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FV431 Excalibur
« on: November 17, 2023, 11:42:00 PM »
As an entry into this GB, I am hoping to cobble together something a little different and is a direct response to a challenge laid down by our very own Admin Ninja and goaded on by Buzzbomb.

As the name suggests, this is going to be a variant of the classic FV430 series of vehicles, but the entire project almost failed at the start line when I discovered to my horror that the current availability of Tacom's FV432 model is rarer than Unicorn poop.  Fortunately, after several unsuccessful searches of the interwebby, I finally discovered a small retailer in the darkest depths of Englandshire (just outside Blackpool) who, so it would appear, specialises in Unicorn poop!! So, 4 days later, I am the proud owner of ...



So far so good.  In real life the FV431 was an unsuccessful cargo carrier (flatbed) version of the more common FV432 APC.  However, my FV431 will, all going well, be an air defence variant of the series which will mount 4 x Red Top (Excalibur) missiles - more details to follow in due course.

My next pre-build challenge was to see how difficult it would be to build the Red Top missiles - although, to be fair, having previously scratch built a couple of Bloodhounds, said missiles would probably have been relatively straight forward.  However, before I had given it a second thought, I stumbled upon a free set of downloadable files to 3D print guess what? - yup, a Red Top missile!!  Not being one to let my complete lack of a 3D printer and/or any associated skills get in the way of a good thing, I Facebooked a local grapevine page and asked if anyone could help out.  My faith in humanity has been well and truly restored and, for the price of a bottle of wine, I now have 4 x Red Top missiles in 1/35 scale - bargin!!  :))


(Proof copy left and centre - final on right - not the greatest quality print available but for something that fell into my lap, they will do!  :smiley:)

The Tacom model is going to need some major surgery including stretching by a 6th road wheel.  Easier if I had a second kit but that look on Mrs Claymore's face said it all... C:-) :o 

Me thinks the trusty razor saw, plastic card and even some casting will be required - joy!!!  ;)
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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2023, 12:23:38 AM »
Off to a good start on this project.  A definite plus in finding someone to assist in the 3D print effort and the end results look presentable once a good coat of paint has been applied to hide imperfections imparted by the printing process. 

The scarcity of the FV432 series kits is a damned shame.  I know Emil the Enabler at Skyway Models has at least one sitting on the shelf here in Renton, Washington as I saw it myself the last time I was at his shop. 

As far as the concept goes, I would consider it to be valid considering all of the other proposals that have been made for the M728 Chaparral in years past that included AGM-114 Hellfire among other things so a Redtop/Excalibur should not be out of place.   
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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2023, 12:46:54 AM »
 :smiley:
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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2023, 01:48:57 AM »
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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2023, 02:00:48 AM »
 ;D
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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2023, 03:37:31 PM »
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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2023, 12:43:06 AM »
This is going to be a great project!  The FV432 seems to be available (and cheap) in the US.

The missiles are probably in PLA and about all you can do is to go several rounds of PSR with primer. If they're in ABS, a light swipe with Acetone will help melt away some of the print lines, but PSR will still be needed.

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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2023, 02:49:40 AM »
This does sound neat-the Chaparral has been a favorite for ages, and the concept is "so why didn't they try this?

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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2023, 07:59:09 PM »
Thanks for the tips and encouragement! :smiley:
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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2023, 12:28:35 AM »
Great tip re the Acetone (guess the missiles are indeed printed in ABS)!  :smiley:

I’ll be needing some extra running gear (road wheels, suspension arms, track, etc) for my extended hull and have decided to try casting them.  Simple enough but sadly my supply of mould making rubber is slightly out of date - 8 years out of date to be precise! Still waiting for it to set…  :icon_meditation:
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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2023, 01:49:03 AM »
It is interesting to consider how this would compare with the MIM-72 Chaparral which was based upon the AIM-9D:

MIM-72 Chaparral   AIM-9D   Red Top
Length2.87 m   2.87 m   3.32 m
Diameter127 mm   127 mm   230 mm
Weight86 kg   88 kg   154 kg
Warhead11kg   11 kg   31 kg
SpeedMach 1.5   Mach 2.5+   Mach 3.2
Range5 km   18 km   12 km

Assuming that ground launching would reduce range and speed on the Red Top similarly to the AIM-9D to MIM-72, we would probably see something roughly the same class as the MIM-72 in terms of range (maybe a tad less), though probably faster and certainly with a bigger bang.  It would however be heavier to man handle etc.
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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2023, 03:37:17 AM »
Quite so!

In order to get over the ground launch delta-v limitations, I am envisaging the Excalibur missile being a slightly redesigned Red Top II with a slightly smaller warhead, updated electronics and, therefore, more space for a larger, two-stage Linnet III motor which will have an integral boost motor - not unlike the later Rapier missile.  Trade off might be a slight reduction in max speed (Mach 2.8-3.0?) and a reduction in range (8km?) but still very capable for a SHORAD system. 

Unlike the purely optical and later IR cued Chaparral, my system will have a surveillance and target acquisition radar (inc IFF) to cue the missile’s IR seeker - in other words a ground-base version of the aircraft system, giving a 24-hour operational capability.

More on the backstory later…
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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2023, 03:46:33 AM »
 :smiley:

Will you include an integral crane to assist with loading missiles?
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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2023, 03:51:09 AM »
the later Rapier missile. 

Hmmm...now I am thinking of a US Army tracked Rapier as a supplement for the MIM-72.
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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2023, 04:00:05 AM »
:smiley:

Will you include an integral crane to assist with loading missiles?

Yup, there is no getting away from the fact that the missiles are big.  Consequently, I see the launcher will coming with a dedicated support vehicle (think M548 but likely a flatbed FV431) which will carry additional missiles, a crane and the rest of the detachment crew for 24 ops.
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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2023, 04:10:42 AM »
Hmmm...now I am thinking of a US Army tracked Rapier as a supplement for the MIM-72.

Remember of course that Tracked Rapier did not enter service with the British Army until 1983. 

The FV431 Excalibur will effectively fill that same requirement from 1968-1985 - a time when the UK had no such capability.
« Last Edit: November 20, 2023, 05:06:56 AM by Claymore »
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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2023, 02:16:36 PM »
Pretty sure buzzbomb did a tracked Rapier didn't he? ???


Quick search &, yep, definitely tracked & definitely Rapiers:


https://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=10672.25
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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2023, 01:03:48 AM »
Well not an entire loss with the 8 years out of date rubber.  Although looking (and feeling) more like bubblegum, the mould has produced some useable additional parts - amazing what body filler can be used for! Will produce another set of wheels from this mould and use the new rubber to cast the extra lengths of track...   :smiley:

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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2023, 06:22:43 PM »
Win! :smiley: 8)
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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2023, 05:57:57 AM »
Oh, this is right in my zone... looking forward to this one.

Like you finding a Takom FV432 is difficult. I saw one while I was at SMW 2023, but space considerations to get it home and still have a partner meant I left it where it was. Cowardice.. yes, but prudent decision making ;)

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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2023, 07:00:51 AM »
Oh, this is right in my zone... looking forward to this one.

Like you finding a Takom FV432 is difficult. I saw one while I was at SMW 2023, but space considerations to get it home and still have a partner meant I left it where it was. Cowardice.. yes, but prudent decision making ;)
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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #21 on: November 22, 2023, 08:27:05 PM »
Oh, this is right in my zone... looking forward to this one.

Like you finding a Takom FV432 is difficult. I saw one while I was at SMW 2023, but space considerations to get it home and still have a partner meant I left it where it was. Cowardice.. yes, but prudent decision making ;)

 ;D ;D ;D
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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #22 on: November 27, 2023, 12:55:34 AM »
Front hull coming along. Rear hull extended and hacked around a bit - getting there!



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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #23 on: November 27, 2023, 01:31:52 AM »
Looking good
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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #24 on: November 27, 2023, 10:22:53 AM »
 :smiley: :smiley:
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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #25 on: November 27, 2023, 12:48:55 PM »
So far so good.  Like to see whatz next.

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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #26 on: December 01, 2023, 11:09:35 PM »
A little bit more...

Extra running gear and tracks in place and the rear prepped to accept the new flat bed.  Have also been doing some work on the launcher.  Finding all the bits I want is driving me round the twist - as a retired Air Defence Gunnery Instructor (IG), amongst other things, I have a small demon on my shoulder which insists I get this right (radar, IFF, hydraulics, computer, auxiliary power, fire control (mounted and dismounted), missile performance, missile resupply, etc, etc, etc...)  Turning into a complete blast from the past!!  :o :smiley:

Some WIP pics...







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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #27 on: December 02, 2023, 01:16:10 AM »
 :smiley:

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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #28 on: December 02, 2023, 02:16:54 AM »
:smiley:

We all have our demons.

 True enough-kinda wish mine were Succibi a little more often, but...  ;)

 The modified trackwork seems to be coming along beautifully. Looking forward to seeing the launcher.

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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #29 on: December 02, 2023, 03:50:45 PM »
Sort of looks like an Anglo-Australian version of this;




For which there is a conversion kit available;



Plus the "big" set, which comes with a small shipping container;

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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #30 on: December 03, 2023, 04:32:59 AM »
Oh ahh, sort of a similar feel to be sure!  :smiley:
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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #31 on: December 04, 2023, 06:15:49 AM »
This is a truly impressive transformation  :smiley:
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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #32 on: December 04, 2023, 11:34:35 PM »
Many thanks one and all!  :smiley:
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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #33 on: December 04, 2023, 11:37:24 PM »
...and a little bit more.  Starting to look like an actual vehicle... well, maybe... sort of...







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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #34 on: December 05, 2023, 01:54:47 AM »
Do like how build is coming together.  Complex, yet you make it look straight forward.  Hull extension and rear platform gunna pass for RW.  :smiley:

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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #35 on: December 05, 2023, 07:08:50 AM »
Yes... !!!

This is really nicely done and the next stage with the missiles is looking promising

 This platform could be multi-role as well with modular semi self contained weapon mounts

Liking it a lot

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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #36 on: December 09, 2023, 12:49:59 AM »
So, here we are with the build essentially complete - may add a supporting figure and a couple of bits of ancillary equipment for dismounted crew ops...







...and on to the bit I really like - the undercoat spray - which helps to pull everything together.  The FV431 Excalibur in travelling and firing configurations:















Paint job next!  :))

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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #37 on: December 09, 2023, 01:20:27 AM »
Looking good
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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #38 on: December 09, 2023, 03:55:46 AM »
Looking Excellent  :smiley:

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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #39 on: December 09, 2023, 08:03:06 AM »
Oh, Yeah! That's looking the business! 8) :smiley:
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« Reply #40 on: December 09, 2023, 08:41:03 AM »
Damn, that looks good!  :smiley: :smiley:
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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #41 on: December 09, 2023, 05:26:06 PM »
 Many thanks one and all.   :smiley:
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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #42 on: December 10, 2023, 02:27:41 AM »
Wow - that's coming along great! Quite the departure from the original kit.

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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #43 on: December 10, 2023, 03:31:13 AM »
Wow - that's coming along great! Quite the departure from the original kit.

 :smiley: :smiley:

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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #44 on: December 15, 2023, 09:33:07 PM »
How have I not been following this?

Awesome. Superb. Astonishing.

With the primer, you'd never know it wasn't an OOB kit.

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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #45 on: December 16, 2023, 01:01:45 AM »
You are most kind.  :))
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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #46 on: January 03, 2024, 06:03:09 PM »
For an IR guided missile, I think you need to change the direction of the exhaust pipe.  It needs to point downwards rather than up.  Otherwise it will interfere with the missile's ability to acquire a target.  Otherwise it looks rather good. ;D

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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #47 on: January 04, 2024, 03:50:02 AM »
For an IR guided missile, I think you need to change the direction of the exhaust pipe.  It needs to point downwards rather than up.  Otherwise it will interfere with the missile's ability to acquire a target.  Otherwise it looks rather good. ;D

Much like the US Army’s M48 Chaparral, the FV431 Excalibur runs from an auxiliary generator (mounted in the rear under the main deck - see rear access doors) once in its operational location.  Given the set up, test and adjustment time to bring the system into action, the vehicle’s main engine exhaust would already be cool/cold - just like the M48 Chaparral. So no real problem.
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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #48 on: January 04, 2024, 10:44:18 AM »
Good answer but it limits the setup time quite a bit.  The Red Top was more sensitive than an AIM-9D which was used on a Chaparral.  So the exhaust would still interfere with it's sensing it's target for quite some time after the main engine was switched off. ;)

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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #49 on: January 06, 2024, 12:19:21 AM »
I’ve tried to convince myself otherwise, but you make a good point and, therefore, something must be done - the solution is in hand!   :smiley:
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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #50 on: January 06, 2024, 02:01:19 PM »
I’ve tried to convince myself otherwise, but you make a good point and, therefore, something must be done - the solution is in hand!   :smiley:

Good.  I think the easiest solution would be to admit that the vehicle is unlikely to swim and turn the exhaust pipe downwards.  Alternatively, you could always reverse the muffler and have it exhaust forwards and still have it point downwards,   Either way,  you just have to admit whatever amphibious hope it might have enjoyed are behind it.   ;) 

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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #51 on: January 08, 2024, 07:48:23 AM »
As the saying goes, “There are two hopes of the FV431 Excalibur being amphibious and one of those used to play golf!”  ;D
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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #52 on: January 15, 2024, 10:35:11 PM »
Well, here we are after the festive hiatus, and I am calling it complete.

FV431 Excalibur:

By the early 1960s, in the face of evolving aircraft design and capabilities, it was becoming all too evident that western ground-based air defence, and Britain’s in particular, was not all that it could be. Whilst the British Army’s wide-area air defence (AD) coverage and the RAF’s long-range AD cover were effectively provided by the Thunderbird surface-to-air missile (SAM) system and the Bloodhound SAM system respectively, the provision of short-range air defence (SHORAD) was limited to the aging Bofors 40/L70 gun system. A development of the WW2 era 40/L60 anti-aircraft gun, the 40/L70, although issued with an effective proximity fused round, was still operated optically using the Mk 1 eyeball.

The British Ministry of Defence (MoD), realising that a modern missile system would be required to augment and eventually replace their less than efficient gun systems, started to work on a potential solution. The end result of these deliberations would eventually manifest itself in the modular, compact and highly effective towed Rapier missile system which started to enter service in 1971 and which would completely replace the 40/L70 by 1977. However, this did not answer the immediate SHORAD capability shortfall and so it was that two interim designs were also considered for development and fielding.

Short Brothers of Belfast proposed Tigercat, a land-based development of their Seacat system - itself a surface-to-air development of the Malkara anti-tank missile. As a subsonic system, Tigercat was far from ideal, and the Army were not impressed but the RAF persevered and eventually equipped a single RAF Regt squadron in 1967.

On the other hand, Hawker Siddeley Dynamics, with the backing of the British Army, proposed something altogether more suited to manoeuvre operations and in keeping with what their US counterparts were developing under the Chaparral programme. Like its US cousin, Excalibur, as the system was to be called, would be a based on an infra-red (IR) heat seeking missile. However, rather than adopting the US Sidewinder, Excalibur would use a variant of the company’s own Red Top missile. The Mach 3.2 Red Top was already in service with the RAF and carried a considerable punch in its 31 Kg (68.3 lbs) warhead. However, as an air-launched missile, the standard air-to-air Red Top was not optimised for static ground launch operations and, consequently, some significant internal redesign would be required. Specifically, the opportunity was taken to overhaul and update the missile’s electronics pack and the warhead was slightly reduced in size to 22.7 Kg (50 lbs). The space saved by both these initiatives allowed the Linnet rocket motor to be enlarged to include an integral boost motor to overcome the initial launch inertia. The cumulative effect of all these alterations was a missile that could be successfully ground launched but with a reduction in max speed to Mach 2.8 and a reduction in max range from 12 Km to 7.8 Km – still a very impressive SHORAD capability.

Excalibur was mounted on the fully tracked FV431 carrier – an extended, flatbed variant of the FV430 series of vehicles. The FV431 carried a two-man crew (driver/radio operator and commander/engagement controller (EC)), an auxiliary generator provided the necessary power to run the system and a cryonic air cooler provided the missile seekers with the necessary cooling. The launcher was capable of a full 360 degrees traverse and carried 4 ready to fire missiles on its launch rails. A 12 Km range, F-band, pulse-doppler surveillance radar (with integral D-band IFF) mounted between the launch rails detected and prioritise targets. The launcher would then slew in azimuth and the beams elevate to cue the missile’s IR seeker onto the target. Target lock was indicated by a distinctive tone in the EC’s headset. The 2-man crew could fight the system from inside the vehicle or, if in location for extended periods of time, could dismount and operate the system remotely.

At 154 Kg (350 lbs), the Red Top was not a small missile and there was no room on the launch vehicle for reloads to be carried. This necessitated a dedicated FV431 Missile Support Vehicle (MSV) which carried an additional 8 missiles and an Atlas 63.M7 hydraulic crane to carry out the reloading function. The two additional MSV crew members allowed for full 24-hour operations of the Excalibur system.

The FV431 Excalibur system entered service in 1968 and remained as the British Army’s primary manoeuvre SHORAD capability until replaced by Tracked Rapier in 1980. Excalibur was exported to Saudi Arabia (also a Red Top user) where it remained in service until 1988.

The model depicts ‘Anaconda’, a fire unit of 11 Battery, 22 Air Defence Regiment Royal Artillery, 1st Artillery Brigade, I Br Corps and is made from parts of a Takom FV432, AFV Club M730A1 Chaparral, Cults 3D print Red Top missiles, several parts cast in plastic padding and, of course, a whole lot of plastic card!

Travelling configuration...







Closed down firing configuration...







Dismounted firing configuration (the crew would be remoted 20-25m from the vehicle)...

The selector engagement zone (SEZ) of which there were two (one inside the vehicle and one which could be remoted) housed the master safe/arm key, provided basic radar azimuth and missile lock indications, allowed the EC to set blind arcs, counter ECM and initiate engagements.

The strange looking piece of kit on the tripod is a very simple but elegant bit of kit called – not very imaginatively – the pointing stick. This allowed the EC during periods of emission control (EMCOM) when the surveillance radar was switched off to cue the system by visually sighting on a target – when the pointing stick trigger was pulled the launcher would be slaved in elevation and azimuth allowing the missile’s IR seeker to search for the target.






« Last Edit: January 16, 2024, 12:52:52 AM by Claymore »
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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #53 on: January 16, 2024, 01:49:20 AM »
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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #54 on: January 16, 2024, 10:45:40 AM »
Looks good.  I see you fixed the exhaust problem.   ;)

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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #55 on: January 16, 2024, 05:09:58 PM »
Looks good.  I see you fixed the exhaust problem.   ;)

Many thanks and yes, better safe than sorry!  :smiley:
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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #56 on: January 16, 2024, 05:26:24 PM »
Appears RW OOB to me.  :smiley:
Would not know different except for following build pictures.  Looking fine.

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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #57 on: January 16, 2024, 07:17:04 PM »
Appears RW OOB to me.  :smiley:
Would not know different except for following build pictures.  Looking fine.

Praise indeed! Many thanks.  :smiley:
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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #58 on: January 16, 2024, 10:18:00 PM »
"Pointing stick"! ;D ;D Love it! :smiley:

Top notch build, too! Very, very nice! 8)
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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #59 on: January 17, 2024, 01:42:45 AM »
"Pointing stick"! ;D ;D Love it! :smiley:

Top notch build, too! Very, very nice! 8)

Thanks mate!

Believe it or not, the Pointing Stick was an actual thing with the original Rapier system.  It later became the Manual Acquisition Facility (MAF) with the very different Rapier FSC system but its job was just the same.  :smiley:
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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #60 on: January 17, 2024, 09:39:45 AM »
As elsewhere... this is just an extraordinary build.

So much RW as mentioned previously,  to eventually make it onto some Military group think discussion site as an actual thing.

"Pointing stick"! ;D ;D Love it! :smiley:

Same here.. very to the point of functionality

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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #61 on: January 17, 2024, 07:15:48 PM »
As elsewhere... this is just an extraordinary build.

So much RW as mentioned previously,  to eventually make it onto some Military group think discussion site as an actual thing.


You are most kind!  :smiley:
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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #62 on: January 25, 2024, 04:21:23 PM »
Excellent build, and so believable !   :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:


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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #63 on: January 26, 2024, 04:53:53 AM »
Thanks mate!  :smiley:
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Re: FV431 Excalibur
« Reply #64 on: March 15, 2024, 09:36:41 AM »
Floating this to the top for max visibility.  Congrats, Claymore!