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Offline Spey Phantom

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #25 on: July 06, 2013, 05:31:41 AM »
i have an image somewhere in an Air Forces Monthly issue from 2000 with an Alternative gripen configuration.
a more conventional look with an F-107 style intake.

if i get into my archive, maybe sunday, i can look it up and scan it in  8)
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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #26 on: July 06, 2013, 05:44:38 AM »
That would be this one I assume:



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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #27 on: July 06, 2013, 11:39:03 AM »
Oh wow  :-*
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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #28 on: July 06, 2013, 04:10:32 PM »
I always liked the original renderings of the Gripen before it entered service:
Not too far from reality...


(A JAS 39A just before retirement)

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #29 on: July 07, 2013, 02:24:25 AM »
Interesting...I didn't think they had put any operational ones in the classic splinter scheme.
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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #30 on: July 07, 2013, 02:29:18 AM »
I think they did that just for the retirement.
There was a thread on it ... somewhere ..., and my recollection is that it was done to celebrate the last days before retiring the older model.

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #31 on: July 07, 2013, 03:56:18 AM »


Another one with some better light  :)
« Last Edit: July 07, 2013, 03:57:59 AM by taiidantomcat »
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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #32 on: July 07, 2013, 09:33:41 AM »
The Gripen has long formed a pivotal part of my continuingly evolving alternate ADF.  It is pressed into a variety of roles across all three services being the primary mount of the RAAF flying reserve, the RAN FAA and Army Tactical Aviation.  It serves as the LIFT for all three services as well as a carrier trainer, is the mainstay of ARDU (Fanta Can) and the mount of the Roulettes.

It replaces a variety of types, some in service for decades, the oldest being the Folland Gnat to newest the Northrop F-20.  Others replaced include F-5A/B, F-5E/F, Jaguar, A-10, CAC CA-31 depending on the version of the alternate.

Lots of nice schemes are possible, the Insignia Blue and White RAN FAA trainer would look great.

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #33 on: July 07, 2013, 04:22:44 PM »
the Insignia Blue and White RAN FAA trainer would look great.

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #34 on: August 10, 2013, 06:07:09 AM »
Subtle:

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #35 on: September 14, 2013, 12:54:59 AM »
Seems like someone has been reading the forum:  Boeing And Saab To Propose Gripen For T-X
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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #36 on: September 14, 2013, 08:35:41 AM »
^ Most interesting!  :D If the Air Force can get some Gripen trainers, how about a couple more Gripens for the Navy and the Marines? Their F-5E/N/Fs could use a modern replacement. And, damn, would a Gripen look gorgeous in those colours!  :-*
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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #37 on: September 14, 2013, 03:48:50 PM »
Did you read the update on the second page?

Update: On Sept. 12, Lennart Sindahl, Saab´s execuctive vice president and head of Saab’s Business Area Aeronautics, sought to clarify the company’s position regarding a potential teaming arrangement with Boeing on the T-X program using a Gripen derivative.

“With the new development of the Gripen E version we expect it to remain in that position for many years to come. But a great fighter aircraft does not necessarily make a good trainer. We remain focused on the continued development of the Gripen E and the fighter will never be a trainer,” Sindahl says. “As we stated previously, Saab always keeps its doors open to new business opportunities and if any of those should be further realized, they would be announced at the appropriate time.”

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #38 on: September 20, 2013, 07:59:53 PM »
Did you read the update on the second page?

Update: On Sept. 12, Lennart Sindahl, Saab´s execuctive vice president and head of Saab’s Business Area Aeronautics, sought to clarify the company’s position regarding a potential teaming arrangement with Boeing on the T-X program using a Gripen derivative.

“With the new development of the Gripen E version we expect it to remain in that position for many years to come. But a great fighter aircraft does not necessarily make a good trainer. We remain focused on the continued development of the Gripen E and the fighter will never be a trainer,” Sindahl says. “As we stated previously, Saab always keeps its doors open to new business opportunities and if any of those should be further realized, they would be announced at the appropriate time.”

Iiiiffffffff.......that goes ahead I could see the Gripen (probably renamed Boeing Griffin) also replacing many ANG F-16 and F-15 aircraft, possibly also any combat types likely to be dropped due to sequestration, i.e A-10 in addition to the planned T-38 replacement.  A carrier based supersonic trainer that also goes on to replace some Hornets, oh of course it would be exported to Australia to replace the Hawk..... ;D

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #39 on: September 20, 2013, 09:00:44 PM »
Finland to replace the Hornet.
(and once the Hawks run out of hours, Finland gets Pilatus PC-21 as advanced trainer)

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #40 on: September 20, 2013, 09:53:54 PM »
USAF (or USArmy >:D) version to replace the A-10 fitted with a Oerlikon KCA cannon in an enlarged blister under the fuselage

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #41 on: September 25, 2013, 10:16:07 AM »
Random idea:  Nigerian Gripen in this scheme:

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #42 on: September 25, 2013, 12:48:55 PM »
Random idea:  Nigerian Gripen in this scheme:



That doesn't look too different from the Australian Army Aviation scheme....

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #43 on: February 02, 2014, 02:15:09 AM »
A mini EF-111/Prowler for small countries.
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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #44 on: February 02, 2014, 03:59:14 AM »
A mini EF-111/Prowler for small countries.

Use the two seat version and some of the systems from the Growler
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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #45 on: February 02, 2014, 09:16:00 AM »
Random idea:  Nigerian Gripen in this scheme:



That doesn't look too different from the Australian Army Aviation scheme....


Very similar.  Reduce the dark green in area and replace it with black and you'd have a reasonable match.  The other two colours are quite close (and that just might be a case of the screen image being out chromatically).

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #46 on: February 02, 2014, 11:51:29 AM »
Mmmm...... Australian Army Aviation has a fixed wing tactical strike and reconnaissance regiment?  Currently operating Jaguars but planning to transition to JAS39E and F by 2020 as the F-35B chosen by the RAN for the FAA was to expensive.

Just need to work out a back story on the forces creation and evolution from WWII onwards. ;)

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #47 on: September 10, 2014, 10:37:38 AM »
A pair I just stumbled across when reading about Saab's push to market the Gripen to Indonesia:


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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #48 on: May 03, 2015, 05:26:03 AM »
UCAV version anyone:

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Re: Saab JAS-39 Gripen
« Reply #49 on: September 27, 2015, 01:07:16 PM »


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