Author Topic: Stargazer2006's imaginary aircraft (Read 164256 times)

Stargazer2006 · « **Reply #200 on:** November 21, 2012, 05:39:28 PM »

Quote from: GTX_Admin on November 21, 2012, 04:03:37 PM

What size would that torp be?

Way too big, probably, but I have little knowledge in ordnance and so I reused a photo I found on the web without much consideration for the torpedo's size...

Plus it's probably a submarine-launched torpedo, not an airborne one...

$:-\$

Cliffy B · « **Reply #201 on:** November 22, 2012, 03:27:35 AM »

I thought it was a mini-sub

Might work for some spec ops stuff although I don't think it could of carried one...

BTW, the mainstay torpedoes for the USN during the war were:
Planes - Mk-13; 22.4" diameter, 13.5" long, weighed 2,200 lbs, 600 lbs warhead.
Subs - Mk-14; 21" diameter, 20.5' long, weighed 3,280 lbs, 643 lbs warhead.
Ships - Mk-15; 21" diameter, 24' long, weighed 2,840 lbs, 825 lbs warhead.

So as you can see they were all very similar in size and weight.

Stargazer2006 · « **Reply #202 on:** November 22, 2012, 05:02:32 AM »

I may end up downsizing the torpedo a bit. Thanks for the comments, folks!

Here is the Northrop White Ray, a prototype that was the missing link between Tacit Blue and the B-2 Spirit...

Original picture here: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fichier:Tacit_Blue_Whale_USAF.jpg

Cliffy B · « **Reply #203 on:** November 22, 2012, 05:12:42 AM »

Nice! I look at that and instantly think sci-fi VIP shuttle. Just needs some markings

Would be neat if the mother ship had a custom triangular inset on the hull somewhere for it to hook into for docking.

elmayerle · « **Reply #204 on:** November 22, 2012, 07:59:06 AM »

*snicker* Plausible intermediate step as a tech demonstrator.

arc3371 · « **Reply #205 on:** November 22, 2012, 08:06:12 AM »

I certainly looks like an interesting competitor to the Gulfstream

Stargazer2006 · « **Reply #206 on:** November 22, 2012, 08:30:17 AM »

Quote from: arc3371 on November 22, 2012, 08:06:12 AM

I certainly looks like an interesting competitor to the Gulfstream

? $:-\$

arc3371 · « **Reply #207 on:** November 22, 2012, 08:40:14 AM »

Maybe I got it wrong but it looks like the perfect corporate jet for a flamboyant billionaire

Stargazer2006 · « **Reply #208 on:** November 22, 2012, 09:48:37 AM »

Quote from: arc3371 on November 22, 2012, 08:40:14 AM

Maybe I got it wrong but it looks like the perfect corporate jet for a flamboyant billionaire

Well, I was thinking more along the lines of a sub-scale B-2 bomber demonstrator! But then... why not a (very original) bizjet?

Rafael · « **Reply #209 on:** November 22, 2012, 11:36:04 AM »

Stéphane, a few pages back you wrote something about spending 4 hours doing your thing. Well, I'm amazed at how fast you are in imagining, creating, prototyping, and making your projects become reality. And still I do not tire of admiring your vintage ad style. The Superman one is splendid!

Kudos on a job ~~well~~ exceedingly well done!!

Tophe · « **Reply #210 on:** November 22, 2012, 12:27:40 PM »

The White Ray picture is not fantasy dreaming: look at the shadow on the ground...
(Congratulations!)

finsrin · « **Reply #211 on:** November 22, 2012, 01:13:09 PM »

Lockheed Thunder is too cool

If you are going to shrink torpedo. Recommend two more touches.
1 > fins on torpedo
2 > tail wheels as this woul be a tail dragger

Like how the whole add sheet reads and looks. Super job.

elmayerle · « **Reply #212 on:** November 22, 2012, 03:35:26 PM »

Quote from: Stargazer2006 on November 22, 2012, 09:48:37 AM

Quote from: arc3371 on November 22, 2012, 08:40:14 AM
Maybe I got it wrong but it looks like the perfect corporate jet for a flamboyant billionaire

Well, I was thinking more along the lines of a sub-scale B-2 bomber demonstrator! But then... why not a (very original) bizjet?

Actually, there's a whole lot of Tacit Blue in the B-2, but you have to look for it. Take the side outline of the Tacit Blue, turn it upside down, and compare it with the side outline of the B-2. For that matter, turn it over, shrink it down, and compare it with the outline of TSSAM.

finsrin · « **Reply #213 on:** November 22, 2012, 03:52:53 PM »

Small stealth transport to parachute special forces teams of four or less and do supply drops.

Stargazer2006 · « **Reply #214 on:** November 22, 2012, 05:01:41 PM »

Thanks a lot for the kudos, folks!

Quote from: finsrin on November 22, 2012, 01:13:09 PM

If you are going to shrink torpedo. Recommend two more touches.
1 > fins on torpedo
2 > tail wheels as this woul be a tail dragger

You are the second person who sees this as a tail dragger. What is the technical aspect of this? I would have thought that the weight of two engines, two cockpits, two pilots, and a torpedo would take the center of gravity very much to the fore, and therefore require a nose gear configuration... Can you help?

Stargazer2006 · « **Reply #215 on:** November 22, 2012, 05:51:58 PM »

Another case of reality greater than fiction...

This started as a project to turn the beautiful 1946 reconnaissance/transport Republic RC-2 Rainbow prototype into a bomber. I thought that since Republic had also projected a fighter called the Warrior, having a Republic bomber called the Rainbow Warrior was kind of a funny twist...

And then I realized that there had actually been company plans to turn the Rainbow into a bomber! The project was designated AP-60 and goes back to 1949.

So here's the Republic AP-60B Rainbow Warrior ("B" to indicate that it's not the actual project). The footer and "rainbow" logo are real, the "warrior" part was recreated.

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #216 on:** November 22, 2012, 06:27:18 PM »

For some reason the White Ray looks like a VTOL jet to me.

Cliffy B · « **Reply #217 on:** November 23, 2012, 12:12:45 AM »

I need a three view of that bomber now

Would lake great it in WWII camo or zipping over Korea.

Frank3k · « **Reply #218 on:** November 23, 2012, 12:15:45 AM »

I thought the white-ray had gull-wing doors! Sort of a retro-stealth commuter aircraft. I got a VTOL vibe from it, too - must be the intakes and the head-on view.

The AP-60B looks great! I love the Rainbow. The only changes I would make would be to move the bomb bay further back (starting around where the prop blur is). The turret breaks up the sleek lines of the plane, but in this case I think it works!

Stephane, your work seems so effortless, but having tried photoshopping planes, I know it isn't.

The Big Gimper · « **Reply #219 on:** November 23, 2012, 01:57:09 AM »

Quote from: Stargazer2006 on November 22, 2012, 05:51:58 PM

Another case of reality greater than fiction...

This started as a project to turn the beautiful 1946 reconnaissance/transport Republic RC-2 Rainbow prototype into a bomber. I thought that since Republic had also projected a fighter called the Warrior, having a Republic bomber called the Rainbow Warrior was kind of a funny twist...

And then I realized that there had actually been company plans to turn the Rainbow into a bomber! The project was designated AP-60 and goes back to 1949.

So here's the Republic AP-60B Rainbow Warrior ("B" to indicate that it's not the actual project). The footer and "rainbow" logo are real, the "warrior" part was recreated.

Your work Stephane is a great example of why a letter such as this needs to be written:

Dear Mr. Model Maker:

Stop making low volume kits such as the 1/48 Phantom. 1/48 Me 509 or 1/48 F-35B and tool up the Republic F-12 and a few derivatives such as the AP-60B or RC-2 and watch the crew at BTS buy hundreds of your kit. And while you are at it, could you also do a XP-72?

Just saying.

Logan Hartke · « **Reply #220 on:** November 23, 2012, 07:33:57 AM »

That looks great, Stéphane! It looks like a natural!

Cheers,

Logan

Stargazer2006 · « **Reply #221 on:** November 23, 2012, 11:18:25 PM »

Don't believe everything you see...

The brochure below does NOT exist... simply because the North American Ravage dive bomber is also a product of my imagination!

The aircraft was completely re-worked from an existing aircraft type. Can you guess which?

finsrin · « **Reply #222 on:** November 24, 2012, 12:26:21 AM »

Way cool. Totally 1950's style excellence

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #223 on:** November 24, 2012, 04:15:21 AM »

Reworked from a F-84F?

Stargazer2006 · « **Reply #224 on:** November 24, 2012, 06:08:59 AM »

Quote from: GTX_Admin on November 24, 2012, 04:15:21 AM

Reworked from a F-84F?

Nope. I know it does have a Thunderjet feel to it, but only the cowling of the wing's engine was taken from an F-84...


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