Author Topic: Space Federation Scramble Ship FSS-3R ‘squid’  (Read 18775 times)

Offline Kerick

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Re: Space Federation Scramble Ship FSS-3R ‘squid’
« Reply #25 on: November 16, 2019, 05:09:08 AM »
Maybe some random panels and ribbing. Something to look like reinforcement and operating parts for the hinges. Just my $0.02 worth.
Great looking project. Wish I could think of something like that.

Offline Old Wombat

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Re: Space Federation Scramble Ship FSS-3R ‘squid’
« Reply #26 on: November 16, 2019, 10:50:48 PM »
Ribbing, a few raised panels & hydraulic actuators for the "knuckles" (?) would be my suggestion, looks a bit bland without something there.
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Re: Space Federation Scramble Ship FSS-3R ‘squid’
« Reply #27 on: November 16, 2019, 11:36:25 PM »
Ribbing, a few raised panels & hydraulic actuators for the "knuckles" (?) would be my suggestion, looks a bit bland without something there.

Maybe some decals? Many airliner sheets have bits that can pass as grated vents like the side panels on the engine pylons for the starship Enterprise. Both the 1/144 Minicraft Delta and United DC-8s have these.

Of course, I always look for the easy way out.  ;)

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Offline Robomog

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Re: Space Federation Scramble Ship FSS-3R ‘squid’
« Reply #28 on: November 17, 2019, 10:01:02 AM »
Thanks for the suggestions guys, much appreciated.

I now believe I have to put something on the tops of the grab arms but I want to keep it subtle, this space ship is all about speed so equipment will be basic and kept to a bare minimum, so by definition not too many "greeblies".

I feel a trawling of the internet coming on.

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Re: Space Federation Scramble Ship FSS-3R ‘squid’
« Reply #29 on: November 19, 2019, 01:17:06 PM »
Still watching and liking what I see

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Re: Space Federation Scramble Ship FSS-3R ‘squid’
« Reply #30 on: November 20, 2019, 01:48:37 AM »
You can use Gundam "detail up" parts. This HLJ search for Gundam and Science Fiction detail up parts is pretty extensive.

Offline Robomog

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Re: Space Federation Scramble Ship FSS-3R ‘squid’
« Reply #31 on: November 20, 2019, 08:06:28 PM »
Hi all

Buzzbomb :-  thanks

Frank3k :-  some interesting stuff there thanks for the heads up

Trawling the interwebs for ideas didn't come to much so I'm going to have to do my own thing !!

More when it happens

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Offline tankmodeler

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Re: Space Federation Scramble Ship FSS-3R ‘squid’
« Reply #32 on: November 28, 2019, 10:36:18 PM »
this space ship is all about speed so equipment will be basic and kept to a bare minimum, so by definition not too many "greeblies".
Well, I can see that adding a lot of things that indicate various and complex systems is not what you're looking for, but something has to operate the petals and a nice clean look, as you have here, to me implies housings and covers and things to keep it neat and tidy and those things add mass. Bare bones exposed power lines, structure and radiators, etc. speaks to it being stripped down and mass optimised. If you look at real mass optimised (= simple) spacecraft you see exposed everything they are very cluttered but without a lot of actual things, it's just exposed propellant lines and harnesses and isogrids and trusses and boxes with exposed Mylar insulation, etc.

Now, that may come from me being a spacecraft engineer in real life as I know that adding stuff to visually provide a clean look and hide the gubbins always takes more mass, so your mileage may vary. :D

Paul

Offline elmayerle

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Re: Space Federation Scramble Ship FSS-3R ‘squid’
« Reply #33 on: November 29, 2019, 03:45:01 AM »
Having worked on various trusses of the ISS, I will agree with Paul's comments.  I think of all the exposed fluid lines and power cables on the solar power trusses (S4, S6, P4, and P6 if you're being technical) and I would agree with him.  The fluid lines have insulation around them, but it's tight and the power cables definitely are shielded and insulated, but the rest is open truss work.

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Re: Space Federation Scramble Ship FSS-3R ‘squid’
« Reply #34 on: November 29, 2019, 07:04:14 AM »
Guys, thanks for the input, I will keep all those points in mind.

Man you have some interesting jobs !

Mog
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Re: Space Federation Scramble Ship FSS-3R ‘squid’
« Reply #35 on: November 29, 2019, 07:54:07 AM »
Fine build, fun and pegs the originality meter.  8)

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Re: Space Federation Scramble Ship FSS-3R ‘squid’
« Reply #36 on: November 29, 2019, 09:03:42 PM »
Fine build, fun and pegs the originality meter.  8)

Definitely!

Mog is always up to something interesting!

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Re: Space Federation Scramble Ship FSS-3R ‘squid’
« Reply #37 on: November 29, 2019, 11:13:03 PM »
Thanks for the comments guys.

A little more progress, I have completed the detail on the bottom of the grab arms. I think I now have an idea if what to do with the tops it will be a combination of plasticard and decal detail. More of that when it happens.

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I've done a little more work on the main body.

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I have roughly designed the windows (the photo makes them look quite strange, trust me they will be fairly conventional), these are going to be made from custom decals, I am going to try an emulate blue/gold polarised glass. I came to the conclusion quite early  that trying to cut them out and putting in glass was not viable.

As an aside I'm also building an escape pod.
Here's progress so far.

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More when it happens......

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Re: Space Federation Scramble Ship FSS-3R ‘squid’
« Reply #38 on: November 30, 2019, 02:46:34 AM »
That's a great update and I like what you've done to dress up the arms.

Enjoying the ride,

Brian da Basher

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Re: Space Federation Scramble Ship FSS-3R ‘squid’
« Reply #39 on: November 30, 2019, 09:56:12 AM »
That's a great update and I like what you've done to dress up the arms...

Ditto  :smiley:  And that escape pod is sooo cute  :D
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Offline Robomog

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Re: Space Federation Scramble Ship FSS-3R ‘squid’
« Reply #40 on: December 06, 2019, 12:52:56 AM »
Hi all

A bit more progress on the squid. I have completed detailing the upper surfaces of the grab. Any further detail will be done with decals. The grab is ready for the paint shop. 

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The main body of the spaceship is not far behind, just a little bit of extra detail and then that will also be ready

The rescue pod is complete and ready for painting .

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The side boosters look a bit awry but I will straighten them later.


More when it happens.............

Mog
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Offline Brian da Basher

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Re: Space Federation Scramble Ship FSS-3R ‘squid’
« Reply #41 on: December 06, 2019, 06:19:58 AM »
I like the added details, Mog!

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Re: Space Federation Scramble Ship FSS-3R ‘squid’
« Reply #42 on: December 06, 2019, 07:37:45 AM »
Aren't pens a great source of greeblies!? ;D
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Offline Robomog

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Re: Space Federation Scramble Ship FSS-3R ‘squid’
« Reply #43 on: December 06, 2019, 02:59:11 PM »
Thanks Brian.

OW  absolutely!  There are pen parts all over these builds  ;) ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Space Federation Scramble Ship FSS-3R ‘squid’
« Reply #44 on: December 07, 2019, 05:13:41 AM »
Pens are an outstanding, under-appreciated source for parts if you ask me.

I found part of one that will make a very believable DC-10 type tail engine.

You've tapped into one of the deep secrets of whiffery, Mog.
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Re: Space Federation Scramble Ship FSS-3R ‘squid’
« Reply #45 on: December 08, 2019, 06:01:02 AM »
Lovely !

Enjoying this build.. getting my Mojo moving

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Re: Space Federation Scramble Ship FSS-3R ‘squid’
« Reply #46 on: December 10, 2019, 03:34:07 PM »
Thanks buzz,  glad to be of service  ;D

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Re: Space Federation Scramble Ship FSS-3R ‘squid’
« Reply #47 on: January 07, 2020, 07:06:05 PM »
Hi all

The first stages of painting are complete, the grab has its final coat and the main body has been primered, this has thrown up a few joint/excessive adhesive problems that need rectifying. The escape pod has also had its finishing coat.

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A small recommendation to the unwise (me!) If you are building something like this with moving parts either paint the finished article by hand or spray all the parts before assembly.  I was hoping that spray painting the construction would stiffen up the joints, in some cases it worked, but on a few joints it locked it solid so I had to drop Tamiya thinners on it to free it up. A small number or joints broke and needed re-glueing. One became seized for good and needed a new part manufactured.

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I'm probably not going to add much more in the way of greeblies, any further detail will be done with decals (which I have yet to manufacture)

Sorry elmayerle/tankmodeler  less real world more Flash Gordon  ;D

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Thanks for looking.......

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Offline tankmodeler

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Re: Space Federation Scramble Ship FSS-3R ‘squid’
« Reply #48 on: January 08, 2020, 12:57:50 AM »
Sorry elmayerle/tankmodeler  less real world more Flash Gordon  ;D
Hey, it's your model and your vision. I think it's looking just fine.  :D

Paul

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Re: Space Federation Scramble Ship FSS-3R ‘squid’
« Reply #49 on: January 08, 2020, 06:48:29 AM »
What a treat to see an update on this wonderful project Mog!

I like the different colors you chose. Should make things pop nicely.

Brian da Basher