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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #75 on: December 14, 2013, 03:09:45 AM »
Not pretty.

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #76 on: December 14, 2013, 03:14:02 AM »
It certainly looks somewhat plain compared to the 'Real Tomcat'. I'm glad they developed it some.
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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #77 on: December 14, 2013, 03:16:35 AM »
It looks like a twin tail scale-o-rama Tu-22M3 Backfire.

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #78 on: December 14, 2013, 04:12:03 AM »
Not pretty.

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It's very different from the final configuration and most of the preliminary ones, that's why I did it. I make no claims to its aesthetics.  ;)

I did add in the detailing from the final F-14, since it seemed appropriate.

It looks like a twin tail scale-o-rama Tu-22M3 Backfire.

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Funny you should mention that. The thing I hate most is the stubby little tails. I'd much rather see it with an A-5/Tu-22-style single tail.

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #79 on: December 14, 2013, 04:22:03 AM »
Oh, I agree with both points.  I do think a large single tail would be the best, aesthetically.

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #80 on: December 14, 2013, 06:50:31 AM »
Funny you should mention that. The thing I hate most is the stubby little tails. I'd much rather see it with an A-5/Tu-22-style single tail.
Either that or two higher-aspect verticals, such as those that appeared on the oriignal A3J mockup

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #81 on: December 15, 2013, 02:32:44 AM »
I think a single fin on the Tomcat is ugly, as shown below ....
A bigger fin may have looked ok.

Clearly ventral fins (that flip up for landing) were de-rigeur at that time.

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #82 on: February 08, 2014, 02:17:15 AM »
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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #83 on: February 08, 2014, 03:04:22 AM »
Question:  What is the MiG in the top left corner shooting at??
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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #84 on: February 08, 2014, 08:23:50 AM »
Question:  What is the MiG in the top left corner shooting at??

A Good MiG shooting a Bad MiG that is in term after two Good MiGs?  ;D
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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #85 on: February 08, 2014, 10:36:03 AM »
Well, ya know sometimes a bloke gets really excited and ...

nobody's fault really, these things just happen.*







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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #86 on: February 09, 2014, 02:49:41 AM »

*not speaking from personal experience, mind.  :icon_fsm:

Sure... ::)
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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #87 on: February 09, 2014, 02:50:55 AM »
Mind you, that F-14 really want to kill the MiG in front…2 missiles plus gun (and he is probably considering ramming as well)...
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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #88 on: February 09, 2014, 08:09:22 AM »
Mind you, that F-14 really want to kill the MiG in front…2 missiles plus gun (and he is probably considering ramming as well)...

Don't forget punching out and landing on the back of the MiG with magnetic boots and a really big sword  ;D
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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #89 on: February 09, 2014, 08:50:25 AM »
I think a single fin on the Tomcat is ugly, as shown below ....
A bigger fin may have looked ok.

Clearly ventral fins (that flip up for landing) were de-rigeur at that time.
I wonder if you could extend the fixed ventral fins farther forward and lower and avoid the folding aspect?

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #90 on: April 20, 2014, 03:40:47 AM »
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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #91 on: January 08, 2015, 11:15:00 PM »
I was wondering if there was a thread for the F-14.

The cat is one of my favorites (along with the F-111 am an old pig-fixed from way back) and I have long been wanting to do something with it, so.

Big movable wigs are really cool but they are a bit troublesome maintenance wise plus there is the penalty with the "wing carry-through box" and all the gear required to move them. So for me, ditch them and fit the best wing of that era, the F-15's. Still allow the wings to fold, fit the GE F-110s (or P&W F100's).....



or stretch the fuselage and add LEX........Long range fleet defense fighter



I am so tempted to build the first one.......just so limited with time and other projects!

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #92 on: January 09, 2015, 02:12:59 AM »
Cool
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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #93 on: January 09, 2015, 02:52:55 AM »
I was wondering if there was a thread for the F-14.

The cat is one of my favorites (along with the F-111 am an old pig-fixed from way back) and I have long been wanting to do something with it, so.

Big movable wigs are really cool but they are a bit troublesome maintenance wise plus there is the penalty with the "wing carry-through box" and all the gear required to move them. So for me, ditch them and fit the best wing of that era, the F-15's. Still allow the wings to fold, fit the GE F-110s (or P&W F100's).....>snip<I am so tempted to build the first one.......just so limited with time and other projects!
Your F-14S looks quite capable.  Though, it might be more practical to use the F-18 wing for your project.  Since that wing already has the wing fold features incorporated into it and the capability of hauling more weight via the multitude of stores pylons on each wing which is an excellent location for your auxiliary fuel tanks and additional missiles all the while retaining the space between the engines for the larger Phoenix weapons. 

Now I wonder what an F-15 with F-18 wings would look like... ;)
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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #94 on: January 09, 2015, 08:55:31 AM »
I was wondering if there was a thread for the F-14.

The cat is one of my favorites (along with the F-111 am an old pig-fixed from way back) and I have long been wanting to do something with it, so.

Big movable wigs are really cool but they are a bit troublesome maintenance wise plus there is the penalty with the "wing carry-through box" and all the gear required to move them. So for me, ditch them and fit the best wing of that era, the F-15's. Still allow the wings to fold, fit the GE F-110s (or P&W F100's).....>snip<I am so tempted to build the first one.......just so limited with time and other projects!
Your F-14S looks quite capable.  Though, it might be more practical to use the F-18 wing for your project.  Since that wing already has the wing fold features incorporated into it and the capability of hauling more weight via the multitude of stores pylons on each wing which is an excellent location for your auxiliary fuel tanks and additional missiles all the while retaining the space between the engines for the larger Phoenix weapons. 

Now I wonder what an F-15 with F-18 wings would look like... ;)
In both cases, you might want to scale the F-18 wing to fit, since the basic F-18 is somewhat smaller than the F-14 or F-15; I think even the Super Hornet is smaller than either.  If memory serves me correctly (no guarantee on that anymore), a 1/48 F-18 wing would likely do nicely on a 1/72 F-14, but would probably need some "adjusting" to work for a F-15.  Still, it would be fun to play with.

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #95 on: January 09, 2015, 01:29:24 PM »
Years ago I tried to do the opposite, graft an F-14 swing wing (Matchbox) onto an F/A-18A (Italeri or Hasegawa, cant remember which), didn't work and the whole thing ended up in the bin as the wing was just too big.  I wonder though if it would be workable with the larger F/A-18E/F/G?

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #96 on: January 09, 2015, 02:19:51 PM »
Years ago I tried to do the opposite, graft an F-14 swing wing (Matchbox) onto an F/A-18A (Italeri or Hasegawa, cant remember which), didn't work and the whole thing ended up in the bin as the wing was just too big.  I wonder though if it would be workable with the larger F/A-18E/F/G?
Probably would've worked better with a 1/100 F-14 wing to a 1/72 F-18 and I could see a 1/72 F-14 wing to a 1/48 F-18.  The Super Hornet is larger than the original, but I don't think it's that much larger (going from memory - and I make no claims about its reliability - the Super Hornet is roughly 25% larger than the Hornet and I don't think that's near enough to be able to use a F-14 wing in the same scale).

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #97 on: January 09, 2015, 03:07:48 PM »
True, the other option would be a Tornado wing but that's getting off the F-14 topic  ;)

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #98 on: January 31, 2015, 10:30:32 AM »
Need I say more...

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Re: Grumman F-14 Tomcat Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #99 on: January 31, 2015, 10:02:41 PM »
Now that would have made for a very intimidating display  ;D