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Modelling => Completed GBs => Group and Themed Builds => Allies '46 GB => Topic started by: Tophe on February 02, 2018, 01:42:19 PM

Title: 1946 Mustang & Lightning
Post by: Tophe on February 02, 2018, 01:42:19 PM
I am going to participate with drawings of a second generation of P-38/51/82.
My goal is not to celebrate a WW2 going on and on, this will be just modern Mustangs and Lightnings, and in some dream of buying them for 1946 urgency, this could be related to the subject somehow. :( :smiley:
Title: Re: 1946 Mustang & Lightning
Post by: Tophe on February 02, 2018, 01:54:08 PM
Here is a Twin-Jetstang P-82X, fast!
Title: Re: 1946 Mustang & Lightning
Post by: AXOR on February 02, 2018, 10:30:59 PM
Nice intro Cristophe  :smiley:
Title: Re: 1946 Mustang & Lightning
Post by: Robomog on February 03, 2018, 06:00:12 AM
This would look very good as a physical model, cracking design

Mog
>^-.-^<
Title: Re: 1946 Mustang & Lightning
Post by: finsrin on February 03, 2018, 06:21:06 AM
Sparks concept of X-3 zwilling fighter !
Title: Re: 1946 Mustang & Lightning
Post by: Tophe on February 03, 2018, 03:18:46 PM
Thanks a lot!

And I tell you a secret: the regular X-3 was a derivative of the P-51X (and P-82X-Half) of 1946:
Title: Re: 1946 Mustang & Lightning
Post by: Tophe on February 03, 2018, 05:50:58 PM
The Lockheed Lightn'jets of 1946 may have inspired also the later design of the X-3!
Title: Re: 1946 Mustang & Lightning
Post by: finsrin on February 03, 2018, 06:16:17 PM
Thinking NORAD twin X-3 interceptor had radar and its operator in one fuselage and pilot in other (probably left side).
Letz see:  Sized up from X-3 to have two J47 or J58 or other in each fuselage and room for radar and armament.
Lindberg 1/48 or Revell 1/65 kit can be basis for 1/72 build of larger NORAD supersonic interceptor version.  Maybe was RAF or RCAF not USAF.
Is inspirational Tophe. :smiley:
Title: Re: 1946 Mustang & Lightning
Post by: Tophe on February 03, 2018, 06:46:02 PM
Thanks!

And Lockheed "built" other versions (in My-dreams factory):
Title: Re: 1946 Mustang & Lightning
Post by: Tophe on February 03, 2018, 11:57:48 PM
On this planet, the years 1938 to 1946 were pacific simply, and the main factor for technological success were the yearly aircraft races at Rennö (in Norway). The jet engine was a crazy invention that remained in R&D labs, and piston engine was the best choice for racers unlimited category. Of course this was an international team race: English-speaking Allies against Rest-of-the-World (nicknamed Evil by US journalists)… See the Racer-51T in 1946 race:
Title: Re: 1946 Mustang & Lightning
Post by: Tophe on February 15, 2018, 01:19:17 AM
In 1946, the USAAF top general shouted: "to protect New York, I want Me-163s! American ones!"
This was the North Am proposal:
Title: Re: 1946 Mustang & Lightning
Post by: Tophe on February 15, 2018, 02:19:44 AM
Lockheed made also a proposal but, as expert in twin-engined fighters, added twin-rocket derivatives:
Title: Re: 1946 Mustang & Lightning
Post by: Brian da Basher on February 16, 2018, 05:03:36 AM
That tailless one is especially nice, mon ami!

All of your concepts are delightful and thought provoking, but that one really stands out to me.

Brian da Basher
Title: Re: 1946 Mustang & Lightning
Post by: Tophe on February 16, 2018, 12:51:13 PM
Thanks!
Of course, there was a twin-tailless too:
Title: Re: 1946 Mustang & Lightning
Post by: The Wave on February 20, 2018, 10:28:25 AM
Love the P-82X!
Title: Re: 1946 Mustang & Lightning
Post by: Tophe on March 06, 2018, 02:42:36 AM
Thanks!

And Robomog at http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=7735.0 (http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=7735.0) presented a great Mustang with jets Under the wings. With minimal changes, while I prefer to change into a twin-boom layout ??? :-\ :D
Title: Re: 1946 Mustang & Lightning
Post by: Robomog on March 06, 2018, 05:43:10 AM
Hey Tophe, thanks for the shout out,  this looks  good but It would need a donor aircraft or two for the booms (similar dilemma for the rocket B29) ???

Keep up the good work  ;)

Mog
>^-.-^<
Title: Re: 1946 Mustang & Lightning
Post by: Tophe on March 22, 2018, 01:21:51 AM
Thanks!
And... facing the He-162 in 1945, the P-51D seemed outdated, the P-51H seemed not better enough, so a P-5162 was designed, first flight in 1946:
Title: Re: 1946 Mustang & Lightning
Post by: Tophe on March 23, 2018, 12:43:31 PM
The P-5162 suffered from short range and poor safety, like the He-162, but the (twinboom :-* ) P-5163 cured that:
Title: Re: 1946 Mustang & Lightning
Post by: Tophe on March 23, 2018, 05:22:12 PM
And Robomog at [url]http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=7735.0[/url] ([url]http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=7735.0[/url]) presented a great Mustang with jets Under the wings. With minimal changes, while I prefer to
On drawing, changes are more easy: Meteor-like wing/engines, T-tail, short nose + 3-engined twin-seat long-range version:
Title: Re: 1946 Mustang & Lightning
Post by: Tophe on March 26, 2018, 02:19:42 AM
The regular Twin-Mustang with 3 turbojets was this one: