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Re: Bell UH-1 Iroquois/Huey et al
« Reply #50 on: March 26, 2017, 03:39:10 AM »
Agusta-Bell 205BG – Prototype fitted with Model 212 nose and two Gnome H 1200 turboshaft engines.

Could provide the basis for a British version.
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Re: Bell UH-1 Iroquois/Huey et al
« Reply #51 on: March 26, 2017, 03:43:26 AM »
Is there anything they haven't done to the Huey? ???


Well if you really want to get 'out there', there was the Bell Model 533 with aerodynamic fairings, a new tail surface to offload the tail rotor, a tilting rotor mast inside a large fairing structure, a swept wing, and either two Continental J69-T-29 turbojets wingtip-mounted or Pratt & Whitney JT12A-3 turbojets, and a modified rotor blade with swept tips.


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Re: Bell UH-1 Iroquois/Huey et al
« Reply #52 on: March 26, 2017, 03:50:09 AM »
I would love to see a kit (in 1/48 of course...or maybe 1/35 at a stretch) of the Model 214ST:




I have seen one up close in San Diego a few years back.
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Re: Bell UH-1 Iroquois/Huey et al
« Reply #53 on: March 26, 2017, 04:46:18 AM »
Agusta-Bell 205BG – Prototype fitted with Model 212 nose and two Gnome H 1200 turboshaft engines.

Could provide the basis for a British version.

Other re-engined Bell 205s that might share at least some commonality with other helicopters:

Top: Huey 800 (with LHTEC T800)

Bottom: Global Eagle (with Pratt & Whitney Canada PT6C)
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Re: Bell UH-1 Iroquois/Huey et al
« Reply #54 on: March 29, 2017, 06:14:29 AM »
Is there anything they haven't done to the Huey? ???

Piston engine? Retracts? Asymmetric blades? NOTAR/FANTAIL/Fenestron/Piasecki vectored thrust ducted propeller? UAV? AAMs? A hull? Coaxial rotors? Converted to a road vehicle? Hughes 500/Alouette-style glasshouse nose? Tiltrotor? Retractable weapons pylons a la Comanche? Ejection seats?
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Re: Bell UH-1 Iroquois/Huey et al
« Reply #55 on: March 29, 2017, 06:43:16 AM »
Well, the glasshouse nose was tried on the original Model 206 prototype that lost out to the Hughes 500.  I believe the AH-1W and -1Z can carry AAMs.

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Re: Bell UH-1 Iroquois/Huey et al
« Reply #56 on: March 29, 2017, 05:57:47 PM »
Is there anything they haven't done to the Huey? ???

Piston engine? Retracts? Asymmetric blades? NOTAR/FANTAIL/Fenestron/Piasecki vectored thrust ducted propeller? UAV? AAMs? A hull? Coaxial rotors? Converted to a road vehicle? Hughes 500/Alouette-style glasshouse nose? Tiltrotor? Retractable weapons pylons a la Comanche? Ejection seats?


So, not much. ;)
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Re: Bell UH-1 Iroquois/Huey et al
« Reply #57 on: March 30, 2017, 05:18:14 AM »
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Re: Bell UH-1 Iroquois/Huey et al
« Reply #58 on: March 30, 2017, 06:23:34 AM »
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Re: Bell UH-1 Iroquois/Huey et al
« Reply #59 on: May 07, 2017, 12:30:46 PM »
Is there anything they haven't done to the Huey? ???
Piston engine?

Something like the attached as a forerunner
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Re: Bell UH-1 Iroquois/Huey et al
« Reply #60 on: September 21, 2017, 10:34:22 PM »
Can someone identify what the...... thing ('don't even know if it's an ordnance or not)...... on the weapon rack of this Iranian AB212 is?

Thanks in advance.
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Re: Bell UH-1 Iroquois/Huey et al
« Reply #61 on: September 22, 2017, 01:27:05 AM »
I don't know but it looks like it might be a minigun of some sort, there appear to be multiple barrels protruding from the front.

It might be a Yakushev-Borzov YakB-12.7 machine gun


Or a local copy of the M134


Or, maybe, something Chinese.
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Re: Bell UH-1 Iroquois/Huey et al
« Reply #62 on: September 22, 2017, 02:36:49 AM »
Dunno, but it doesn't look like a gun of any sort, no barrels.
'Tis odd looking and from the shape it's difficult to guess as
to function.
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Re: Bell UH-1 Iroquois/Huey et al
« Reply #63 on: September 22, 2017, 02:45:37 AM »
Dunno, but it doesn't look like a gun of any sort, no barrels.
'Tis odd looking and from the shape it's difficult to guess as
to function.

I agree.  It almost looks like a baby BLU-82 but I doubt it.  The aircraft is a AB212ASW of their navy so perhaps it is some form of ASW weapon or similar.  Given it is camouflaged similar to the helicopter I would think that it is not disposable ordinance.  Maybe a towed array or similar?
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Re: Bell UH-1 Iroquois/Huey et al
« Reply #64 on: September 22, 2017, 03:49:16 AM »
if it was intended for ASW work, I'd think the object was a MAD "bomb" that could be trailed along behind the helicopter.  A different configuration from what those used by the USN, but equally suitable.

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Re: Bell UH-1 Iroquois/Huey et al
« Reply #65 on: September 22, 2017, 09:34:03 AM »
I've changed my mind, having expanded the image it's either a variant of the DShK or KPV heavy machine gun.

In the expanded image you can see the single barrel (I thought it was multiple) projecting from the front of the housing & an enclosed belt-feed/ejection-port shroud around the middle;

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Re: Bell UH-1 Iroquois/Huey et al
« Reply #66 on: September 22, 2017, 12:11:35 PM »
The aircraft is a AB212ASW of their navy so perhaps it is some form of ASW weapon or similar.

Actually......

...... has any IRIN AB212 ever been seen carrying ASW weapons?

I haven't and therefore do have a hard time thinking of IRIN AB212s as anything other than gunships/transports......
« Last Edit: September 22, 2017, 12:15:33 PM by dy031101 »
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Re: Bell UH-1 Iroquois/Huey et al
« Reply #67 on: July 21, 2018, 01:23:24 PM »
Another Huey re-engining programme.  This time with the GE T700.

(IIRC, though, only Huey II with uprated T53 had any success with military customers.)
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Re: Bell UH-1 Iroquois/Huey et al
« Reply #68 on: July 22, 2018, 05:03:02 PM »
Has no-one noticed the little grey alien staring out the cabin window? ???

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« Reply #69 on: July 22, 2018, 08:30:42 PM »
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Re: Bell UH-1 Iroquois/Huey et al
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Re: Bell UH-1 Iroquois/Huey et al
« Reply #71 on: November 04, 2019, 12:43:55 PM »
Apparently the Global Eagle project has since been further refined...... it's starting to look like a Bell 212 with the new engine cowling.
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Re: Bell UH-1 Iroquois/Huey et al
« Reply #72 on: March 15, 2021, 03:09:14 AM »
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Re: Bell UH-1 Iroquois/Huey et al
« Reply #73 on: March 16, 2021, 06:02:23 AM »
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Re: Bell UH-1 Iroquois/Huey et al
« Reply #74 on: August 19, 2022, 07:04:38 PM »
Via Twitter.

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