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Modelling => Completed GBs => Group and Themed Builds => Red Star Soviet GB => Topic started by: Acree on March 29, 2017, 02:45:59 AM

Title: Petlyakov-Myasishchev PeM-2
Post by: Acree on March 29, 2017, 02:45:59 AM
I am anxiously awaiting the rules for this GB, but I am pretty sure this idea will be within the rules. 

This will be an ultra-long range development of the Pe-2 featuring a trimotor layout and possibly an extended fuselage (although that will be a challenge with the Pe-2's smooth curves).  Anyway, looking forward to the GB start!
Title: Re: Petlyakov-Myasishchev PeM-2
Post by: Tophe on March 30, 2017, 01:41:23 AM
Pe-2 featuring a trimotor layout
Where will be the third engine? I hope it is a pusher, either in the tail or asymmetrically behind the port tractor engine (or else: starboard)... ;)
Title: Re: Petlyakov-Myasishchev PeM-2
Post by: Acree on March 30, 2017, 02:36:08 AM
Sorry, Tophe, I am planning a "boring" nose installation for the third engine. 
Title: Re: Petlyakov-Myasishchev PeM-2
Post by: LemonJello on March 31, 2017, 05:12:41 AM
Comrade Acree! Welcome! The Committee of State Sanctioned Modelling, Alternative History and Tractor Carburettor Production admires your modesty and revolutionary spirit! We look forward to seeing this superior design as we look to the future of our glorious collective!
Title: Re: Petlyakov-Myasishchev PeM-2
Post by: Acree on April 02, 2017, 01:17:38 PM
The starting point for my PeM-2 build is this HobbyBoss 1/72 Pe-2. I have another on the way to donate the third engine.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2837/33656658891_3ff3ccda58_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Th8b7g)PeM-2 (https://flic.kr/p/Th8b7g) by cacree (https://www.flickr.com/photos/144515244@N05/), on Flickr

I have commented favorably before on HobbyBoss Easy Assembly kits for WHIF fodder, but this one has some serious drawbacks.  The first one is the dorsal window/ gun position. It is molded in as part of the upper fuselage. (https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3816/32973120573_070089ba3c_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/SeHRYR)PeM-2-2 (https://flic.kr/p/SeHRYR) by cacree (https://www.flickr.com/photos/144515244@N05/), on Flickr
Secondly, the overall level of detail is lower than most such kits, especially in the engine nacelles. (https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2836/33401554900_d157e85e98_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/STzGzA)PeM-2-3 (https://flic.kr/p/STzGzA) by cacree (https://www.flickr.com/photos/144515244@N05/), on Flickr

I will try to overcome these in my PeM-2 build. 


Chuck
Title: Re: Petlyakov-Myasishchev PeM-2
Post by: Tophe on April 02, 2017, 03:20:38 PM
I have another on the way to donate the third engine
From 2 kits (2+2 engines), you could build 4+0: a push-pull and a glider, or 3+1: your PeM-2 + an asymmetric single-engined one...
Title: Re: Petlyakov-Myasishchev PeM-2
Post by: LemonJello on April 03, 2017, 07:27:09 AM
The Committee of State Sanctioned Modelling, Alternative History and Tractor Carburettor Production affixes the official Seal of Approval to another outstanding, progressive design!

(http://d2ydh70d4b5xgv.cloudfront.net/images/8/8/soviet-russian-original-poster-agricultural-productivity-communist-propaganda-99bf99052738ecfef630fe092f228945.jpg)
Title: Re: Petlyakov-Myasishchev PeM-2
Post by: Old Wombat on April 03, 2017, 07:37:03 PM
Obviously a fine technical effort of the Committee of State Sanctioned Modelling, Alternative History and Tractor Carburettor Production.

 ;)
Title: Re: Petlyakov-Myasishchev PeM-2
Post by: Acree on April 05, 2017, 01:00:19 AM
Well, the more I work on this, the more I bemoan the lack of detail and general plastic-blobbery of this kit.  But I soldier on. 
Here are the extended wingtips of the PeM-2 intended to give better altitude performance...
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2950/32987157684_0f74d5c271_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/SfXNJ1)PeM-2-4 (https://flic.kr/p/SfXNJ1) by cacree (https://www.flickr.com/photos/144515244@N05/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2919/32987157044_e7a90ba437_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/SfXNwY)PeM-2-4 (https://flic.kr/p/SfXNwY) by cacree (https://www.flickr.com/photos/144515244@N05/), on Flickr
I have pretty much given up on the hope of extending the fuselage.  The only logical place to put a plug (the point of maximum fuselage diameter) is at about the point of the wing main spar.  The way the kit is engineer, this would be a major, major undertaking of plastic surgery.  So, I think I'll pass. 
The rest of my time has been spent cutting away plastic - from the floor of the dorsal turret, the main landing gear wells, and the dorsal hatch.  Still need to do the tailwheel well. 

Chuck
Title: Re: Petlyakov-Myasishchev PeM-2
Post by: Frank3k on April 05, 2017, 02:03:50 AM
The wingtips look like Ju-188 wingtips.

The surface details on this kit really look blobby. Most of their Easy kits look far better. I noticed that they didn't open up the rear gunner's area or even provide glazing.
Title: Re: Petlyakov-Myasishchev PeM-2
Post by: Acree on April 07, 2017, 01:19:58 AM
My second kit (third engine donor) arrived in the mail today, looking like this: (https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3844/33034144174_91e6f9ca1c_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Sk7CaU)PeM2-6 (https://flic.kr/p/Sk7CaU) by cacree (https://www.flickr.com/photos/144515244@N05/), on Flickr
Despite the look, the only damage was a broken off horizontal stabilizer that will be easily repaired.  And the instructions are actually pierced through along with the box!  (https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2874/33836882416_b556a1b50b_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Ty3Shq)PeM2-6 (https://flic.kr/p/Ty3Shq) by cacree (https://www.flickr.com/photos/144515244@N05/), on Flickr

I have completed opening up all the wheel wells (including the tailwheel).  I have to scratch tailwheel doors, since none are provided in the kit.  I also figured out a ventral bombing station made from a B-10 pilot's canopy, though that is not installed yet.  And I have scratched up a third, central fin.  Finally, I have made a glare shield and instrument panel for the cockpit - none provided.  Photos of all that later...
Title: Re: Petlyakov-Myasishchev PeM-2
Post by: LemonJello on April 07, 2017, 01:25:32 AM
Comrade Acree! Here we see the steps the counter-revolutionaries in the west will take in order to derail your efforts! The Committee of State Sanctioned Modelling, Alternative History and Tractor Carburettor Production applauds your iron determination to push forward with this project in the face of adversity!

(http://weirdrussia.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/pinup7.jpg)
Title: Re: Petlyakov-Myasishchev PeM-2 Uodate
Post by: Acree on April 09, 2017, 01:35:40 PM
I am at that stage where I hesitate to do updates... but here goes....
Here is an over view of where I am at this point:  (https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2921/33795361231_005c1f830f_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Tuo4tV)PeM-2-7 (https://flic.kr/p/Tuo4tV) by cacree (https://www.flickr.com/photos/144515244@N05/), on Flickr

The central unit of the triple vertical tail is fixed (no rudder): (https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2881/33883726126_24705449a4_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/TCbXhA)PeM-2-7 (https://flic.kr/p/TCbXhA) by cacree (https://www.flickr.com/photos/144515244@N05/), on Flickr

Here is a closeup of the number two engine and its underslung radiator (you can also see the ventral bomb-aiming tub in the second shot): (https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2900/33081521654_5f67fbb7a7_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/SpirR1)PeM-2-7 (https://flic.kr/p/SpirR1) by cacree (https://www.flickr.com/photos/144515244@N05/), on Flickr(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2812/33540014050_a744c06e40_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/T6PkEj)PeM-2-7 (https://flic.kr/p/T6PkEj) by cacree (https://www.flickr.com/photos/144515244@N05/), on Flickr

Here is a closeup of the bomb-aiming tub:  (https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2845/33795360411_92a72f4c18_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Tuo4eM)PeM-2-7 (https://flic.kr/p/Tuo4eM) by cacree (https://www.flickr.com/photos/144515244@N05/), on Flickr

It really transforms the look of the Pe-2, I think  ;)   Hope you like it!
Title: Re: Petlyakov-Myasishchev PeM-2
Post by: Tophe on April 09, 2017, 01:58:06 PM
Looking good with the new nose! :-*
Title: Re: Petlyakov-Myasishchev PeM-2
Post by: Claymore on April 09, 2017, 05:20:52 PM
 :) 8) 8) :)
Title: Re: Petlyakov-Myasishchev PeM-2
Post by: LemonJello on April 10, 2017, 08:02:53 PM
I return from the mandated tour of the polystyrene mines and decal printing collectives to find you all have been hard at work, bolstering the defenses of nasha Rodina! (Наша родина)

Sasha, the Third Deputy Assistant Marshall for the Positive Recognition Sub-committee of The Committee of State Sanctioned Modelling, Alternative History and Tractor Carburettor Production, agrees:

(http://euromaidanpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/1483202559_a11.jpg)

Comrade Acree! Thank you for the glimpse into the superior design and production of aircraft suitable for the defense of our beloved Motherland! Forward to future of World Socialism!
Title: Re: Petlyakov-Myasishchev PeM-2
Post by: Brian da Basher on April 11, 2017, 06:12:29 AM
What a killer concept! That's some very sharp, clean work!

You make it look so easy, Mr Acree!

Brian da Basher
Title: Re: Petlyakov-Myasishchev PeM-2
Post by: Acree on April 14, 2017, 11:52:56 AM
The PeM-2 Troika is complete!  I'll post a more extensive backstory in the completed models section.  For now, here are photos of the final product.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2827/33981528426_2bacf079a5_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/TLQdv9)PeM-2-8 (https://flic.kr/p/TLQdv9) by cacree (https://www.flickr.com/photos/144515244@N05/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2946/33636980710_83ef73660c_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Tfojth)PeM-2-8 (https://flic.kr/p/Tfojth) by cacree (https://www.flickr.com/photos/144515244@N05/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2912/33636980930_17040a462c_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Tfojx5)PeM-2-8 (https://flic.kr/p/Tfojx5) by cacree (https://www.flickr.com/photos/144515244@N05/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2815/34022397855_8522463a02_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/TQrFyt)PeM-2-9 (https://flic.kr/p/TQrFyt) by cacree (https://www.flickr.com/photos/144515244@N05/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2924/33865220642_1464ade6c5_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/TAy7fw)PeM-2-8 (https://flic.kr/p/TAy7fw) by cacree (https://www.flickr.com/photos/144515244@N05/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2948/33179215664_07583427f2_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/SxW9Su)PeM-2-8 (https://flic.kr/p/SxW9Su) by cacree (https://www.flickr.com/photos/144515244@N05/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Petlyakov-Myasishchev PeM-2
Post by: Old Wombat on April 14, 2017, 03:48:46 PM
I feel the Need, the Need for Speed! ;D :)
Title: Re: Petlyakov-Myasishchev PeM-2
Post by: Brian da Basher on April 14, 2017, 04:53:31 PM
Wow did that ever finish up a treat!

I especially like your take on that famous Soviet camo which complements the build wonderfully!

Brian da Basher
Title: Re: Petlyakov-Myasishchev PeM-2
Post by: Tophe on April 15, 2017, 12:42:04 AM
Yes, congratulations for the final result! :-*
Title: Re: Petlyakov-Myasishchev PeM-2
Post by: LemonJello on April 15, 2017, 04:56:57 AM
Comrade Acree! This is a most glorious example of the strength of our workers' paradise!

We of The Committee of State Sanctioned Modelling, Alternative History and Tractor Carburettor Production salute you!

(http://www.sovietwarposters.com/photo/posters-1945/28-stalins-guard.jpg)
Title: Re: Petlyakov-Myasishchev PeM-2
Post by: The Big Gimper on April 15, 2017, 07:22:58 PM
Comrade Acree!

The committee members of the pro-revolutionary sub-section, uni-directional-flow rubber hoses and bi-nomial clamp division and raise their glasses of Stolichnaya not once, but three times! for your contribution to the eventual defeat of the capitalist running dogs forces.

Comrade Karl, Undersecretary for Underwear and Underground Umbrella Division
Title: Re: Petlyakov-Myasishchev PeM-2
Post by: Buzzbomb on April 24, 2017, 08:51:28 AM
I just like it :D
Title: Re: Petlyakov-Myasishchev PeM-2
Post by: LemonJello on May 02, 2017, 08:18:04 PM
Comrade Acreedavich! We of The Committee of State Sanctioned Modelling, Alternative History and Tractor Carburettor Production are in awe of the genius and dedication of your design bureau.  This design is sure to provide protection to our citizens throughout our great nation!

I see that your latest contribution has drawn the curiosity of the Subcommittee for Decal Solution Quality Control and Tire Pressure Regulating of The Committee of State Sanctioned Modelling, Alternative History and Tractor Carburettor Production:

(http://www.toxel.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/pinupsochi01.jpg)

Вперед в будущее!