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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #75 on: December 04, 2013, 01:15:42 PM »
MBT70   ... want .... no ..... NEED one   :-*

And MENG got my vote on the wishlist thread some time back for coming out with a plastic Conq.


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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #77 on: January 30, 2014, 06:01:02 AM »
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #79 on: February 15, 2014, 01:54:57 PM »
HobbySearch/1999.co.jp now announces the M103 as "in stock"! LINK  8)

Lots of parts not for use! Looks like parts for a different engine deck. Could that mean an M103BA2 isn't that far off?

« Last Edit: February 15, 2014, 02:58:18 PM by ChernayaAkula »
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #80 on: February 15, 2014, 02:06:25 PM »
Lots of parts not for use!

The Missing-Lynx - Modern Armor forum is saying that the extra parts originate from the M48 kit which makes sense since much of the automotive components for both tanks were the same.  It might be relatively easy to take the engine deck from a late model M48 and mate it with the M103 to make the diesel powered M103A2 (the one that I want). 

Possible what-if to consider for a Bundeswehr M103A1G/M103A2G would be armed with the Krupp 12.8cm/L55 with the perforated muzzle break just to spice things up a bit :)
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #81 on: February 15, 2014, 02:57:47 PM »
Thanks for the heads-up, Jeff!  :)

Bundeswehr M103s, huh?  ??? Hadn't considered that. Could look very cool, though. Awww, great, now I need two M103s.  :-X Maybe cross-kitting with some of the parts from Revell's upcoming M48A2GA2?
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #82 on: February 15, 2014, 03:17:12 PM »
Thanks for the heads-up, Jeff!  :)

Bundeswehr M103s, huh?  ??? Hadn't considered that. Could look very cool, though. Awww, great, now I need two M103s.  :-X Maybe cross-kitting with some of the parts from Revell's upcoming M48A2GA2?


Yes, I am an agent of Satan, but my duties are largely ceremonial  >:D

I am curious to know if that Revell Germany M48A2GA2 is a new tool or a borrowed mold from another company with additional parts sprues for that version. 

You could also try to use the engine deck from the Tamiya M48, M247, M60A1, M60A2, or the corresponding Academy kits of the same subjects.  There might be clearance issues between the bottom of the turret overhanging the engine deck area but it is certainly worth a try. 

As for the back story for that M103A1G/M103A2G: Perhaps it was a development to counter the Soviet 130mm assault gun tanks (such as the SU-130 or SU-152) that were assigned to special Front and Army level assault gun units located in the Western Military Districts of the USSR, the GSFG, and other Warsaw Pact countries that had USSR forces stationed within their borders that were field army or larger units. 
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #83 on: February 15, 2014, 03:52:16 PM »
As far as I know, the Revell M48A2GA2 will be a completely new kit!
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #84 on: February 15, 2014, 05:11:26 PM »
Still hanging out for an injection moulded Conqueror FOV and a Centurion FOV would be nice too, 1/72, 1/48, or 1/35, I'm not fussy.  Maybe some Comets for good measure too  ;)

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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #85 on: February 16, 2014, 04:21:18 AM »

Yes, I am an agent of Satan, but my duties are largely ceremonial  >:D


But you carry them out with such fervour... ;)

I'm thinking Israeli M103 with Reactive armour etc…similar to some of their Magach series.
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #86 on: February 16, 2014, 05:12:27 AM »
How about some APCs to go with these Cold War heavies? M59, M75, FV432, AMX VCI etc...
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #87 on: February 16, 2014, 05:22:10 AM »
Such as…

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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #88 on: February 16, 2014, 06:22:27 AM »
Yes, I am an agent of Satan, but my duties are largely ceremonial  >:D
But you carry them out with such fervour... ;)

I'm thinking Israeli M103 with Reactive armour etc…similar to some of their Magach series.


IDF M103A2 as a Tiran with the Russian 122mm gun replacing the American 120mm gun.  You get the wicked looking muzzle brake and some big boxes attached to the sides of the turret to provide more stowage space :)
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #89 on: February 16, 2014, 07:52:32 AM »
So not to threadjack, links to the new M48A2GA2?

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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #90 on: February 16, 2014, 09:28:09 AM »
Such as…

<Retrokit 1/35th M75>


Blimey, that's a BIG lump of solid resin...

I suggested the APCs as things that Dragon/Meng et all could make as injection kits to go with their current oddball heavy tanks obsession.

On the latter, if they're going to do the M6, then how about some of the British prototypes like the TOG 1, TOG 2 and Black Prince? Alternatively, since Meng have done a Char-2C, how about a French ARL-44, which actually saw limited service?
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #92 on: February 16, 2014, 10:01:23 AM »
Yes, I am an agent of Satan, but my duties are largely ceremonial  >:D
But you carry them out with such fervour... ;)

I'm thinking Israeli M103 with Reactive armour etc…similar to some of their Magach series.


IDF M103A2 as a Tiran with the Russian 122mm gun replacing the American 120mm gun.  You get the wicked looking muzzle brake and some big boxes attached to the sides of the turret to provide more stowage space :)

Why replace a more accurate gun with a less accurate one?  The 122mm from the JSIII suffered (like a lot of ex-artillery pieces pressed into tank service) from excessive dispersion (and poor optics).  The M58 120mm was by all accounts an excellent weapon, which is one of the reasons why it was adopted in the Conqueror.  Split loading was it's only problem but again, that was one commonly shared with most weapons of that calibre at that time.

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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #93 on: February 16, 2014, 02:31:46 PM »
Not quite solid:  http://www.amps-armor.org/ampssite/reviews/showReview.aspx?ID=2314&Type=FB

It seems that RetroKits web page is no longer active and the domain name is now for sale :(
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #94 on: February 17, 2014, 02:22:20 AM »
Not so sure, try here:  http://www.retrokitonline.net  + the link in the above post still works for me.

Awfully tempted to get some of these guys to help me…

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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #95 on: February 17, 2014, 05:47:04 AM »
Not so sure, try here:  http://www.retrokitonline.net  + the link in the above post still works for me.

Awfully tempted to get some of these guys to help me…

The AMPS article works for me as well, it was the link provided within the linked page for RetroKit that was incorrect. 

So it was retrokitonline.com in the link which lead to the dead domain up for sale announcement instead of the correct address of retrokitonline.net which makes all the difference in getting to the correct page. 
« Last Edit: February 17, 2014, 05:51:07 AM by Jeffry Fontaine »
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #96 on: February 28, 2014, 11:16:48 AM »
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #97 on: March 03, 2014, 10:53:35 PM »
"Vodnik" has posted a review of the M103. LINK Long story short, sadly: complete and utter fustercluck!  :-X
This is not overly critical rivet-counting making a big fuss over a mm off here or there. You gotta wonder whether Dragon actually looked at the 103 at all. It's almost as if they didn't even try.  :icon_twisted:
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #98 on: March 04, 2014, 06:42:44 AM »
Ah well... Opens up whiffing opportunities. ;)
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Re: DML (Dragon Models Limited) and CyberHobby
« Reply #99 on: March 04, 2014, 07:47:06 AM »
"Vodnik" has posted a review of the M103. LINK Long story short, sadly: complete and utter fustercluck!  :-X
This is not overly critical rivet-counting making a big fuss over a mm off here or there. You gotta wonder whether Dragon actually looked at the 103 at all. It's almost as if they didn't even try.  :icon_twisted:

The glaring errors hopefully work in our favour and the price on the M103 kit will be substantially discounted which would be the one good thing to come out of Vodnik's brutal critique of the kit.   :icon_ninja:
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