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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #775 on: October 22, 2015, 12:25:51 PM »
Official announcement, by the French Government (today, April 2nd, 2017): “We deny completely, solemnly, that an ‘O-wing Mirage’ (absurd!) would have reached last week Mach 50 and disappeared in outer space. Flying saucers do not exist!


Well, the O-wing Mirage above was not explaining at all the "Flying Saucers" observation by so many people in the 1960s. So: extraterrestrial? This is not sure, because the TriplO-Mirage secret project may have been actually built: Mach 6 at low altitude, silently, seen as perfect O from the ground... a very different technology, yes.

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #776 on: October 24, 2015, 09:54:03 PM »
I think the AP-61 Asymmetric Widow was the first asymmetric night-fighter (the AP-61Z Twin-Widow came later):

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #777 on: October 27, 2015, 12:48:25 PM »
After the J.21R jet-twin-boomer, SAAB engineers proposed a twin-engined version based on P-38 Lightning parts: J.38 with 3 versions J.38D, V and G. None of them were built like that but it was the basis for later J.35 Draken, J.37 Viggen, J.39 Gripen.

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #778 on: October 30, 2015, 02:56:40 PM »
Mitsubishi Ki-46-III and Tsuin-46 (Twin-46):

The tremendous success of the Tsuin-46 is the true explanation of the Twin-Mustang order on the other side...

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #779 on: October 30, 2015, 10:44:46 PM »
Then came the Ki-46-IV and Ki-46-V twin-boomers:

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #780 on: October 31, 2015, 04:09:01 AM »
Interesting.
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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #781 on: October 31, 2015, 01:33:57 PM »
Thanks!
And you know... (this is a secret but I tell you): the Lightnings were jealous of the Ki-46-III beauty and tried to look like her (wearing P-38Ki-46, 47, 48 silhouettes):

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #782 on: November 04, 2015, 02:15:58 AM »
A Northrop P-61V with V-1710 engines indead of radials:

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #783 on: November 10, 2015, 01:14:12 PM »
I found a surprizing P-38 bronze statue at http://www.zazzle.fr/p-38+portefeuilles
Here is it with airplane "derivatives":

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #784 on: November 11, 2015, 02:43:55 AM »
Prone piloted?
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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #785 on: November 11, 2015, 12:46:40 PM »
A statue has no pilot, nor even flying ability... For the airplane derivatives, yes a prone pilot would have no problem while this is not the only possibility. For instance, a scaled up Lightning may have 2 seated pilots in a glazed nose like many helicopters and observers (Optica and others).

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #786 on: November 11, 2015, 03:59:01 PM »
The prone-pilot Lightnings were less heavy:

(Thanks for this idea!)

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #787 on: December 23, 2015, 07:33:38 PM »
With external tailplanes, the P-54X was less solid than the P-54A but, with a gun Inside the spinner for rear defense, it was safer in wartime flight.

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #788 on: December 24, 2015, 04:04:13 AM »
A Northrop P-61V with V-1710 engines indead of radials:


V1710s might be a bit underpowered for that large an aircraft, how about fitting a pair of Chryler IV2220s (as flown on the XP-47H) instead?  You'd have to make cooling system provisions and, likely, need to do some shifting for weight and balance purposes, but it would make a most purposeful-looking aircraft.

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #789 on: December 24, 2015, 12:54:42 PM »
So here is the improved L-61 (L for EL-mayerle... ;) ):

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #790 on: January 17, 2016, 02:20:35 AM »
A streamlined radial engine was tested on a Zero Zwilling in 1945, it seems:

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #791 on: January 17, 2016, 06:18:59 AM »
Hmmm, streamlined cowl on a Zero ... I like it!
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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #792 on: January 17, 2016, 06:34:16 AM »
As an alternate, maybe do a Zero with a ducted spinner similar to the original Fw190:

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #793 on: January 17, 2016, 02:45:51 PM »
Thanks Apophenia!
And dear GTXishi, as soon as you said that (July 4th 1945, right?), a triplex Zero was built to test all:

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #794 on: January 31, 2016, 01:20:02 AM »
In 1943, the Japanese captured an enemy P-38 (the Forked Devil) and tried its engine (A6M38 Zerning) or both engines (A6M38Kai), without success...

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #795 on: January 31, 2016, 06:20:25 PM »
So here is the improved L-61 (L for EL-mayerle... ;) ):



Really nice work, Tophe!

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #796 on: February 14, 2016, 12:37:20 AM »
Thanks!

And here is a Black-Widow with improvement: a little less solid but with a better rear post:

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #797 on: February 14, 2016, 02:14:40 AM »
Nice,,,  someone should build this in styrene !

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #798 on: February 14, 2016, 10:42:18 AM »
Thanks!

And here is a Black-Widow with improvement: a little less solid but with a better rear post:



Two engines on one side and fuselage/cockpit on the other? Is that possible?
Twice as many side gunners with a clear field of fire. Build an opposite handed version to fly on the other side of the bomber formation.
Tophe you are contagious! In a good way!

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #799 on: February 14, 2016, 01:27:48 PM »
Yes, good! Thanks! :-*

Now, the name of kerick stands (in fire letters!) in the History of asymmetric aircraft... see at the end of my
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