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Modelling => Completed GBs => Group and Themed Builds => MiG GB => Topic started by: LemonJello on October 01, 2018, 07:53:44 PM

Title: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: LemonJello on October 01, 2018, 07:53:44 PM
Post ideas and inspiration here for the benefit of the entire design bureau.

Единство через совместную борьбу
Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: LemonJello on October 02, 2018, 12:03:31 AM
Perhaps the most famous (???) of all designs from the Mikoyan Gurevich Design Bureau:

(https://theaviationist.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Firefox-Aviationist.png)
Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: LemonJello on October 02, 2018, 12:06:13 AM
Another design to inspire you:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/df/MiG-1.44-crossection.png/400px-MiG-1.44-crossection.png)
Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: LemonJello on October 02, 2018, 02:27:23 AM
Cool find on Google image search:

Creator calls it a MiG-41.

(https://jakartagreater.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Rusia-desain-MiG-41.jpg)
Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: kitnut617 on October 02, 2018, 08:46:17 AM
The idea behind this was to make the world's fastest piston engined aircraft
Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: LemonJello on October 03, 2018, 04:42:37 AM
MiG-105 "Spiral " Spaceplane:

(https://i.imgur.com/aNgTPgT.jpg)
Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 03, 2018, 11:17:26 AM
Which you can get a model kit of as well:  http://www.anigrand.com/AA2004_Mig-105.htm (http://www.anigrand.com/AA2004_Mig-105.htm)
Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: The Big Gimper on October 03, 2018, 10:00:28 PM
On the ugly scale, it is a 2/10.
Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: LemonJello on October 04, 2018, 01:55:32 AM
Here's some inspiration from a rival design bureau: Sukhoi Su-47 Berkut

(https://i.stack.imgur.com/Zhy9j.jpg)

Surely a MiG-29 could be the base for a FSW design?
Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: LemonJello on October 07, 2018, 03:16:37 AM
The MiG Group Build is huge! Maybe the biggest and greatest Group Build in the history of Group Builds.  But! It needs even more participation.  Check those stashes and get something entered.  Don't make Svetlana angry, you won't like her when she's angry!

Svetlana:
(https://img00.deviantart.net/45d4/i/2016/195/8/0/space_pinup_russia_by_feiyen17-da9zkp1.png)
Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 07, 2018, 01:22:00 PM
Don't make Svetlana angry, you won't like her when she's angry!


And certainly don't get her grandmother angry...

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/image.jpg1_zpsh2tkfguh.jpg)
Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: jcf on October 08, 2018, 09:47:54 AM
Tupolev designed and built torpedo boats and aerosans:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3b/Lancha_G-5.svg/1024px-Lancha_G-5.svg.png)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/58/N007_in_July_2013.jpg/1024px-N007_in_July_2013.jpg)

So what would MiG have done with the same remit?
Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: polygon on October 09, 2018, 02:09:14 PM
Cool find on Google image search:

Creator calls it a MiG-41.

(https://jakartagreater.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Rusia-desain-MiG-41.jpg)

Love the intake on this. Tempted to attempt this, creator even made a schematic view.
Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: LemonJello on October 10, 2018, 12:25:59 AM
Something from Mikoyan Gurevich that's perfect for those weekend trips to your Siberian Dacha: the MiG-8

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f7/Mikoyan-GurevichMiG-8.jpg)
Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: elmayerle on October 10, 2018, 02:03:53 AM
Something from Mikoyan Gurevich that's perfect for those weekend trips to your Siberian Dacha: the MiG-8

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f7/Mikoyan-GurevichMiG-8.jpg)
Imagine a turboprop version of that, perhaps even a stretched one.
Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: taiidantomcat on October 12, 2018, 04:32:57 AM
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/cnc/images/b/b1/RA3_Mig_Version_2_Concept_Art.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20141020025643)

(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/cnc/images/a/ac/RA3_Mig2sm.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20180620082854)

(https://hushkit.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/gd-mig-2000-22.jpg)

(https://hushkit.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/gd-mig-2000-1.jpg?w=487)
Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 12, 2018, 08:01:07 PM
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/91/Mig_1-44-2.png/800px-Mig_1-44-2.png)
Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: The Big Gimper on October 12, 2018, 08:18:25 PM
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/91/Mig_1-44-2.png/800px-Mig_1-44-2.png)

Mig 1.44. Big Sucka!!!
Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: LemonJello on October 15, 2018, 11:50:34 PM
Comrades! Participation so far has exceeded expectations. Alas! The Defense Ministry requires more from us.  So get out of the beet and potato fields and get back to the assembly lines! 

You don't want to find your name on the manifest for one of Ludmilla's "Special Train Tours" to the gulag, do you?

(https://i.imgur.com/jqX9zML.jpg)
Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 16, 2018, 02:14:01 AM
You don't want to find your name on the manifest for one of Ludmilla's "Special Train Tours" to the gulag, do you?

(https://i.imgur.com/jqX9zML.jpg)

Well, maybe we do...will Ludmilla be conducting the tours in person?
Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: taiidantomcat on October 23, 2018, 03:21:39 AM
(https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/hyperscale/imageproxy.php?url=http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z69/illomucca/mig23pd-1.jpg)

(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/cnc/images/f/f3/RA2_Mig.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/640?cb=20120202175037)

(http://i.imgur.com/TqFIUco.jpg)
Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: Frank3k on October 23, 2018, 05:22:50 AM
The Ye-152 was one ugly brute. It almost looks like scale-o-rama.
Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: finsrin on October 23, 2018, 08:37:33 AM
Does look scale-o-rama.
Get impression could have one SR-71 J58.
Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: elmayerle on October 23, 2018, 09:37:43 AM
The Ye-152 was one ugly brute. It almost looks like scale-o-rama.
That's a Ye-152M; it was labeled as a Ye-166 when it set world records and, IIRC, is in Monino with that Bort Number.

I'm thinking of a modified Ye-231 with the lift engines removed and replaced by fuel tankage and ammo storage for a Gsh-23 under the fuselage as on later MiG-21's as well as canards on the inlets similar to those on a Kfir (thinking of using unused ones for a Ye-152M built without them.
Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: ChernayaAkula on October 27, 2018, 09:43:06 AM
Some inspiration:

This was based on an idea by TaiidanTomcat. He wanted to Soviet-ize an F-16 and asked me for a profile. MiG-21-ish canopy, spine and brake chute housing, as well as MiG-23 ventral fold-away fin. Also two fins. Because... why not? Maybe something more MiG-21- or 23-ish for the fin wouldn't look out of place either.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1947/44849792794_14f1fa543a_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2bkdURy)
Vepr-B (https://flic.kr/p/2bkdURy) by Motschke (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151156765@N03/), on Flickr

MiG-21Sh (Shturmovik) ground-attack. MiG-27 nose. Side intakes inspired by Republic's RF-84F Thunderflash.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1916/30633394587_e920714fc4_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NEY9XD)
MiG-21Sh (https://flic.kr/p/NEY9XD) by Motschke (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151156765@N03/), on Flickr

Ye-8/3. Inspired by the Ultra Sabre (as if that wasn't obvious...).

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1937/44849793904_e5614f75d7_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2bkdVbG)
ye-8-107 (https://flic.kr/p/2bkdVbG) by Motschke (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151156765@N03/), on Flickr

MiG-25 with canards and mid-set wings. I had a top view of that with several styles of wings (delta, cranked delta, original Foxbat wings,...), but I'm afraid that one was lost "a few PCs back".

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1928/30633394047_42dff160d0_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/NEY9Nk)
mig25_cranked-delta+canards-side (https://flic.kr/p/NEY9Nk) by Motschke (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151156765@N03/), on Flickr
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1913/44849793444_7ae3fc04f2_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2bkdV3L)
mig25_cranked-delta+canards-frontal (https://flic.kr/p/2bkdV3L) by Motschke (https://www.flickr.com/photos/151156765@N03/), on Flickr


I'm thinking of a modified Ye-231 with the lift engines removed and replaced by fuel tankage and ammo storage for a Gsh-23 under the fuselage as on later MiG-21's as well as canards on the inlets similar to those on a Kfir (thinking of using unused ones for a Ye-152M built without them.

I like your thinking!  :smiley:
Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: elmayerle on October 28, 2018, 01:53:31 PM
One of your other works of art inspires me, though I won't have it for this build (applicable kits are buried for the moment).  The cross between a Ye-8 and a Mig-21Analog would make a suitable high-speed interceptor.  I was thinking of adding bits from a MiG-21-93 for extra effect on at least one build.
Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: taiidantomcat on October 30, 2018, 05:29:00 AM
Some inspiration:

This was based on an idea by TaiidanTomcat. He wanted to Soviet-ize an F-16 and asked me for a profile.

OMG was that really 6 years ago already?!  :o :o Great profiles. Someone on the old site had a "HIMAT" MiG-29 but I can't find it on my computer...

(http://)
Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: elmayerle on October 30, 2018, 09:08:15 AM
Odd though, a jet-powered MiG with a rather large engine, comparatively, in the rear with a NATO codename of "Fatass".  Perhaps a MiG-19 variant (or SM-12 variant) with a single R-11-300 from a MiG-21?
Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: taiidantomcat on October 30, 2018, 10:45:44 AM
(https://defence.pk/pdf/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fi47.tinypic.com%2Fakzfc7.jpg&hash=6118507dac1afa86cee928ac548a797f)
Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 31, 2018, 02:15:14 AM
Odd though, a jet-powered MiG with a rather large engine, comparatively, in the rear with a NATO codename of "Fatass".  Perhaps a MiG-19 variant (or SM-12 variant) with a single R-11-300 from a MiG-21?

 :smiley: ;D
Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 31, 2018, 02:25:07 AM
MiG 70.1 interceptor projected its civilian version (MiG 701P):

(http://www.f-16.net/forum/download/file.php?id=28511&sid=3a3547d29974bfd020ee847127d97e86&mode=view)
(http://www.f-16.net/forum/download/file.php?id=28512&sid=3a3547d29974bfd020ee847127d97e86&mode=view)
(http://www.f-16.net/forum/download/file.php?id=28513&sid=3a3547d29974bfd020ee847127d97e86&mode=view)

(http://www.f-16.net/forum/download/file.php?id=28510&sid=3a3547d29974bfd020ee847127d97e86&mode=view)
Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: taiidantomcat on October 31, 2018, 03:47:11 AM
The civilian version is pure Bond villian  :-*
Title: Re: Идеи и вдохновение (Ideas and Inspiration)
Post by: GTX_Admin on November 01, 2018, 12:58:40 AM
I'm thinking one could scratch build one by using parts from a Sukhoi Su-34.