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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #125 on: June 04, 2012, 02:38:55 AM »
Even better
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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #126 on: June 04, 2012, 06:12:34 AM »
Love the F-16TL Tophe! That "preliminary step before the F-16TB (twin-boom)" looks like it might evolve into a vectoring-nozzle type  :)
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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #127 on: June 04, 2012, 11:35:56 AM »
Thank you my friends.
And here is the F-16Z Zwilling-Falcon:

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #128 on: June 05, 2012, 09:54:45 AM »
Very nice F-16Z! Is there also going to be twin-boomer with a single fuselage?
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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #129 on: June 05, 2012, 12:26:04 PM »
Thanks! ;)
So here is the F-16BP (BiPoutre for export to France):

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #130 on: June 05, 2012, 03:58:53 PM »
Thanks! ;)
So here is the F-16BP (BiPoutre for export to France):

  Interesting! and a improve on the idea of the F7u Cutlass!

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #131 on: June 05, 2012, 04:32:19 PM »
F-16BP is added to my favorites list.   :)

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #132 on: June 06, 2012, 03:05:31 AM »
Now that is attractive.
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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #133 on: June 06, 2012, 03:44:23 AM »
Oooo, F-16BP (BiPoutre) wasn't what I was expecting at all. Very nice Tophe!  :)
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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #134 on: June 06, 2012, 03:53:07 AM »
Impressive,I like F-16 BP !

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #135 on: June 06, 2012, 12:42:33 PM »
Thanks to all, for your liking these fast-made drawings, far worse than yours, so perfect.
Oooo, F-16BP (BiPoutre) wasn't what I was expecting at all.
Is this more what you expected?:

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #136 on: June 06, 2012, 02:58:10 PM »
 :)
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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #137 on: June 06, 2012, 04:03:39 PM »
Thanks to all, for your liking these fast-made drawings, far worse than yours, so perfect.


Its really the idea that counts here. As long as legible, its all that is needed.
Any sketch can always be expanded, colored or changed later.
Perfect is very subjective!  :D

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #138 on: June 06, 2012, 04:14:24 PM »
"Its really the idea that counts here. As long as legible, its all that is needed."
Russ says it right !

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #139 on: June 06, 2012, 04:21:52 PM »
Its really the idea that counts here. As long as legible, its all that is needed.
Any sketch can always be expanded, colored or changed later.
Perfect is very subjective!  :D
Totally agree !!!
By the way,I also like the last one!

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #140 on: June 07, 2012, 12:38:02 AM »
Thank you my friends! ;)
Well, my idea was not good either: there should not be a double-fin but a double half-area fin. So I have applied a square root of 2, divided by 2, scale (70%) on the fins:

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #141 on: June 07, 2012, 06:56:07 AM »
Is this more what you expected?:

Exactly! Although I do like your later version with the scaled-down fins. I can just see that version with vectoring exhaust!  :-*
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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #142 on: June 07, 2012, 12:02:17 PM »
AV-8 like? or X-35 like? or F-22 like? tell me and I will try.

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #143 on: June 07, 2012, 12:56:12 PM »
More like P.1216 I reckon.  F-35B rear nozzle with front vectored nozzles.

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #144 on: June 08, 2012, 06:31:27 AM »
I was thinking more of the 2D exhausts seen on experimental Flankers.
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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #145 on: June 08, 2012, 08:57:32 AM »
I was thinking more of the 2D exhausts seen on experimental Flankers.
Which were replaced by vectoring axi-symmetric nozzles as their technology progressed.  For that matter, an experimental F-16 flown with a similar vectoring nozzle under the AVEN (Axisymmetric Vectoring Exhuast Nozzle) program.

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #146 on: June 08, 2012, 11:20:31 AM »
Both the Su-37 and F-16 AVEN have vertor-thrust with no special aspect, so... I have comen back to the P.1216 aspect and to preliminary 2D vector exhaust:

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #147 on: June 09, 2012, 10:49:13 AM »
Very nice Tophe! And naming the file "r_Mirage5_v.JPG" will help with counter-espionage efforts  :)
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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #148 on: June 09, 2012, 11:36:31 AM »
I am glad I have succeded in matching your dream more or less, Apophenia.
 ;)
The name of the file is because the Corel draw source is a common file with the Mirage 5, page after page. This came from my "going away of 1940s' warbirds", just for these supersonic beauties, before going back maybe.

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #149 on: June 12, 2012, 11:46:01 AM »
And here is a Mustang family of wings: normal, high altitude, double, circular...