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Title: Focke-Wulf Fw 200 Condor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on February 18, 2018, 03:18:09 AM
A thread for all your Focke-Wulf Fw 200 Condor Ideas and Inspiration

(http://www.warbirdphotographs.com/LCBW/FW200-C4-1.jpg)(https://i2.wp.com/historicalsocietyofgermanmilitaryhistory.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Focke-Wulf_Fw_200_Dania.jpg?w=640)
Title: Re: Focke-Wulf Fw 200 Condor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on February 18, 2018, 03:21:37 AM
To begin with, what about a version given the "XB-38" treatment and given four liquid cooled engines instead of the air cooled radials?  Maybe something from the Jumo 211 series or the DB601 series?
Title: Re: Focke-Wulf Fw 200 Condor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on February 18, 2018, 03:22:31 AM
I also have a plan for a version built in Australia under licence by CAC - initially as a civilian transport but later adapted for maritime patrol work.
Title: Re: Focke-Wulf Fw 200 Condor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: elmayerle on February 18, 2018, 07:09:10 AM
I also have a plan for a version built in Australia under licence by CAC - initially as a civilian transport but later adapted for maritime patrol work.
With developed versions powered by British or US radial engines built under license?
Title: Re: Focke-Wulf Fw 200 Condor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on February 19, 2018, 01:22:58 AM
Haven't decided.  I am bouncing between Wright Cyclones (similar to the Lockheed Hudson's used by the RAAF) or Pratt & Whitney R-1830 Twin Wasps (as also used on RAAF Beauforts).  I am tempted to give the maritime version a turret from a Hudson.
Title: Re: Focke-Wulf Fw 200 Condor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on February 19, 2018, 01:29:51 AM
That said, I am awfully tempted to do a civilian version in QANTAS scheme or similar:

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/93/69/d6/9369d673ca25cc1c961b23c4c5275ca2.jpg)
Title: Re: Focke-Wulf Fw 200 Condor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: ysi_maniac on February 19, 2018, 03:18:27 AM
Different sizes and engine amount.

(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j340/ysi_maniac/Drawing/fw200_2m.jpg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/ysi_maniac/media/Drawing/fw200_2m.jpg.html)

(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j340/ysi_maniac/Drawing/fw200_3m.jpg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/ysi_maniac/media/Drawing/fw200_3m.jpg.html)

(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j340/ysi_maniac/Drawing/fw200_5m.jpg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/ysi_maniac/media/Drawing/fw200_5m.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Focke-Wulf Fw 200 Condor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: ysi_maniac on February 19, 2018, 03:21:51 AM
4 engines: Thinking on first transcontinental non stop flights. More  than 24h long  :-* ...
2 engines: Some shortening

(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j340/ysi_maniac/Drawing/fw200_2tricycles.jpg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/ysi_maniac/media/Drawing/fw200_2tricycles.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Focke-Wulf Fw 200 Condor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on February 20, 2018, 01:47:38 AM
The twin engined version could be a development of the Fw206:

Title: Re: Focke-Wulf Fw 200 Condor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: ysi_maniac on February 20, 2018, 04:26:33 AM
^^^^^
Love the bus in this drawing, that has a nice model in 1/72 suggests a nice diorama. Fuel truck can be added.
Title: Re: Focke-Wulf Fw 200 Condor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: finsrin on February 20, 2018, 05:20:17 AM
All those engine variations are super.  Food for thought for a build.
Title: Re: Focke-Wulf Fw 200 Condor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Old Wombat on February 20, 2018, 07:35:35 AM
The twin engined version could be a development of the Fw206:

Looks a lot like a DC-3/C-47.
Title: Re: Focke-Wulf Fw 200 Condor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: jcf on February 20, 2018, 07:50:58 AM
The two Fw 200 KB-1 (Wn. 200-0009 and 200-0010) airliners for Finland were P&W powered, never delivered they
were used by DLH as Fw 200 D-1, D-AEQP Kurmark and D-AFST Westfalen respectively.

The three KC-1 for Japan were used as D-2a D-AWSK Rheinland, D-2b D-ACWG Holstein, D-2c D-AHML Pommern.

All of the KB and KC machines eventually ended up in Lutwaffe service.

The civil B/D series had the dual landing gear and engine installation (cowlings etc.) of the military variants.

(http://photos.smugmug.com/BTS-2/i-3X4K67x/0/5f3f96fc/O/FW200_BD_04.jpg)

(http://photos.smugmug.com/BTS-2/i-SnWqXpq/0/e1139a93/O/FW200_BD_01.jpg)

(http://photos.smugmug.com/BTS-2/i-sdZc6k9/0/ab594a8f/O/FW200_BD_02.jpg)

(http://photos.smugmug.com/BTS-2/i-3zqC7wN/0/f7538de4/O/FW200_BD_03.jpg)

Fw 200 L, proposed long-range airliner variant.
(http://photos.smugmug.com/BTS-2/i-SwHszcd/0/523bddcc/O/FW200_L_01.jpg)

Fw 300
(http://photos.smugmug.com/BTS-2/i-LFFvmBF/0/a622a046/L/FW300_01-L.jpg)
Title: Re: Focke-Wulf Fw 200 Condor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on February 21, 2018, 02:08:45 AM
Aerial Refuelled perhaps tanking Bf-109s with a wingtip probe?
Title: Re: Focke-Wulf Fw 200 Condor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Daryl J. on February 22, 2018, 06:53:14 AM
4 turboprops with counter-rotating fans.
Strengthened structurally virtually everywhere.
Aeroflot
Title: Re: Focke-Wulf Fw 200 Condor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: ysi_maniac on February 22, 2018, 11:48:32 AM
^^^^ :smiley: :smiley:
Title: Re: Focke-Wulf Fw 200 Condor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: elmayerle on February 22, 2018, 12:22:24 PM
An interesting challenge would be converting it to tricycle gear.
Title: Re: Focke-Wulf Fw 200 Condor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on February 23, 2018, 02:21:07 AM
FW200 being restored by Airbus (http://company.airbus.com/company/heritage/now-and-then/Days-of-the-Condor.html) -  I never knew the Boeing/Airbus 'war' was getting that serious... ;D
Title: Re: Focke-Wulf Fw 200 Condor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on February 23, 2018, 02:24:27 AM
Some real world 'oddities':

(http://img.wp.scn.ru/camms/ar/94/pics/24_1.jpg)
(http://img.wp.scn.ru/camms/ar/94/pics/5000_1_b1.jpg)
(http://img.wp.scn.ru/camms/ar/94/pics/5187_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Focke-Wulf Fw 200 Condor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: jcf on February 23, 2018, 04:48:44 AM
G-AGAY was Det Danske Luftfartselskab OY-DAM Dania, and OY-DEM Jutlandia,
ere painted in overall orange neutrality markings in 1940.
(http://scanair.no/wp/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/dania.jpg)

Syndicato Condor's other Fw 200 A-0 aircraft, PP-CBJ, Arumani was re-engined with Pratt & Whitney
engines in 1943.
Title: Re: Focke-Wulf Fw 200 Condor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: KiwiZac on March 07, 2018, 04:40:42 AM
The Spanish one is rather fetching, but

That said, I am awfully tempted to do a civilian version in QANTAS scheme or similar:

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/93/69/d6/9369d673ca25cc1c961b23c4c5275ca2.jpg)
How can one tempt you to do it? That would be beautiful, especially with new engines like Cyclones.
Title: Re: Focke-Wulf Fw 200 Condor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on February 02, 2022, 01:38:29 AM
Apparently Japan did want FW200s but events overtook this:

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/e68/GTwiner/fw200.jpg)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/e68/GTwiner/fw200_2.jpg)

CFBV

Further to above, the Japanese Navy were the first to request a military version of the Fw 200 for search and patrol duties, which led to Kurt Tank designing the Fw 200 V10 with military equipment. This Fw 200 was held in Germany because war had broken out in Europe by that time and became the basis for all later military models used by the Luftwaffe.
Title: Re: Focke-Wulf Fw 200 Condor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on February 02, 2022, 01:48:29 AM
I have plans to do a RAAF version some day with Wright R-1820s and the turret from a Lockheed Hudson and probably in scheme such as below:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/10/Lockheed_Hudson_III_Point_Cook_Vabre.jpg)
Title: Re: Focke-Wulf Fw 200 Condor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: The Big Gimper on February 11, 2022, 07:50:25 AM
A few more from John Lacey.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51874954680_d83a62b103_o.png) (https://flic.kr/p/2n31GJm)
Flygvapnet-FW-200-04 (https://flic.kr/p/2n31GJm) by Carl Wimmi (https://www.flickr.com/photos/153210713@N02/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51874312991_46945aa208_o.png) (https://flic.kr/p/2n2XpYK)
IJAAF-FW-200-01 (https://flic.kr/p/2n2XpYK) by Carl Wimmi (https://www.flickr.com/photos/153210713@N02/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51874389728_1e2b53db93_o.png) (https://flic.kr/p/2n2XNMN)
Czech-FW-200-03 (https://flic.kr/p/2n2XNMN) by Carl Wimmi (https://www.flickr.com/photos/153210713@N02/), on Flickr

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51874390038_612bde79c7_o.png) (https://flic.kr/p/2n2XNT9)
RoKAF-FW-200-02 (https://flic.kr/p/2n2XNT9) by Carl Wimmi (https://www.flickr.com/photos/153210713@N02/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Focke-Wulf Fw 200 Condor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: perttime on February 11, 2022, 11:57:44 AM
Diorama of Hitler's Condor hitting a smoke stack, on the way to meet Finland's CGE Mannerheim in 1942?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler_and_Mannerheim_recording

Some believed that exactly that almost happened, but most likely the pilot knew exactly what he was doing.
Title: Re: Focke-Wulf Fw 200 Condor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: raafif on January 18, 2023, 01:50:01 PM
Germany quickly discovers the advantage of high-bypass turbo fans ?
Title: Re: Focke-Wulf Fw 200 Condor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: ysi_maniac on January 20, 2023, 04:30:57 PM
 :D ;D
Title: Re: Focke-Wulf Fw 200 Condor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: RayS on January 21, 2023, 06:32:06 AM
That said, I am awfully tempted to do a civilian version in QANTAS scheme or similar:

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/93/69/d6/9369d673ca25cc1c961b23c4c5275ca2.jpg)

Ahhhh, yep. Though an earlier scheme
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49568413547_8c989118e2_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iwc5pM)

Oh, and I have built the cat as well
(https://live.staticflickr.com/4705/25784414548_34abbe61fd_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/FhtS8w)
Title: Re: Focke-Wulf Fw 200 Condor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: finsrin on January 21, 2023, 08:35:02 AM
Germany quickly discovers the advantage of high-bypass turbo fans ?

Nice.  Is a build if you are up to the cutting-filling-sanding and more PSR.
Title: Re: Focke-Wulf Fw 200 Condor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: elmayerle on January 21, 2023, 02:49:29 PM
A version built outside Germany after the war and powered by P&W engines, perhpas their R2180E?