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Modelling => Ideas & Inspiration => Aero-space => Topic started by: ysi_maniac on October 23, 2018, 09:59:21 AM

Title: WWII US minor fighters: P-64, P-66, ...
Post by: ysi_maniac on October 23, 2018, 09:59:21 AM
I have to confess that love these small -private- planes :-*
Torito: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_P-64 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_P-64)
Vanguard: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-66_Vanguard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-66_Vanguard)

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/246217-xotic-72-xk2030-north-american-p-64 (https://www.scalemates.com/kits/246217-xotic-72-xk2030-north-american-p-64)

https://www.scalemates.com/kits/169929-sword-sw-72002-vultee-p-66-vanguard (https://www.scalemates.com/kits/169929-sword-sw-72002-vultee-p-66-vanguard)
https://www.scalemates.com/kits/100585-az-model-az7261-vultee-p-66-vanguard (https://www.scalemates.com/kits/100585-az-model-az7261-vultee-p-66-vanguard)
Title: Re: WWII US minor fighters: P-64, P-66, ...
Post by: ysi_maniac on October 23, 2018, 10:31:57 AM

What if P-66 evolved into a serious Fighter?

Lets begin with Corsair fuselage and Zero wings and tail plane.

(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j340/ysi_maniac/ModellingProjects/P-66X/super_vanguard_01.jpeg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/ysi_maniac/media/ModellingProjects/P-66X/super_vanguard_01.jpeg.html)

(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j340/ysi_maniac/ModellingProjects/P-66X/super_vanguard_02.jpeg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/ysi_maniac/media/ModellingProjects/P-66X/super_vanguard_02.jpeg.html)

Maroon parts would need some scratch or further research. This way we get a Vanguard on steroids with a very powerful engine.
Title: Re: WWII US minor fighters: P-64, P-66, ...
Post by: Logan Hartke on October 23, 2018, 12:14:45 PM
That would be a great kitbash!

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: WWII US minor fighters: P-64, P-66, ...
Post by: elmayerle on October 23, 2018, 12:36:20 PM
P-64 with a R2600 or R2800 in the nose; might need the tail moved aft for weight and balance purposes.  Perhaps fit a derivative of a Mustang wing?
Title: Re: WWII US minor fighters: P-64, P-66, ...
Post by: ysi_maniac on October 26, 2018, 08:12:33 AM
... and, what if a more advanced wing, than that of Zero, for Super Vanguard?

(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j340/ysi_maniac/ModellingProjects/P-66X/super_vanguard_03.jpeg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/ysi_maniac/media/ModellingProjects/P-66X/super_vanguard_03.jpeg.html)

... Yes. It is suggested by Evan's comment a propos P-64.
Title: Re: WWII US minor fighters: P-64, P-66, ...
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 27, 2018, 02:35:27 AM
I do have one of these in the stash - was planning to do either as Swedish (they did order after all), or as Royal Netherlands East Indies Army Air Force or Australian.

(https://thumbs.worthpoint.com/wpimages/images/images1/1/0117/25/1_e43c26a6750f5bc208692ff1e4bb8228.jpg)
Title: Re: WWII US minor fighters: P-64, P-66, ...
Post by: ysi_maniac on May 18, 2020, 03:28:43 PM
Alternative to P-64

(https://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j340/ysi_maniac/Drawing/P64_T-6_allison.jpeg) (https://s1080.photobucket.com/user/ysi_maniac/media/Drawing/P64_T-6_allison.jpeg.html)
Title: Re: WWII US minor fighters: P-64, P-66, ...
Post by: robunos on May 19, 2020, 10:20:13 PM
... and, what if a more advanced wing, than that of Zero, for Super Vanguard?

([url]http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j340/ysi_maniac/ModellingProjects/P-66X/super_vanguard_03.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/ysi_maniac/media/ModellingProjects/P-66X/super_vanguard_03.jpeg.html[/url])

... Yes. It is suggested by Evan's comment a propos P-64.



How about this ?


http://voughtworks.blogspot.com/2013/12/f4u-low-drag-wing-study.html (http://voughtworks.blogspot.com/2013/12/f4u-low-drag-wing-study.html)


cheers,
Robin.
Title: Re: WWII US minor fighters: P-64, P-66, ...
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 20, 2020, 02:34:06 AM
[url]http://voughtworks.blogspot.com/2013/12/f4u-low-drag-wing-study.html[/url] ([url]http://voughtworks.blogspot.com/2013/12/f4u-low-drag-wing-study.html[/url])



That could be interesting to do.
Title: Re: WWII US minor fighters: P-64, P-66, ...
Post by: Jeffry Fontaine on May 20, 2020, 04:00:07 AM
The wings in that shared link look very similar to those of the F6F Hellcat.  Might be a good starting point for such a what-if.
Title: Re: WWII US minor fighters: P-64, P-66, ...
Post by: M.A.D on May 24, 2020, 08:02:34 AM
I understand and appreciate that the RAAF received and operated the Vultee P-66 Vanguard, but this wasn't until 1942, if my memory serves me correctly.
So, how about this as a scenario...not happy with the Brewster Buffalo pathetic performance, the RAAF rejects the British offer of this obvious second-rate fighter and instead opts for the Vultee V-48C Vanguard, which itself was being developed for Sweden. The Australian government concludes an emergency order with Vultee, if and only if they can expedite their delivery to Australia, to which Vultee is more than willing and able to do, with the notion that other air forces would follow Australia's lead.
The RAAF impressed enough with the Vanguard, coordinates with the Australian government to have Australian War Supplies Procurement office in Washington for the Licensed production of an improved Vanguard
Hence Australia negates the need and urgency of the CAC CA-12 Boomerang.....

M.A.D
Title: Re: WWII US minor fighters: P-64, P-66, ...
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 25, 2020, 03:00:58 AM
I understand and appreciate that the RAAF received and operated the Vultee P-66 Vanguard, but this wasn't until 1942, if my memory serves me correctly.


Not quite - see here (http://www.adf-serials.com/vanguard.htm)
Title: Re: WWII US minor fighters: P-64, P-66, ...
Post by: M.A.D on May 25, 2020, 05:07:10 AM
I understand and appreciate that the RAAF received and operated the Vultee P-66 Vanguard, but this wasn't until 1942, if my memory serves me correctly.


Not quite - see here ([url]http://www.adf-serials.com/vanguard.htm[/url])


Thanks for the clarification GTX
Still I like the notion 😉

MAD