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Re: P-51 Mustang and Derivates Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #75 on: May 30, 2012, 12:35:27 AM »
After the F-52, the F-52F turned back to single engine, like a "normal" Mustang...
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Re: P-51 Mustang and Derivates Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #76 on: May 30, 2012, 09:10:48 AM »


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Re: P-51 Mustang and Derivates Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #77 on: May 30, 2012, 11:02:19 AM »
Wow! Even better! :-*
Uh... still North American F-52 or else: Blom and Vost Co. F-141? ;)

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Re: P-51 Mustang and Derivates Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #78 on: May 31, 2012, 11:54:30 AM »
Dear Raafif, it seems you have started a dangerous delirium process, wild as a Mustang and violent as a Tornado... ;)

Well, the F-52T-2 has been refused by USAAF, arguing that a Tornado is an odd phenomenon, so the number of engine must be odd (1 or 3 or 5...). North American engineers immediately proposed the 3-engined F-52U that was ordered for 10,000 copies. Alas, there were not enough engines available, and the order was changed to 5,000 F-52Z Twin-Tornado. Cancellation of this one too brought back to the famous F-82 Twin-Mustang, this is the true story of it (my psychiatrist does agree).

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Re: P-51 Mustang and Derivates Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #79 on: May 31, 2012, 12:44:22 PM »
he he ;D     I'm sure I've got another variation bubbling away in the brain-box but my voodoo shaman threatens to ban me from his offices if I bother him again in the next few days :icon_crap:

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Re: P-51 Mustang and Derivates Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #80 on: June 09, 2012, 05:43:57 AM »
Mindless play:



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Re: P-51 Mustang and Derivates Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #81 on: June 09, 2012, 11:58:58 AM »
Thanks GTX. The radial D is not a dream though, I have seen its project in a magazine (APR?).

Concerning dreams, Raafif's ones went on nicely at http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=852.105
and I add a twin with 2 pilots for very long flights:

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Re: P-51 Mustang and Derivates Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #82 on: June 10, 2012, 03:50:00 PM »
The radial-engine diameter could be the overall size for the fuselage, into streamlined 'improved' beauties...

Re: P-51 Mustang and Derivates Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #83 on: June 10, 2012, 08:19:13 PM »
The wings off of a Plasticart Mil Mi-6 don't look half bad on a P-51 if anyone was thinking of doing a high-altitude variant. The wing root chords are pretty close.  ;)
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Re: P-51 Mustang and Derivates Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #84 on: June 11, 2012, 12:43:59 AM »
Do you mean a High-Altitude 51 with the span of a P-82?

Re: P-51 Mustang and Derivates Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #85 on: June 11, 2012, 07:18:00 AM »
^ The result would indeed be similar to (but not quite as extreme as) your HA-51D, Tophe. It also has the benefit of being quite in keeping with the planform of the original wing.

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Re: P-51 Mustang and Derivates Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #86 on: October 02, 2012, 12:46:15 PM »
Racing Twin Mustang!  :-*
Based on the real Reno Racer "Precious Metal" (LINK)


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Re: P-51 Mustang and Derivates Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #87 on: October 02, 2012, 12:53:02 PM »
This is a micture of mine, see http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/Fake_aircraft.htm
Your source robbed it without a mention...

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Re: P-51 Mustang and Derivates Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #88 on: October 02, 2012, 02:23:51 PM »
Just love where the guy on Something Awful claims he "lucky enough to see and hear precious metal twin fly".

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Re: P-51 Mustang and Derivates Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #89 on: October 03, 2012, 02:29:37 AM »
Allison engined variant on floats. 
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Re: P-51 Mustang and Derivates Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #90 on: October 03, 2012, 03:34:31 AM »
Racing Twin Mustang!  :-*
Based on the real Reno Racer "Precious Metal" (LINK)


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Most awesome 12 Thrashing Blades of pure Griffon roar.

The only change I would suggest is the left vertical stabilizer read "38L" and the right "38R".   ;D
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Re: P-51 Mustang and Derivates Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #91 on: October 03, 2012, 10:53:17 AM »
I liked Tophe's pilotless Twin Mustang too!
http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/m1170005b.jpg
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Re: P-51 Mustang and Derivates Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #92 on: November 01, 2012, 08:10:43 AM »
Found this at the Fine Scale Modeler forums (click on image or html to view article):

F-82R (R for racer) Twin Mustang built by Howard Markel


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Re: P-51 Mustang and Derivates Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #93 on: November 01, 2012, 07:00:50 PM »
Wow!
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Re: P-51 Mustang and Derivates Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #94 on: November 01, 2012, 11:18:08 PM »
Very cool, and also very funny as he's made the same mistake as was made with the original
XP-82: the props are rotating out, so they are rotating in and up in the center which, it turned out,
creates drag and stalls the center section of the wing. The result was that the XP-82 refused to fly.
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Swapping the handed engines around so that the props rotated in at the top cured the problem.
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Re: P-51 Mustang and Derivates Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #95 on: November 02, 2012, 03:48:32 AM »
My eyes see prop blades that are backwards and rotating down in the middle.  8)
Fun kit!  And even better fact about the XP-82.  I had no idea and had wondered since childhood why the props rotated like they did.
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Re: P-51 Mustang and Derivates Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #96 on: November 08, 2012, 12:33:50 PM »
the Corstang ....
http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal8/7001-7100/gal7073-Corstang-Miller/00.shtm



Hai! Are the Corsair wings that you drafted the same scale as the P-51 body their on? and how did you make that extra airscoop, right in front of the wings on the body?

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Re: P-51 Mustang and Derivates Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #97 on: December 30, 2012, 09:43:03 PM »
Has anyone built a 1/72 P-51 with Ram jets on the wing tips? Nicely done by Skyraider for the Japanese Secret Projects Dust Jacket.


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The real thing:
 

And Hasegawa had a 1/48 kit here.  Built here.

Would the propulsion engineers care to step in and make suggestions what they would look like in 1/72?  Looks likes a simple tube but it does not have a constant diameter. Tapered front and back.
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Re: P-51 Mustang and Derivates Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #98 on: January 08, 2013, 09:53:34 AM »
Combine the ramjets with one of the Reno racers... >:D
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Re: P-51 Mustang and Derivates Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #99 on: January 08, 2013, 12:02:33 PM »
“Begin the Beguine”
http://www.airnews.co.za/march/article_march_the_beguine_story.html


(tho actually these are the oil-coolers from the removed belly-scoop)