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Current and Finished Projects => Physical Models => Aero-space => Topic started by: Camthalion on October 11, 2016, 05:32:07 PM

Title: New Cap City Autogyro
Post by: Camthalion on October 11, 2016, 05:32:07 PM
Since an engineering problem (ie how to attach the lift engines)  has bought my flying carrier to a halt, I have decided to start this project which I hope should prove somewhat easier.  The autogyro from New Cap city on Caprica.

(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u94/rowdy75/WIP/fighter_autogyro_zpss254mj3i.jpg) (http://s166.photobucket.com/user/rowdy75/media/WIP/fighter_autogyro_zpss254mj3i.jpg.html)
(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u94/rowdy75/WIP/caprica2_zpskxmykp1x.jpg) (http://s166.photobucket.com/user/rowdy75/media/WIP/caprica2_zpskxmykp1x.jpg.html)
(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u94/rowdy75/WIP/Autogyro%20WIP%201_zpsifjau8og.jpg) (http://s166.photobucket.com/user/rowdy75/media/WIP/Autogyro%20WIP%201_zpsifjau8og.jpg.html)
(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u94/rowdy75/WIP/Autogyro%20WIP%202_zpsd8l3al7s.jpg) (http://s166.photobucket.com/user/rowdy75/media/WIP/Autogyro%20WIP%202_zpsd8l3al7s.jpg.html)

Geoff
Title: Re: New Cap City Autogyro
Post by: Tophe on October 11, 2016, 11:18:26 PM
Interesting! ;)
Title: Re: New Cap City Autogyro
Post by: KiwiZac on October 12, 2016, 03:49:16 AM
Cooooooooooool!
Title: Re: New Cap City Autogyro
Post by: Brian da Basher on October 13, 2016, 03:19:16 AM
Auto-gyros are so neat looking and pretty easy to build if you have the parts, I'm surprised we don't see more of them.

I'm really looking forward to seeing this one progress, in your talented hands I'm sure it's going to be a winner!

Brian da Basher
Title: Re: New Cap City Autogyro
Post by: Camthalion on October 14, 2016, 12:09:52 PM
Thanks fellas.  Current status before my run of shifts start tonight and brings any model work to a stop for a few days.

(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u94/rowdy75/WIP/Autogyro%20WIP%205_zpsnyfsz6ra.jpg) (http://s166.photobucket.com/user/rowdy75/media/WIP/Autogyro%20WIP%205_zpsnyfsz6ra.jpg.html)
Title: Re: New Cap City Autogyro
Post by: Old Wombat on October 14, 2016, 12:20:28 PM
Ooh! Funky! :)
Title: Re: New Cap City Autogyro
Post by: Frank3k on October 14, 2016, 12:33:46 PM
This autogyro looks really good! Where did you get the rotors?
There was a helicopter with a similar layout - the  Focke-Achgelis Fa 223 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Achgelis_Fa_223)

(http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/images/fa223-1.jpg)
Title: Re: New Cap City Autogyro
Post by: Camthalion on October 14, 2016, 05:46:58 PM
Thanks guys.  The rotors are modified ka52 rotors from the spares box.  Never heard of that chopper before.  Thanks for the pic and link
Title: Re: New Cap City Autogyro
Post by: jcf on October 15, 2016, 01:29:14 AM
The New Cap City autogiro was inspired by the Fw 61 (aka Fa 61) helicopter.
The engine mounted prop on the Fw 61 was for engine cooling rather than
propulsion.
Title: Re: New Cap City Autogyro
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 15, 2016, 03:39:39 AM
Damn!  That is looking good.
Title: Re: New Cap City Autogyro
Post by: finsrin on October 15, 2016, 03:58:14 AM
Damn!  That is looking good.

Yep,,, super scratch building, has its own kind of cool.
Title: Re: New Cap City Autogyro
Post by: Camthalion on October 16, 2016, 06:52:10 PM
Managed to get some work done on the autogyro on my pyjama day after all. Discovered, after I had finished the framework that the starboard side was at more of an angle the the port. and had to cut it off and re-position. Not 100% happy with it, but I'm not completely re-building.

(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u94/rowdy75/WIP/20161016_120321_zpsn5dyfkjb.jpg) (http://s166.photobucket.com/user/rowdy75/media/WIP/20161016_120321_zpsn5dyfkjb.jpg.html)
Title: Re: New Cap City Autogyro
Post by: taiidantomcat on October 16, 2016, 09:47:29 PM
I am blown away by the job you are doing here! Great work with the scratch built structure  :-*
Title: Re: New Cap City Autogyro
Post by: Tophe on October 16, 2016, 11:46:54 PM
Congratulations! Uneasy to make but delicious to see... :-*
Title: Re: New Cap City Autogyro
Post by: KiwiZac on October 17, 2016, 03:47:52 AM
The New Cap City autogiro was inspired by the Fw 61 (aka Fa 61) helicopter.
The engine mounted prop on the Fw 61 was for engine cooling rather than
propulsion.
That's what I was thinking. Then I saw the big prop on this one and thought maybe the designer didn't understand. Still cool though, and those rotor pylons are a gorgeous piece of engineering!
Title: Re: New Cap City Autogyro
Post by: jcf on October 17, 2016, 06:59:10 AM
The New Cap City autogiro was inspired by the Fw 61 (aka Fa 61) helicopter.
The engine mounted prop on the Fw 61 was for engine cooling rather than
propulsion.
That's what I was thinking. Then I saw the big prop on this one and thought maybe the designer didn't understand. Still cool though, and those rotor pylons are a gorgeous piece of engineering!
Yep, the Caprica CGI design crew went for looks.  ;D

In the RW I doubt a twin-rotor autogiro would even work due to the nature of how an autogiro rotor system functions,
indeed it would probably destroy itself more quickly due to ground resonance than the RW large autogiros that were
actually constructed.
 :-X
Title: Re: New Cap City Autogyro
Post by: finsrin on October 17, 2016, 08:37:49 AM
Fortunately twin rotor autogyro technical issues don't affect styrene builds.
Title: Re: New Cap City Autogyro
Post by: kitnut617 on October 17, 2016, 06:09:48 PM
But it has drive shafts, doesn't that make it a helicopter   ???
Title: Re: New Cap City Autogyro
Post by: Old Wombat on October 17, 2016, 06:30:20 PM
Maybe it's just gearing between the rotor sets, so they don't get out of sync & hit each other? ???
Title: Re: New Cap City Autogyro
Post by: Camthalion on October 17, 2016, 06:37:02 PM
Thanks fellas

Title: Re: New Cap City Autogyro
Post by: KiwiZac on October 18, 2016, 07:01:23 AM
Please don't take my comments as a negative criticism, I really like the look of your build!
Title: Re: New Cap City Autogyro
Post by: Camthalion on October 18, 2016, 09:13:48 AM
Please don't take my comments as a negative criticism, I really like the look of your build!
No no All good. I've enjoyed the watching the discussion.  To be honest I  didn't know very much about autogyros at all when I  started this.  Its all helped my understanding of them.
Title: Re: New Cap City Autogyro
Post by: Tophe on October 18, 2016, 12:27:07 PM
As far as I am concerned, I love a model that would be "technically wrong" but "aesthetically nice"... ;)
Title: Re: New Cap City Autogyro
Post by: CiTrus90 on October 19, 2016, 08:10:22 PM
Discovered, after I had finished the framework that the starboard side was at more of an angle the the port. and had to cut it off and re-position. Not 100% happy with it, but I'm not completely re-building.

It's a feature, clearly to counter some form of torque ;)

Love it, great work!