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Title: Messerschmitt Me-262 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 17, 2014, 05:11:06 AM
A thread dedicated to your Messerschmitt Me-262 Ideas and Inspiration:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/me-26216_zps6791daa8.jpg)
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-262 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Volkodav on May 17, 2014, 01:48:57 PM
Could have actually happened too with, Israel grabbed anything they could back then.  As an aside, has anyone ever seen any photos of Israeli Beaufighters I know they existed but never seen pics?
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-262 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 18, 2014, 05:05:46 AM
Another Israeli one:

(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c339/fabe27/israel.jpg)
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-262 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 18, 2014, 05:06:20 AM
One from Richard:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/Gekko_1/Kriegsmarine-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-262 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 18, 2014, 05:06:58 AM
Some I did a while ago: 

Turboprop version of the Me P.1099 (which was itself a derivative of the Me-262 - it utilised the wings and tail of the Me 262).  The plan is that this is would be a carrier based bomber, somewhat similar to the North American AJ Savage:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/BN262TP2-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-262 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 18, 2014, 05:07:20 AM
Another idea is for this turboprop Me-262 ground attack aircraft.  Maybe as the ultimate Ju-87 replacement:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/TP262GA.jpg)

The turboprops giving longer endurance in the ground attack role with the added benefit of tail guns.  Note also the attached RATO for added boost with a large bomb load.
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-262 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 18, 2014, 05:07:40 AM
Dedicated prone piloted Me-262:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/P262.jpg)
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-262 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 18, 2014, 05:08:01 AM
Turboprop version giving better forward visibility:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/N262TP.jpg)
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-262 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 18, 2014, 05:08:24 AM
Ejection seat testbed:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/E262.jpg)
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-262 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 18, 2014, 05:08:54 AM
Another possible turboprop Ju-87 replacement - this time in the Anti-tank role:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/262BG2.jpg)
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-262 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 18, 2014, 05:09:14 AM
Air-to-Air Refuelling trial version:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/Me262RT.jpg)
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-262 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 18, 2014, 05:09:59 AM
Single engined variant:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/sg262a.jpg)
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-262 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 18, 2014, 05:11:17 AM
Some real proposals:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/HGIIIV.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/262TBs.jpg)
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-262 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 18, 2014, 05:11:52 AM
FSW variant in Mistel format:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/287mist262r.jpg)
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-262 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 18, 2014, 05:12:20 AM
Maybe after a few years, the Luftwaffe wanted a fast ground attack aircraft (hence the HGIII basis), but with heavier armament (6 cannon in nose).  Maybe even the old WGr 21. rocket finds a use in the ground attack role?  Whatever, the reason, this is the result:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/HGIIIVTG.jpg)
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-262 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 18, 2014, 05:13:03 AM
Really stretching things now - MPA variant:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/MP262TP2-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-262 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 18, 2014, 05:13:34 AM
Unmanned:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/U262.jpg)
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-262 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 18, 2014, 05:13:53 AM
Maybe a single engined variant with a V-tail:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/sg262av.jpg)
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-262 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 18, 2014, 05:14:37 AM
More real proposals for different engined variants:

BMW003 variant:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/262003.jpg)

HeS 001A variant:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/hs111.jpg)
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-262 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 18, 2014, 05:15:20 AM
What if the jets never quite made it - could the Me-262 have been put into service with piston engines?

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/262p.jpg)
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-262 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 18, 2014, 05:15:43 AM
Improved single seater and a nightfighter:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/262p2p3-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-262 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 18, 2014, 05:16:14 AM
And continuing the current theme:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/262pn.jpg)
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-262 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 18, 2014, 05:16:35 AM
Of course DB605s weren't the only engines trialed:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/262p4.jpg)
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-262 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 18, 2014, 05:16:55 AM
And lets not forget the high speed torpedo bomber:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/262tbp.jpg)
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-262 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 18, 2014, 05:17:16 AM
Yet another engine trial:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/262rp.jpg)
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-262 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 18, 2014, 05:17:45 AM
Another variation on the theme - what if the gas turbines still weren't quite there and the Luftwaffe went the route the Italians and Russians (and probably a few others as well) tried, that of thermojets:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/262p3TC-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-262 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 18, 2014, 05:18:16 AM
More:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/More%20Creations/262advanced.jpg)
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-262 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 18, 2014, 05:18:33 AM
A different approach to the Me 262 A-2a/U2:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/262Bomalt.jpg)
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-262 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: elmayerle on May 18, 2014, 10:10:50 AM
Quote from: GTX_Admin on May 18, 2014, 05:06:58 AM
Some I did a while ago: 

Turboprop version of the Me P.1099 (which was itself a derivative of the Me-262 - it utilised the wings and tail of the Me 262).  The plan is that this is would be a carrier based bomber, somewhat similar to the North American AJ Savage:

([url]http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/BN262TP2-1.jpg[/url])

That one has occurred to me, too; including an AEW version with the rotary radar dome of the AR-234P on the upper fuselage.
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-262 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Volkodav on May 18, 2014, 04:05:21 PM
I like the MPA version
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-262 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: The Big Gimper on May 07, 2018, 01:09:26 AM
Taken at Weimar Germany 12 May 45. American soldiers inspect Me 262 A-2a/U2 (W.Nr. 110 555)

(https://scontent.fxds1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/31945024_1748743825181884_9099334772915699712_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeEJivbuKdRIVGdpQ3TMsIt8Xjfr9N7vKdnOcAUoZ5NSkGIaIO397X90BEAM49q6kTGjrEMVcfjNrdWsdPgD41lyuIZ3-ONWu_L-DEF_wkwKtQ&oh=829c66addabfbba39d47a791a4cf9fea&oe=5B8E76DE)

The bomber second prototype (W.Nr. 110 555) was completed in January 1945 and featured a modified bombardier’s compartment – the Lotfekanzel II. The aircraft also received alternative designation Me 262 V11. The prototype first flew in February 1945 and by the end of March had completed 16 test sorties. The aircraft was lost on March 30, 1945 when it crashed during a forced landing attempt.
Colour by RJM
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-262 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 07, 2018, 03:01:18 AM
Re-colourised version of this:

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/683/22307966539_ea6997f2b6_b.jpg)

Here's another view, this time with the canopy attached:

(https://www.worldwarphotos.info/wp-content/gallery/germany/aircrafts/messerschmitt-me262/Me_262A-2a_V555_110555.jpg)

Note that this was a trial Me262 Mistel guidance aircraft - you can see more information here (http://www.48specialmodels.com/e-produkte/e-48-m4.html)
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-262 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: The Big Gimper on May 07, 2018, 05:14:37 AM
Actually de-colourised.   ;D
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-262 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: ysi_maniac on May 07, 2018, 08:06:07 PM
Quote from: GTX_Admin on May 18, 2014, 05:15:20 AM
What if the jets never quite made it - could the Me-262 have been put into service with piston engines?

([url]http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/262p.jpg[/url])


I think blade tips will be damaged somehow. ;) 8) :o
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-262 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 08, 2018, 01:02:31 AM
Bah...technicality ;D
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-262 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Kelmola on May 08, 2018, 03:36:18 AM
Quote from: ysi_maniac on May 07, 2018, 08:06:07 PM
I think blade tips will be damaged somehow. ;) 8) :o
Well, it isn't that much more insane than the XP-72 Ultrabolt, which had to use three-point take-off and landing so that the propeller would not hit the ground...  ;D
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-262 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: The Wave on May 09, 2018, 03:58:38 AM
How about a Me-262 floatplane?
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-262 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Acree on May 09, 2018, 05:10:26 AM
Quote from: BlastWave on May 09, 2018, 03:58:38 AM
How about a Me-262 floatplane?
Pretty sure I've seen one somewhere, with the engines moved to the top of the wings?
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-262 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 10, 2018, 01:03:17 AM
(http://www.ipms-gateway.com/articles/WhatIf262/wasser01.jpg)(http://www.ipms-gateway.com/articles/WhatIf262/wasser04.jpg)

More here (http://www.ipms-gateway.com/articles/WhatIf262/WhatIf262.htm)
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-262 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on April 23, 2020, 03:37:09 AM
Random inspiration shot:

(https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/attachments/me-jpg.367460/)
Title: Re: Messerschmitt Me-262 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 06, 2022, 01:31:52 AM
(https://combatace.com/applications/core/interface/imageproxy/imageproxy.php?img=https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51921775705_527915e36b_b.jpg&key=598c1a21873c942d6153b4fbf44ba8c5a0a130e95612bee7ca2ad9025f9a87e4)