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Offline Volkodav

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Re: S-3 Viking
« Reply #25 on: October 30, 2013, 06:33:20 PM »
And now Korea is getting them for real, not to mention that the US is revisiting it as a tanker or COD platform.

Some of the banter around the Korean move has suggested it would be a good option for the RNZAF!

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Re: S-3 Viking
« Reply #26 on: October 30, 2013, 07:24:47 PM »
I thought they were being offered to the ROKN, not that the ROKN had adopted them.

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Re: S-3 Viking
« Reply #27 on: October 30, 2013, 08:14:10 PM »
Either or, this is a wiff site after all.  I had never considered South Korea as a real world operator and just the fact it is being considered is exciting, don't actually know where it is at.

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Re: S-3 Viking
« Reply #28 on: October 30, 2013, 08:35:22 PM »
I've seen the article, S. Korea is buying them and upgrading them as part of their extension of blue-water operations.  The same article also mentions they are looking small carriers along the lines of what Spain and Italy operate.  New Harrier potential whifs?

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Re: S-3 Viking
« Reply #29 on: October 30, 2013, 09:04:42 PM »
I've seen the article, S. Korea is buying them and upgrading them as part of their extension of blue-water operations.  The same article also mentions they are looking small carriers along the lines of what Spain and Italy operate.  New Harrier potential whifs?

Or F-35Bs, I wonder if it was the carrier plans that canned the F-15SE and got the F-135A back in the running?

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Re: S-3 Viking
« Reply #30 on: October 31, 2013, 02:35:42 AM »
And now Korea is getting them for real, not to mention that the US is revisiting it as a tanker or COD platform.

Some of the banter around the Korean move has suggested it would be a good option for the RNZAF!

From what I understand, Korea has not purchased them - their decision regarding MPAs isn't scheduled until 2016 I believe.  Supposedly though, Lockheed Martin has/is considering offering the refurbished S-3s (there are about 50 to 100 in the boneyard at Davis-Monthan).  This has been discussed before with other prospective customers.

Re a RNZDF purchase, I love the idea...though I doubt it would occur for real.  Not that that is a reason to not model/profile some... ;)
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Re: S-3 Viking
« Reply #31 on: October 31, 2013, 06:42:45 AM »
Or some for the RAN?  I wonder how they'd do with engine upgrades to match teh latest CF34 engines in commercial usage?

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Re: S-3 Viking
« Reply #32 on: October 31, 2013, 03:46:40 PM »
How about a post communist Cuba?
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Re: S-3 Viking
« Reply #33 on: October 31, 2013, 04:56:57 PM »
I just keep imagining an S-3 as a USN, USMC US Army and USAF persistent ISTAR / attack platform in use over Iraq and Afghanistan.  It could also be a dron controller in its own right using the drone and an extension of themselves.

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Re: S-3 Viking
« Reply #34 on: November 01, 2013, 01:51:42 AM »
could also be a dron controller in its own right using the drone and an extension of themselves.

Another damn fine idea!
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Re: S-3 Viking
« Reply #35 on: November 02, 2013, 04:42:52 AM »
Random Inspiring image:

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Re: S-3 Viking
« Reply #36 on: November 02, 2013, 04:44:22 AM »
I wonder if anyone would do a decal set for this one:

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Re: S-3 Viking
« Reply #37 on: November 04, 2013, 04:29:59 AM »
How about the competition? The Grumman S-4B Sentinel....  :)

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Re: S-3 Viking
« Reply #38 on: November 04, 2013, 04:55:16 AM »
Fine work there  :)
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Re: S-3 Viking
« Reply #39 on: November 04, 2013, 06:25:30 AM »
beautiful, indeed!
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Offline Daryl J.

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Re: S-3 Viking
« Reply #40 on: December 26, 2013, 08:17:49 AM »
It would be subtle, but I've thought of adding 1/2" to the fuselage both fore and aft the main wing and a set of winglets.
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Re: S-3 Viking
« Reply #41 on: December 26, 2013, 10:02:53 AM »
That sounds a good idea, I've always thought the S-3 looked as if it had run into a brick wall early in life.
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Re: S-3 Viking
« Reply #42 on: December 27, 2013, 12:29:01 AM »
Would be marching to the beat of his own drum, if he didn't detest marching to any drumbeat at all so much.

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Re: S-3 Viking
« Reply #43 on: December 27, 2013, 03:55:03 AM »
How about Boeing's joined wing concept http://crgis.ndc.nasa.gov/historic/File:1998-10-05_-_Boeing_EX_Surveillance_System_Concept.jpg?

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Definitely on the cards - I plan to use a ES-3 as a starting point.
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Re: S-3 Viking
« Reply #44 on: December 27, 2013, 07:47:55 AM »
How about Boeing's joined wing concept http://crgis.ndc.nasa.gov/historic/File:1998-10-05_-_Boeing_EX_Surveillance_System_Concept.jpg?

Martin


Definitely on the cards - I plan to use a ES-3 as a starting point.


I'd so Looove to see that!

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Re: S-3 Viking
« Reply #45 on: April 10, 2014, 09:20:07 PM »


Jalopnik - US-3 Viking COD Lockheed proposes rebuild of the S-3 and it looks pretty much like I had imagined it should look with the main landing gear moved into sponsons on either side of the fuselage :)

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Re: S-3 Viking
« Reply #46 on: April 11, 2014, 07:27:11 PM »


Jalopnik - US-3 Viking COD Lockheed proposes rebuild of the S-3 and it looks pretty much like I had imagined it should look with the main landing gear moved into sponsons on either side of the fuselage :)


So cool, hope it happens and that once the Viking is back in service someone clicks that it would still be a great ASW, ASuW, ISR and supplementary strike asset and swings a general return to service on the USNs now less crowded flight decks.  Maybe a restart of production once they run out of stored airframes and marketed globally as a tactical transport, tanker, MPA, ISR etc.

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Re: S-3 Viking
« Reply #47 on: April 12, 2014, 03:45:37 AM »
So cool, hope it happens and that once the Viking is back in service someone clicks that it would still be a great ASW, ASuW, ISR and supplementary strike asset and swings a general return to service on the USNs now less crowded flight decks.  Maybe a restart of production once they run out of stored airframes and marketed globally as a tactical transport, tanker, MPA, ISR etc.
Other possible variants if the US-3X does go into service, how about these two Viking variants?:

MUS-3X Viking SOLL (Special Operations [at] Low Level) equipped with for low-level flight with TFR and FLIR navigation aids for insertion and resupply of special operations forces.  Would be based on the US-3X with additional avionics for the SOLL mission. 

KS-3X Viking [dedicated] Tanker with internal tankage and two hose-drogue units under the wings. 
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Re: S-3 Viking
« Reply #48 on: April 12, 2014, 03:52:21 AM »
USMC tactical transport, also adopted by the Army.  New STOL wing developed for a completely new C-3 (C-28 or what ever) which sporns its own family of variants including ISR platforms, mini AEW and gunship.  ;D

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Re: S-3 Viking
« Reply #49 on: April 12, 2014, 11:11:25 AM »
Just read an article today about how the navy needs a new COD aircraft. Lengthen the fuselage and there you go. I know, makes too much sense.