

100 year chronology of US armored cars that shows how closely related 'modern' armored gun trucks
are to the early days of wheeled armor.
http://www.warwheels.net/USAacChronologyHAUGH.html (http://www.warwheels.net/USAacChronologyHAUGH.html)
Title: Re: Armed Trucks
Post by: dogsbodymk1 on April 14, 2012, 02:11:55 PM: This has been posted before on another forum.

Chris
Title: Re: Armed Trucks
Post by: dogsbodymk1 on April 14, 2012, 02:16:52 PM: Another one.
Title: Re: Armed Trucks
Post by: dy031101 on April 14, 2012, 09:06:28 PM: I remember Pakistan did mass-produce an AFV out of a wheeled tractor basis.
Title: Re: Armed Trucks
Post by: elmayerle on April 15, 2012, 06:15:50 AM: Ford F350 with a quad-.50 cal mount? I swear I've got a pic of something like that buried somewhere.
Title: Re: Armed Trucks
Post by: GTX_Admin on January 27, 2013, 04:20:44 AM: Not sure if it is armed...but it looks like it might be:

(http://englishrussia.com/images/dragon_tank_truck/1.jpg)
(http://englishrussia.com/images/dragon_tank_truck/2.jpg)
Title: Re: Armed Trucks
Post by: raafif on February 03, 2013, 11:05:59 AM: Afghanistan .... a Scud missile is launched but falls back causing much damage to the Maz launch-vehicle. The crew are told to join an infantry unit but decide to do the relatively minor repairs to the still largely complete vehicle & convert it into a Gun-Truck ..... (possible future project ;) )
Title: Re: Armed Trucks
Post by: Rickshaw on February 03, 2013, 11:09:06 AM: On something that big, I'd want something a little heavier than a 14.5mm. Perhaps a 73mm from a BMP-1? Loads of interesting places you've put those 12.7mm DShKs. ;D
Title: Re: Armed Trucks
Post by: Kerick on February 03, 2013, 11:43:27 AM: Quote from: Jeffry Fontaine on April 10, 2012, 05:35:46 AM
How about a gun truck that predates the above that mates an M54 series 5 Ton Truck with the hull of an M113 ([url]http://news.webshots.com/album/92508045vVhFUA[/url])? It was called the Alabama Slammer.

Of course there were the gun trucks created during the Vietnam conflict that had an M113 APC in the cargo bed of the truck but the above turns the M113 into the body of the vehicle and it looks like an easy conversion with the kits currently available.

Search engine results for Alabama Slammer Gun Truck ([url]http://www.google.com/search?q=Alabama+Slammer&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=kAN&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&biw=1608&bih=1027&sclient=psy-ab&q=Alabama+Slammer+gun+truck&oq=Alabama+Slammer+gun+truck&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=serp.3...15196l17395l0l17788l10l10l0l0l0l0l395l2046l0j6j3j1l10l0.frgbld.&pbx=1&fp=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&cad=b[/url])

Here's a shot of the Alabama Slammer under construction.
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://i446.photobucket.com/albums/qq184/abflug_r34/reference%2520photos/M923%2520What%2520tha/095acfea.jpg&imgrefurl=http://armorama.kitmaker.net/modules.php?op%3Dmodload%26name%3DSquawkBox%26file%3Dindex%26req%3Dviewtopic%26topic_id%3D131216&h=426&w=640&sz=55&tbnid=xjsT1PaHcPBSmM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=135&zoom=1&usg=__d611yCNmGyB_6YpojwcOUmyUqiw=&docid=gOTmsTBP1syB1M&hl=en&sa=X&ei=P9cNUe0WgdbKAaKDgLAD&ved=0CGMQ9QEwCA&dur=1096 (http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://i446.photobucket.com/albums/qq184/abflug_r34/reference%2520photos/M923%2520What%2520tha/095acfea.jpg&imgrefurl=http://armorama.kitmaker.net/modules.php?op%3Dmodload%26name%3DSquawkBox%26file%3Dindex%26req%3Dviewtopic%26topic_id%3D131216&h=426&w=640&sz=55&tbnid=xjsT1PaHcPBSmM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=135&zoom=1&usg=__d611yCNmGyB_6YpojwcOUmyUqiw=&docid=gOTmsTBP1syB1M&hl=en&sa=X&ei=P9cNUe0WgdbKAaKDgLAD&ved=0CGMQ9QEwCA&dur=1096)
An article I read about it said they builders were considering using an M900 series truck instead of an M800 series for more power and more electrical power to run a minigun. I bought the kits for this and just haven't started it yet.
Title: Re: Armed Trucks
Post by: Mark Aldrich on February 08, 2013, 11:02:07 PM: The IDF had lots of these running around between 1948-1950. Anything and everything was pretty much used as a base vehicle. I am currently working on one based on the M3A1 Scout Car.
Title: Re: Armed Trucks
Post by: raafif on February 09, 2013, 06:02:16 AM: Armed jeep, Korea !!! ... thinking airfied defense.

(http://gallery3.kitmaker.net/data/28158/003_2_10.jpg)

(http://gallery3.kitmaker.net/data/28158/00224.jpg)

http://gallery3.kitmaker.net/showgallery.php/cat/28158 (http://gallery3.kitmaker.net/showgallery.php/cat/28158)
you have to be registered to see all the pics.
Title: Re: Armed Trucks
Post by: Logan Hartke on February 09, 2013, 07:38:29 AM: That looks awesome. Great photos, too!

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Armed Trucks
Post by: GTX_Admin on February 09, 2013, 06:30:02 PM: Wicked!
Title: Re: Armed Trucks
Post by: Kerick on February 10, 2013, 12:38:02 AM: I can't help wondering how they changed the whole drive train of that jeep. Or did they just drive it around in reverse all the time?
All that armor plate and three man crew must have maxed out the weight limit.
Title: Re: Armed Trucks
Post by: Rickshaw on February 10, 2013, 09:10:30 AM: Quote from: kerick on February 10, 2013, 12:38:02 AM
I can't help wondering how they changed the whole drive train of that jeep. Or did they just drive it around in reverse all the time?
All that armor plate and three man crew must have maxed out the weight limit.

I think you can see how over-weight it is by how far down the springs are compressed on the "front" suspension.

I wonder how much armour it could carry? No more than 5mm, I'd guess.

As to the drivetrain, I suspect they simply placed the front axle on the "front" and the rear axle on the "rear". The transfer case is in the middle on the original Jeep IIRC so the engine would simply drive the gear box and then the transfer case. They'd have to then reverse the seats and put the steering wheel and box at the "front".

It is a well thought out design and must have taken some time to build but I don't see it beyond a well-equipped base workshop's capabilities. The 57mm Rcl is a bit over the top though...
Title: Re: Armed Trucks
Post by: jschmus on January 05, 2014, 11:02:05 AM: I do not know the story behind this image. It was posted on the What If forum.
(http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20061218191640/de.uncyclopedia/images/b/b6/Bf2.jpg)
Title: Re: Armed Trucks
Post by: tankmodeler on January 05, 2014, 11:45:04 AM: Obviously well prepped for the next Car Wars autoduel!
Title: Re: Armed Trucks
Post by: jschmus on October 01, 2016, 04:30:16 AM: Holy thread revival, Batman!!! That's what happens when someone doesn't spend a lot of time on the site anymore because of internet access issues. Anyway, I did a Google image search for technicals, and I found this treasure from the Concept Vehicles blog.
(http://www.igorstshirts.com/blog/conceptvehicles/2013/elijah_mcneal/elijah_01.jpg)
Title: Re: Armed Trucks
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 01, 2016, 05:23:31 AM: Wow!
Title: Re: Armed Trucks
Post by: Kerick on October 01, 2016, 08:56:48 AM: Trick is finding enough fuel and oil to keep it running!
Title: Re: Armed Trucks
Post by: turtle on October 01, 2016, 03:42:30 PM: When searching use Image search and the terms improvised armoured ............... will give the most 'interesting' results.

Mining dump trucks are already a 1:1 reality, or if you would prefer a front-end loader:
Title: Re: Armed Trucks
Post by: M.A.D on October 10, 2016, 05:57:28 AM: Quote from: turtle on October 01, 2016, 03:42:30 PM
When searching use Image search and the terms improvised armoured ............... will give the most 'interesting' results.

Mining dump trucks are already a 1:1 reality, or if you would prefer a front-end loader:

I dove one of these 100 ton trucks in the Iron Ore mines Mount Newman Western Australia for a couple of weeks back in the early 90's - An eye opening experience!

Add a dozer/mine plough arrangement at the front (the solid wheels would translate any AT mines blast right through the vehicle - trust me, you don't want to be changing one of these tires in the field! ;)
The bucket on the back would afford much armoured protection - divide into compartments for POL, water, food, and ammo;
a 120mm mortar on a 360-degree turntable - to reach out and touch somebody;
at least one ZU-23-2 23mm gun mount for anti-aircraft and engagement of high elevation targets;
a couple of Mk 19 40mm grenade launcher for close protection ;
four banks of smoke/grenade discharges - you don't want enemy infantry/rebels getting under or on this thing!.....

Ha, in hindsight, carting iron ore seems very boring now ::)

And just think what you could do with the 200 ton 6x6 variant :P

M.A.D
Title: Re: Armed Trucks
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 10, 2016, 08:17:33 AM: Quote from: M.A.D on October 10, 2016, 05:57:28 AM

a 120mm mortar on a 360-degree turntable - to reach out and touch somebody;
at least one ZU-23-2 23mm gun mount for anti-aircraft and engagement of high elevation targets;
a couple of Mk 19 40mm grenade launcher for close protection ;
four banks of smoke/grenade discharges - you don't want enemy infantry/rebels getting under or on this thing!.....

Bah! Why go small? Fit a battleship turret in the rear and a couple of CIWS... ;)

I was just looking. The BelAZ 75710 shown below can carry a 450 metric tonne load!!! :o

(http://www.hughestrueman.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/belaz75710.jpg)(http://motoroids.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Belaz-75710-2.jpg)(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/BvDAfamp5Eo/maxresdefault.jpg)

We're into Land ship territory now baby!!

Anyone know of any kits?
Title: Re: Armed Trucks
Post by: tankmodeler on October 19, 2016, 01:02:24 AM: Talk about yer ultimate zombie apocalypse vehicle!

I worked in an open pit mine for a semester in the late 70s. We had 120t and 170t trucks. They repeatedly warned everyone who drove in the pit to never, ever, for any reason, stop or park or stand to the right of a haul truck. The nearest thing they could see to that side was 250 yards away. Yet, pretty much once a year, someone parked to the right of a truck with disastrous results. In the 10 years the mine had been open at that point there had been 11 incidents where a haul truck rolled over a pick-up truck (usually Ford F-150 crew cabs) and not once, ever, had the driver of the haul truck known he had driven over someone or even felt the bump as anything different than the bumpy bottom of the pit.

A very instructive work term, to be sure.

Paul
Title: Re: Armed Trucks
Post by: Kerick on October 19, 2016, 09:49:26 AM: Must use a locomotive engine!
Title: Re: Armed Trucks
Post by: Weaver on October 19, 2016, 11:29:57 AM: The big dump trucks look like something you could scaleorama using a big-scale dump truck (maybe a toy) and a small-scale cab, ladders and details.
Title: Re: Armed Trucks
Post by: turtle on October 19, 2016, 06:11:02 PM: Quote from: GTX_Admin on October 10, 2016, 08:17:33 AM
Bah! Why go small? Fit a battleship turret in the rear
Anyone know of any kits?

Not quite a battleship turret but flogged off a minesweeper (AK-230) :D (attachment)
Kits are available for almost all the Belaz mining truck range @ 43rd scale (most common diecast vehicle scale) however be prepared to sacrifice your firstborn to pay for it :icon_crap:
Title: Re: Armed Trucks
Post by: The Big Gimper on November 12, 2020, 06:05:59 PM: (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Emj5zy_VMAAb9gW?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: Armed Trucks
Post by: perttime on November 13, 2020, 01:33:36 PM: Some of these remind me of the "killdozer incident"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Heemeyer#Bulldozer_modification (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Heemeyer#Bulldozer_modification)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlZh9-NQEyI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlZh9-NQEyI)
Title: Re: Armed Trucks
Post by: newtonk on November 14, 2020, 03:51:59 AM: How about this,
Title: Re: Armed Trucks
Post by: Frank3k on November 14, 2020, 08:15:36 AM: Those Ural trucks can really take a beating. Looks like the driver in the first picture was in his seat when the gun was fired...
Title: Re: Armed Trucks
Post by: Story on December 12, 2023, 09:05:49 PM: Bir Hakim

(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/36/51/17/36511733f8f9367072deed80b6301daf.jpg)

(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/69/1a/2b/691a2bee98284436d9cada70c4d35d9c.jpg)
Title: Re: Armed Trucks
Post by: GTX_Admin on December 13, 2023, 01:06:15 AM: That looks a bit like something I have planned (and indeed have the kits for). Basically replace the 40mm gun on this:

(https://leicestermodellers.weebly.com/uploads/8/0/9/7/8097807/8734878_orig.jpg)

With this:

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/716XcaVxCVL._AC_SL1500_.jpg)

And thus create a truck mounted rapidly moved tank destroyer type thing.
Title: Re: Armed Trucks
Post by: Story on December 17, 2023, 11:44:22 PM: Quote from: GTX_Admin on December 13, 2023, 01:06:15 AM

And thus create a truck mounted rapidly moved tank destroyer type thing.

If I was the shop yard OIC, I'd suggest putting the 17pdr in a 25lbr cradle (aka Pheasant) and 360 turn table. Lose the wheels, crimp the legs so they can lock down on the edges of the turntable and you'd get 270 degrees pretty fast. Just be mindful of rollover recoil at 9 and 3 o'clock.

(https://reviews.ipmsusa.org/sites/default/files/reviews/british-1725-pounder-anti-tank-gun-pheasant/paint-guide-od.jpg)
Title: Re: Armed Trucks
Post by: GTX_Admin on February 25, 2024, 04:02:44 AM: (https://media.licdn.com/dms/image/D5622AQEfBhNPc4vHnQ/feedshare-shrink_2048_1536/0/1708729398322?e=1711584000&v=beta&t=O3WaliK1OYEpYfLktjAMjbMeXPUGMfPG8ogBW10bK4g)

CFBV
Title: Re: Armed Trucks
Post by: M.A.D on March 09, 2024, 01:11:43 PM: Quote from: GTX_Admin on December 13, 2023, 01:06:15 AM
That looks a bit like something I have planned (and indeed have the kits for). Basically replace the 40mm gun on this:

(https://leicestermodellers.weebly.com/uploads/8/0/9/7/8097807/8734878_orig.jpg)

With this:

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/716XcaVxCVL._AC_SL1500_.jpg)

And thus create a truck mounted rapidly moved tank destroyer type thing.

Did you end up building it Greg?😯

MAD
Title: Re: Armed Trucks
Post by: GTX_Admin on March 10, 2024, 01:39:41 AM: Not yet. I have the kits but life keeps getting in the way...
Title: Re: Armed Trucks
Post by: raafif on March 10, 2024, 07:33:40 AM: Czech Tatra SOT .. planning to do similar on a HEMMT.
Title: Re: Armed Trucks
Post by: Old Wombat on March 10, 2024, 10:11:06 PM: (https://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1210.0;attach=42371;image)

Wanted one of these since I first saw it but wa-ay too rich for my blood! :-* :o
Title: Re: Armed Trucks
Post by: Story on April 16, 2024, 03:23:15 AM: (https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/437056256_838315514998453_2614202933674356089_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_p180x540&_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=Q1D3QAt-RVgAb4ste4_&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=00_AfBKbZ3YEWN1qHvvKY2A3FS9CiCbQHOAOyZrF3EbxbUcsw&oe=662366DE)