F-5 Freedom Fighter, Tiger, F-20 Tigershark, X-29 concepts and proposals ...

[Kerick]

Viggen wing?

yeh and it fits lovely

I have a new F-20 kit and an old Viggen that needs a new lease on life.............

[Daryl J.]

For the F-20N kit:
A recce nose, Israeli.  Two fuel tanks.  One midline water tank.

Or


Enlarge the horizontal flying surfaces by 20-30%.   Visually balance out that long nose a bit.

[elmayerle]

F-20N with same aero shape as RF-5E nose but with all but front windows solid and guts of a modern targeting pod (some Lightening variant, since that's an Israeli pod, most likely) in there as a "Fast FAC".  At least two wing drop tanks, other hardpoints with optional stores (for maximal time on station, use F-5 tip tanks).

[Daryl J.]

That'd be very cool.

[dams301]

Boxart for the next F-20 from Freedom model :



I need this one

[Gingie]

Cool "WHIF" logo on the boxart!

[Daryl J.]

Saw that same label.  :)

[taiidantomcat]

That is gorgeous box art 

[The Big Gimper]

They should leave it off so the JMN's walk away confused and angry. 

[Volkodav]

It just gets better and better, just need more stash space.

[ysi_maniac]

At least one naval T-38/F-5 variant was the N-285B (I do wish I'd copied that brochure when I had the chance to read it in a co-worker's cubicle).

Now, as part of the early history of the Lavi, IAI approached Northrop about a joint-venture (this was early one when they contemplated using a F404 for power; weight growth led to the PW1120).  Northrop came back with some Tigershark/Lavi hybrids.  The first version used much of the F-20's structure; see below.

Is this a canard config? I had no idea about this project.

[elmayerle]

At least one naval T-38/F-5 variant was the N-285B (I do wish I'd copied that brochure when I had the chance to read it in a co-worker's cubicle).

Now, as part of the early history of the Lavi, IAI approached Northrop about a joint-venture (this was early one when they contemplated using a F404 for power; weight growth led to the PW1120).  Northrop came back with some Tigershark/Lavi hybrids.  The first version used much of the F-20's structure; see below.

Is this a canard config? I had no idea about this project.

The N-285B or the Tigershark/Lavi hybrid?  The first had a raised rear cockpit and a larger and slightly more swept wing while some of the different variations of the latter did have canards.

[GTX_Admin]

F-5 in T-50 scheme:

[Old Wombat]

That's quite pretty in those colours.

[dy031101]

Am I hallucinating when I see traces of heritage from the F-5 family on Northrop's T-X demonstrator?

[The Big Gimper]

Am I hallucinating when I see traces of heritage from the F-5 family on Northrop's T-X demonstrator?

The ‘clean sheet’ design shows clear lineage with the T-38 and indeed the F-20 Tigershark.

From  CombatAircraft.net

[elmayerle]

Am I hallucinating when I see traces of heritage from the F-5 family on Northrop's T-X demonstrator?

No, I wouldn't say you were, the family resemblance is there; clearly some "DNA" carried over.  Their demonstrator is an attractive aircraft but I'm not sure how well the costs of an all-new design will compare with adapting an existing recent trainer design.

[AXOR]

By Tophe,who else ,suggestion,we have now an F-5 Zwilling

[Weaver]

That's an interesting idea.

The first thing that occured to me was to replace the outboard canards in the second image with a surface linking the fuselages. It would be structurally stronger and get endplate effect at both ends. If there was a corresponding surface at the rear, then each would only need to have the area of one standard F-5 tailplane.

If you did this with F-20s, you could eliminate the inboard intakes (getting them out of the canard wake) and have a double-sized intake on the outboard side of each fuselage.

Another possibility would be to have a single pilot plus guns in one nose section and no pilot but a bigger radar in the other one.

[AXOR]

Following the suggestions mentioned above, :),I come to this :
Added the tailplane in its original position,added larger middle section placed over the inner intakes to ensure adequate air flow,single seat and bigger radar...you could say that is the ancestor of Buck Roger's Starfighter  ...to be honest,I really like this machine,I mean F-5 Zwilling

[perttime]

Following the suggestions mentioned above ...

Needs more asymmetry. One of them could be F-20, at least.

[KiwiZac]

Maybe the F-20 side could have a bigger missile on the wingtip rail? Even more asymmetry!

[Volkodav]

Radar in one nose, laser and other optics on the other, including a gimballed designator/range finder and an IRST, leaving one nose very clean and sleek and the other lumpy, bumpy and aggressive.  Follow up with air to air ordinance on the radar side and air to ground on the other, a very asymmetrical multi-role fighter.

[Volkodav]

Actually how about an attack coded A-5, no radar but all the warrie air to ground sensors, say a Jag or Harrier GR3 nose and various lumps and bumps for night attack and navigation sensors.

[GTX_Admin]

Actually how about an attack coded A-5, no radar but all the warrie air to ground sensors, say a Jag or Harrier GR3 nose and various lumps and bumps for night attack and navigation sensors.

A bit like this one from the first page of this thread: