Author Topic: Profiling by JP Vieira - New profiles 2017 (Read 455882 times)

elmayerle · « **Reply #825 on:** December 15, 2012, 12:32:06 PM »

Quote from: JP Vieira on December 15, 2012, 02:32:19 AM

And what-if Aeronavale choose the Phantom instead of the Crusader...?

That's attractive, though I don't know that the gun-nosed Phantom was ever carrier-qualified; it'll do for a whif. I'm thinking the outboard wing hardpoints would look good carrying the combined fuel tank/bomb racks used by Mirage IIIs and Vs or, for when you need to really pound a specific ground target, the combined rocket pods/fuel tanks that MATRA makes (Mirage IIIs and export Lightnings use them) combined with standard MATRA pods on TERs on the inner wing hardpoints.

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #826 on:** December 15, 2012, 02:30:30 PM »

Maybe reengined with ATARs?

JP Vieira · « **Reply #827 on:** December 15, 2012, 07:26:50 PM »

Thanks for the comments :)

JP Vieira · « **Reply #828 on:** December 15, 2012, 07:28:08 PM »

And here is another one with some of your suggestions; thank you

That rocket pod/fuel tank has always amazed me and this was a great excuse to do one; thank you
And it has new engines also; thank you

elmayerle · « **Reply #829 on:** December 16, 2012, 02:27:02 AM »

Quote from: JP Vieira on December 15, 2012, 07:28:08 PM

And here is another one with some of your suggestions; thank you

That rocket pod/fuel tank has always amazed me and this was a great excuse to do one; thank you
And it has new engines also; thank you

Now that looks definitely wicked. A pair of Atar 09Ks would do nicely in place of the J79s and certainly look the part here. It makes you wonder about an alternate British Phantom with upgraded Avon 300s (Avon 400s?) replacing the J79s).

arc3371 · « **Reply #830 on:** December 16, 2012, 04:22:18 AM »

When you mentioned Phantom & Crusader, for some reason I pictured a Templar F-4....

apophenia · « **Reply #831 on:** December 16, 2012, 12:37:19 PM »

Oooo, that Aeronavale Phantom look so right!

JP Vieira · « **Reply #832 on:** December 18, 2012, 02:53:43 AM »

Thank you for your comments

JP Vieira · « **Reply #833 on:** December 18, 2012, 03:20:10 AM »

Hello
The Hail was perhaps the most radical atemp by Hawker to modernise the Hurricane.
If featured an all-metal fuselage, with a new engine and canopy arrangement.
Despiste some promising improvements over the Hurricane it remained only as a prototype.

apophenia · « **Reply #834 on:** December 18, 2012, 03:21:20 AM »

Love that new canopy -- very sleek!

upnorth · « **Reply #835 on:** December 18, 2012, 03:27:08 AM »

That Aeronavale Phantom looks great!

I wonder it there would be clearance under a Phantom for a pair of AS.30 missiles

A load of Matra Beluga cluster bombs or Durandal anti runway bombs would also look great on it.

If we're staying with it in place of the Crusader as air to air primarily; Matra R.530s would look mean it there was ground clearance for them.

Logan Hartke · « **Reply #836 on:** December 18, 2012, 03:39:34 AM »

Yep, that Hail is very pretty. Always loved the Hurricane.

Cheers,

Logan

JP Vieira · « **Reply #837 on:** December 18, 2012, 04:13:13 AM »

Thanks for the comments :)

JP Vieira · « **Reply #838 on:** December 18, 2012, 04:17:06 AM »

Quote from: upnorth on December 18, 2012, 03:27:08 AM

That Aeronavale Phantom looks great!
(...)
If we're staying with it in place of the Crusader as air to air primarily; Matra R.530s would look mean it there was ground clearance for them.

Yes, initially they did; however soon they started using the Matra Mage, a radar guided version of the Magic

sotoolslinger · « **Reply #839 on:** December 18, 2012, 05:03:22 AM »

Love the Hail JP

:)

Doom! · « **Reply #840 on:** December 18, 2012, 11:24:50 AM »

The Hail is a real beauty! :)

Tophe · « **Reply #841 on:** December 20, 2012, 01:30:18 AM »

I like your Hail also

JP Vieira · « **Reply #842 on:** December 20, 2012, 02:29:15 AM »

Thanks for your comments.
The Hail failled to see frontline service but several prototypes were used in test programs

JP Vieira · « **Reply #843 on:** December 20, 2012, 02:32:34 AM »

The carrier version of the Hail, the Sea Hail (very imaginative I know

), fared a little better then its land-based brother; some of them entered service with the Royal Navy, althought did not enjoyed a long service life.

raafif · « **Reply #844 on:** December 20, 2012, 05:21:58 AM »

I like the Sea Hail -- would the Americans buy her for the fleet, calling it the Sea Sleet ??

How about a sleeker Tempest-style cowling ?

JP Vieira · « **Reply #845 on:** December 21, 2012, 07:10:35 PM »

Yes, the production Sea Hail featured a diferent front fuselage.

The Americans did not use the Sea Hail (or the Sea Sleet

)

JP Vieira · « **Reply #846 on:** December 21, 2012, 07:14:06 PM »

Hello
In the last issue of "Mais Alto" magazine (the Mágazine of the Força Aérea Portuguesa) there is the first part of a very interesting article about the (almost) buy by Portugal of Mirage IIIs.
It features also a great what-if profile of the Mirage IIIEPL (the proposed version for Portugal) by fellow artist Paulo Alegria.
Inspired by that article (and profile) I propose another what-if: a Phantom in FAP colour and used in the Colonial Wars.

upnorth · « **Reply #847 on:** December 21, 2012, 09:26:14 PM »

That's very cool!

The long nose phantom actually looks pretty good with the gun deleted. It kind of has that "swoopy" nose like the F-111.

Logan Hartke · « **Reply #848 on:** December 21, 2012, 09:44:53 PM »

I agree. That's quite nice.

Cheers,

Logan

JP Vieira · « **Reply #849 on:** December 24, 2012, 05:18:01 AM »

Thanks for the comments


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