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ASLAV 1A2 - Done! (w/pic's)
« on: April 02, 2016, 07:08:21 PM »
I've started on my 3D interpretation of a blend of these 2D images created by apophenia in Profiles and Pixels.


* aslav-4x4-recce-stealth.jpg (46.7 kB, 685x379 - viewed 37 times.)


* aslav-4x4-recce-sabre.jpg (82.26 kB, 779x410 - viewed 30 times.)


I have done quite well over the last few nights getting it this far (the last 2 have mostly been PSR).

One point to note: the Marder turret has a slightly largerturret ring diameter than the ASLAV (& the fitment is totally different between the 2 kits being used).

One thing I'm struggling with is whether to stay with the 20mm Rheinmetal cannon or up-gun to the 25mm Bushmaster?

Here are a few shots of how she's going;













« Last Edit: June 08, 2016, 09:55:10 PM by Old Wombat »
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Re: ASLAV 4x4 (ASLAV 1A2)
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2016, 10:43:16 PM »
Off to a good start Guy.  Will be interesting to see your interpretation of this idea progress into a finished model.
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Re: ASLAV 4x4 (ASLAV 1A2)
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2016, 11:26:25 PM »
The original images are so small. I recognize there really the turret of a Marder? :o

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Re: ASLAV 4x4 (ASLAV 1A2)
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2016, 06:30:10 AM »
well a terrific kick off at any rate

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Re: ASLAV 4x4 (ASLAV 1A2)
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2016, 03:25:31 PM »
Thanks, guys! :icon_alabanza:

Build has slowed a little bit but I intend to get stuck into it tonight & I hope to have it ready for paint by Tuesday (my RDO & when I intend to put 1st paint on the HMBLT).

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Re: ASLAV 4x4 (ASLAV 1A2)
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2016, 06:21:24 AM »
Love it love it love it!

I would consider filing off the 2nd shock tower mount / bulge if you are doing a 4x4.

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Re: ASLAV 4x4 (ASLAV 1A2)
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2016, 07:48:10 PM »
Following intently...and looking over the stash for possible USMC conversions of a similar vein...

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Re: ASLAV 4x4 (ASLAV 1A2)
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2016, 12:12:47 AM »
I would consider filing off the 2nd shock tower mount / bulge if you are doing a 4x4.


Done before I read this.


OK, Build going a bit slower than I'd like, may have to delay painting until Wednesday.

Here she is as of now.





















As you can see, I've gone for the 25mm Bushmaster & have, therefore, modified the gun housing to indicate the larger weapon.

I've put a spent-casing chute ejecting from the rear of the housing, so the spent casings don't eject over the commander's hatch, but I'm not really sure about its practicallity. Would the casings clog up & jam the mechanism? Would I be better off with a port at the bottom of the housing?

Apart from the bits still to glue on I, also, have to cut out a circle in the right side for the spare wheel. I'll be gluing the wheels on with white glue (or similar) until I can get a decent set of resin LAV wheels which include a spare.


Thanks for watching & all of your input!

Guy. ;)
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Re: ASLAV 4x4 (ASLAV 1A2)
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2016, 01:43:03 AM »
Very nice!  :-*  The Bushmaster was an unexpected twist  :)
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Re: ASLAV 4x4 (ASLAV 1A2)
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2016, 01:51:16 AM »
Very nice!  :-*  The Bushmaster was an unexpected twist  :)

Was thinking same thing.  Surprised me. :)

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Re: ASLAV 4x4 (ASLAV 1A2)
« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2016, 08:37:47 AM »
Very nice!  :-*  The Bushmaster was an unexpected twist  :)

Was thinking same thing.  Surprised me. :)

Thanks! :icon_alabanza:

I thought about it for a bit & just felt that with modern armour the 20mm was just that bit too smal, OK against light vehicles & trucks but lacking the punch to take on other AFV's, plus the 25mm gives greater commonality with other LAV's.

Then, in the build, I knew that I couldn't just tack the Bushmaster barrel on the end of the Marder turret/gun housing, so I added on the recoil damper casing & bulked up the gun housing a bit.

Still not sure about the ejector port, though. ???
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Re: ASLAV 4x4 (ASLAV 1A2)
« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2016, 09:57:28 AM »
Place the ejector port back on the side and add a chute to redirect the expended rounds to the rear or even underneath the weapon housing.   Ejected ammunition is always a problem with any automatic weapon.   I remember I was rather surprised to see photos of AC-130s with the crews using shovels to get rid of the expended shell casings from their Vulcan cannons which had collected inside the aircraft fuselage, after they had landed back at their airbase.   AFVs have the added problem in that expended casings can jam turrets/gun elevation, if the designer isn't careful about where they get ejected.

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Re: ASLAV 4x4 (ASLAV 1A2)
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2016, 11:09:48 AM »
Spent case ejection is done with the same forward movement of the bolt that chambers the fresh round. So, to eject rearward, you'd also need to whif the action of the Bushmaster itself. 'M242AU'?
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Re: ASLAV 4x4 (ASLAV 1A2)
« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2016, 11:31:08 AM »
Thanks guys! :)

You got me looking at RW Bushmasters & I saw a photo of a naval version ejecting spent casings though a tube above the barrel.

I now know what I'm going to do! :D


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Re: ASLAV 4x4 (ASLAV 1A2)
« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2016, 11:40:47 AM »
oh yeah! The bushmaster gun was 100% the way to go!

I wonder if LAV-III / Stryker rims and tires would fit without rubbing on the upper hull?

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Re: ASLAV 4x4 (ASLAV 1A2)
« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2016, 03:10:16 PM »
Your model looks good. And now I see, that the original-picture is a fake.

Didi

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Re: ASLAV 4x4 (ASLAV 1A2)
« Reply #17 on: April 07, 2016, 05:56:40 PM »
Thanks, everyone! :icon_alabanza:

Next instalment;

As of last night, as you can see, I'm nowhere near where I wanted to be but maybe by the end of next week ....... ???















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Re: ASLAV 4x4 (ASLAV 1A2)
« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2016, 07:56:34 PM »
Coming along quite nicely.  I like the well-lived-in look with the storage bins on the rear and sides.

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Re: ASLAV 4x4 (ASLAV 1A2)
« Reply #19 on: April 07, 2016, 10:00:24 PM »
yeah! That is really creative use of the LAV-III (?) Turret stowage!

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Re: ASLAV 4x4 (ASLAV 1A2)
« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2016, 04:52:09 AM »
Looking good
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Re: ASLAV 4x4 (ASLAV 1A2)
« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2016, 05:09:48 AM »
Thanks, gents! :icon_alabanza:


LemonJello & Gingie, I used the turret stowage, very slightly modified, from the Black Dog "Australian ASLAV accessories set" (T35063).
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Re: ASLAV 4x4 (ASLAV 1A2)
« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2016, 04:35:48 AM »
Very nice  :)  And love that spare wheel stowage  :-*
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Re: ASLAV 4x4 (ASLAV 1A2)
« Reply #23 on: April 09, 2016, 08:13:53 PM »
yeah that spare wheel stowage looks a lot better than on the trim vane. It also looks more "australian" to my eye, I think the SASR Perenties and Mogs have a similar spare wheel set up.

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Re: ASLAV 4x4 (ASLAV 1A2)
« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2016, 09:34:22 PM »
Hi All, back again! :D

Except for some small bits & pieces to be added after painting she's done! :icon_music:

Tools, mesh screens, lights, commander figure (when I find one), etc., to follow.



















As you can see, I had a brain-fart & decided to modify the commander's cupola to something a little more modern. Not perfect, by any means, but I like it.

Now, all I need to find is a FGM-148 Javelin ATGM in 1/35th to fit on the side of the turret as a modern replacement for the Milan.
(Fire-&-forget being more suited to Sabre recce than holding the target in your sights before high-tailing it out of the heat!)

:))
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