Author Topic: Sd.Kfz. 234/5  (Read 21826 times)

Offline Claymore

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Sd.Kfz. 234/5
« on: October 12, 2016, 05:53:11 AM »
Having started the M3 Stonewall FSV early and pushed it through to the painting stage, I've been thinking of perhaps doing a second build for the GB. 

This is another design I have had kicking around for some time and although I've had a Sd.Kfz. 234/2 Puma hull lying around since I built the little 'Otter' air-portable panzer, it was only today that I picked up a Sd.Kfz. 251/1 in a clearance sale for £10 - bargain!

The plan would be to smash the two kits together to create a wheeled APC something like...

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Re: Sd.Kfz. 234/5
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2016, 06:09:49 AM »
Snap !

been down the same path, would love to see your take though

Offline Claymore

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Re: Sd.Kfz. 234/5
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2016, 06:22:42 AM »
Doh!  :icon_surprised:

Nice looking job there.  Hopefully, my design will be different enough not to count as plagiarism!  ;)
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Re: Sd.Kfz. 234/5
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2016, 08:46:19 AM »
Have to say, I think Buzzbomb's layout, with the longer mudguard forward, is better looking. It matches the line and angle of the bonnet (hood) better.
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Offline Claymore

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Re: Sd.Kfz. 234/5
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2016, 03:30:19 PM »
Hmmm, each to their own. Although, I might do a bit of redesign work on the rear part of the mudguard as there is a lot of wasted space that could be used for stowage as per the later models of the Sd.Kfz. 251/1. Standby to standby...  ;)
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Offline Old Wombat

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Re: Sd.Kfz. 234/5
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2016, 03:31:44 PM »
And he's off with build #2! :D
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Offline Claymore

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Re: Sd.Kfz. 234/5
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2016, 07:20:21 PM »
What can I say, I'm like butter... I'm on a roll!  ;)

OK a little bit of redesign and I think it looks a lot better for it and would be more practical.  Well I think so anyway!  :P



Now to see if I can build the damned thing!
« Last Edit: October 12, 2016, 07:23:42 PM by Claymore »
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Re: Sd.Kfz. 234/5
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2016, 08:30:09 PM »
I like it! :)

Vehicle tools & supplies, & the troops' non-combat equipment could be stashed in the bins & keep the interior less cluttered, whilst allowing it to be more independent of a fixed base.

Jerry can racks at the rear might be useful, too.
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Offline Claymore

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Re: Sd.Kfz. 234/5
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2016, 08:54:35 PM »
Agreed, you can't have too many Jerry cans - especially if you are a Jerry!  ;)
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Re: Sd.Kfz. 234/5
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2016, 03:01:26 AM »
Agreed, you can't have too many Jerry cans - especially if you are a Jerry!  ;)

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Offline Weaver

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Re: Sd.Kfz. 234/5
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2016, 05:32:42 AM »
Agreed, you can't have too many Jerry cans - especially if you are a Jerry!  ;)

That's shocking...show yourself to the door...and don't forget your hat and coat!

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Offline Claymore

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Re: Sd.Kfz. 234/5
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2016, 05:50:56 AM »
Taxi!  ;)
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Re: Sd.Kfz. 234/5
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2016, 05:54:05 AM »
<...>OK a little bit of redesign and I think it looks a lot better for it and would be more practical.  Well I think so anyway!  :P



Now to see if I can build the damned thing!

That looks rather convincing.  :)
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Offline Claymore

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Re: Sd.Kfz. 234/5
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2016, 06:24:10 AM »
Cheers Jeff.  :)
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Offline Buzzbomb

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Re: Sd.Kfz. 234/5
« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2016, 07:33:22 AM »
I like the refined design, it has all the practicality needed.

there is a challenging difference in chassis width

Which I am pretty sure you will solve better than my Saracenesque cop out solution

Offline Logan Hartke

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Re: Sd.Kfz. 234/5
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2016, 08:52:12 AM »
People don't realize just how small the SdKfz 251 really was. The interior of the M3 halftrack was really roomy by comparison.

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Offline Kerick

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Re: Sd.Kfz. 234/5
« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2016, 09:56:15 AM »
I say just do it!!

Offline Claymore

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Re: Sd.Kfz. 234/5
« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2016, 05:40:28 AM »
Early days as yet but starting to take shape.  I have decided that the Sd.Kfz. 234/5 will be called the 'Mammoth'

« Last Edit: November 02, 2023, 10:23:27 PM by Claymore »
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Re: Sd.Kfz. 234/5
« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2016, 05:52:14 AM »
It looks a bit like a GTX Boxer base vehicle with its rear removed in that pic.
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Offline Claymore

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Re: Sd.Kfz. 234/5
« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2016, 06:10:34 AM »
I guess it does but then again both vehicles are designed for the same task so...
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Offline Claymore

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Re: Sd.Kfz. 234/5
« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2016, 02:11:03 AM »
I've been doing a little bit more on the Sd.Kfz. 234/5 Mammut (Mammoth) and things are definitely taking shape...



« Last Edit: November 02, 2023, 10:24:18 PM by Claymore »
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Offline taiidantomcat

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Re: Sd.Kfz. 234/5
« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2016, 03:21:59 AM »
Nice job!! Looking very natural
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Offline Kerick

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Re: Sd.Kfz. 234/5
« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2016, 03:43:21 AM »
And a little bit Russian!  ;)
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Offline Claymore

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Re: Sd.Kfz. 234/5
« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2016, 04:03:23 AM »
Thanks guys.

So far so good - everything seems to be fitting together nicely.  Moving the Sd.Kfz 234 engine deck to the front certainly gives the Mammoth a square-jawed powerful look. 
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Offline Old Wombat

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Re: Sd.Kfz. 234/5
« Reply #24 on: October 17, 2016, 05:43:27 PM »
 :)
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