P-51 Mustang and Derivates Ideas and Inspiration

[ysi_maniac]

Crossind late P-40 and early P-51

[The Big Gimper]

Found on Facebook.

F-82 Gun pod/pack

[The Big Gimper]

[Kerick]

Nice photos

[Jeffry Fontaine]

Still waiting for an injection moulded 1:48th scale Piper PA48...

[kitnut617]

Nice find Carl 

[elmayerle]

"Damn!!  That's enough to give an airplane a hernia!"

IIRC, the latest issue of Mustangs International has an article on the one and only RP-82B.  That would make an interesting conversion.

[Kerick]

Anyone ever see that gun pod in plastic or resin?

[The Big Gimper]

Anyone ever see that gun pod in plastic or resin?

The Facebook poster of these photo's asked the same question. Don't think it was made in any scale.

[kitnut617]

Anyone ever see that gun pod in plastic or resin?

The Facebook poster of these photo's asked the same question. Don't think it was made in any scale.

I've got some other photos of it and a drawing, so I started to scratch build one some years ago, but right now I can't find any of it (which is odd because I have my F-82 kits all to hand on my bench)

[Volkodav]

Can remember if I suggested this before or not, but an A-36B/C with 4x 20mm cannon plus RR Merlin.

[GTX_Admin]

F-82 Gun pod/pack

<TBG corrected the link> There's a recon pod version of this back at Reply # 17

[GTX_Admin]

More of the 40mm S-Gun trial:

[Volkodav]

Twin Mustang with a podded Molins gun in the center pod 

[kitnut617]

Or --- Twin Mustang with a M61   

[kitnut617]

More of the 40mm S-Gun trial:

A couple of my projects in the planning stage, is RAF F-82's armed with cannon, one with four 20mm's and the other with two 20mm's and two of those 40mm pods. I'm thinking all in or under the center wing section.

[GTX_Admin]

Given the Mustang Mk I entered service with the RAF in January 1942 and were soon transferred to Army Co-operation Command for tactical reconnaissance and ground-attack duties and given that the 40 mm cannon armed Hawker Hurricane Mk. IID saw service in North Africa around the same time, the following with 40mm guns is not too far fetched: 

[ChernayaAkula]

Twin Mustang with a podded Molins gun in the center pod 

... utilizing non-Meelin Mustangs! 

[Volkodav]

Didn't all Twin Mustangs have Allisons?

[perttime]

Didn't all Twin Mustangs have Allisons?

Not quite all.

"the first two prototype XP-82s as well as the next 20 P-82B models were powered by British-designed Rolls-Royce Merlin engines, re-engineered for increased durability and mass-production, and built under license by Packard."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_F-82_Twin_Mustang#Design_and_development

[kitnut617]

Didn't all Twin Mustangs have Allisons?

Not quite all.

"the first two prototype XP-82s as well as the next 20 P-82B models were powered by British-designed Rolls-Royce Merlin engines, re-engineered for increased durability and mass-production, and built under license by Packard."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_F-82_Twin_Mustang#Design_and_development

The Packard Merlins were slightly different to the RR Merlins, my Dad said they had to be particularly careful as some of the Lancasters used by 617 Sqn used both types, sometimes even on one aircraft.

My model though has RR Griffons and contra-props.

[ChernayaAkula]

Didn't all Twin Mustangs have Allisons?

Sorry. I suppose I could have worded my idea better.  I was hinting at a tank-busting Twin Mustang derived from the early Mustangs (Mustang Mk I/IA, Apache/Invader...). I said "Non-Merlin Mustang" and meant early Mustangs, as opposed to later Mustangs powered by licensed Merlins.

That said, I typed that answer while going all-out on a stationary bike at the gym. That's my excuse and I'm stickin' to it. 

I have two Italeri 1/72 "Mustang I Razorback" earmarked for such a what-if. Might not be just for tank-busting, but could also be useful for anti-shipping missions.

[elmayerle]

Hmm, suggests combining a late P-82/F-82 engine installation and cowling with a P-51H.  I could see this as rationalizing engine usage on a common engine.

[kitnut617]

Hmm, suggests combining a late P-82/F-82 engine installation and cowling with a P-51H.  I could see this as rationalizing engine usage on a common engine.

When I matched up a P-51H with the F-82, I found practically all of the fuselages matched, the lower edge of the F-82 cowling is the difference between the Allison installation and the Merlin's.

So I've used the P-51H cowling as a master and made some castings (middle pic).

But for my Griffon installation, I used a cowling from a Fairey Firefly Mk.V  (bottom pic)

[tankmodeler]

Wow, that Griffon Twin Mustang it really bitchin'! Would likely have made a really effective COIN light attack aircraft in the 50's-60's period.

Cavalier? We don't need no steeenkin' Cavalier!