Author Topic: Burnelli UB-38  (Read 36189 times)

Offline Tophe

  • He sees things in double...
  • twin-boom & asymmetric fan
    • my models
Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #50 on: August 25, 2013, 07:03:20 PM »
Pulse jets are not atomic engines, they may be closer to the pilot:

Offline Tophe

  • He sees things in double...
  • twin-boom & asymmetric fan
    • my models
Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #51 on: August 25, 2013, 09:36:26 PM »
Blohm und Voss licence-built the Burnelli Lightning, but with a difference:

Offline Tophe

  • He sees things in double...
  • twin-boom & asymmetric fan
    • my models
Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #52 on: August 25, 2013, 09:57:39 PM »
The UB-38BV-1 above found no purchaser, all customers being afraid of a flying-wing design and of a single asymmetric engine. Blohm und Voss thus designed the UB-38BV-2 below, still with Burnelli's aproval:

Offline Tophe

  • He sees things in double...
  • twin-boom & asymmetric fan
    • my models
Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #53 on: August 25, 2013, 10:20:43 PM »
For marketing reasons, the Blohm und Voss catalogue needed an UB-38BV-3 so it shoulda be designed:

Offline Tophe

  • He sees things in double...
  • twin-boom & asymmetric fan
    • my models
Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #54 on: August 26, 2013, 12:11:49 AM »
UB-38BV-4: the safest of all airplanes, with a mechanic to repair in flight all the engines

Offline Tophe

  • He sees things in double...
  • twin-boom & asymmetric fan
    • my models
Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #55 on: August 26, 2013, 12:22:26 AM »
UB-38BV-5:

Offline Tophe

  • He sees things in double...
  • twin-boom & asymmetric fan
    • my models
Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #56 on: August 26, 2013, 12:33:00 AM »
UB-38BV-6 push-pull:

Offline Tophe

  • He sees things in double...
  • twin-boom & asymmetric fan
    • my models
Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #57 on: August 29, 2013, 01:31:33 AM »
UB-38MI Mistel-Burnelli-Lightning:

Offline Tophe

  • He sees things in double...
  • twin-boom & asymmetric fan
    • my models
Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #58 on: August 30, 2013, 12:32:24 AM »
UB-38MI-2 simplified Mistel, with the component above being a simple lifting tank:

Offline Tophe

  • He sees things in double...
  • twin-boom & asymmetric fan
    • my models
Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #59 on: August 30, 2013, 12:17:59 PM »
Even more simplified, to show better the Burnelli-Lightning lines:

Offline Tophe

  • He sees things in double...
  • twin-boom & asymmetric fan
    • my models
Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #60 on: August 30, 2013, 07:20:51 PM »
UB-38BV-5B:

Offline Tophe

  • He sees things in double...
  • twin-boom & asymmetric fan
    • my models
Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #61 on: August 31, 2013, 02:52:41 AM »
Inspired by José Fern's topic http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=1715.120, here is another Burnelli Lightning:

Offline Tophe

  • He sees things in double...
  • twin-boom & asymmetric fan
    • my models
Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #62 on: August 31, 2013, 12:26:17 PM »
Without gun, the civilian UB-38U needed no long nose:

Offline Tophe

  • He sees things in double...
  • twin-boom & asymmetric fan
    • my models
Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #63 on: August 31, 2013, 01:31:42 PM »
The single-boom version of the Burnelli-Lightning may be asymmetric too:

Offline Tophe

  • He sees things in double...
  • twin-boom & asymmetric fan
    • my models
Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #64 on: August 31, 2013, 10:50:24 PM »
Top secret! The UB-38XYZ was the only propeller-driven airplane that reached 1000km/h in level flight. It used either 10 V-3420 engines or 20 V-1710 engines. A Burnelli fuselage was needed for fuel, everyone may understand why...

Offline Tophe

  • He sees things in double...
  • twin-boom & asymmetric fan
    • my models
Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #65 on: September 01, 2013, 11:15:35 PM »
This Lightning airliner is half devoted to passengers, half to engineers:

Offline Tophe

  • He sees things in double...
  • twin-boom & asymmetric fan
    • my models
Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #66 on: September 02, 2013, 12:50:11 AM »
A half-Burnelli Lightning:

Offline Weaver

  • Skyhawk stealer and violator of Panthers, with designs on a Cougar and a Tiger too
  • Chaos Engineer & Evangelistic Agnostic
Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #67 on: September 02, 2013, 03:55:36 AM »
Tophe, you're mad (but in a good way ;) ). :)
"I have described nothing but what I saw myself, or learned from others" - Thucydides

"I've jazzed mine up a bit" - Spike Milligan

"I'm a general specialist," - Harry Purvis in Tales from the White Hart by Arthur C. Clarke

Twitter: @hws5mp
Minds.com: @HaroldWeaverSmith

Offline Tophe

  • He sees things in double...
  • twin-boom & asymmetric fan
    • my models
Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #68 on: September 03, 2013, 01:02:43 AM »
Thanks a lot Weaver, I will tell that to my psychiatrist... ;)

And still with my son's colouring, here is the UB-38NF Night-Fighter 1936 (before radar was invented, night interceptors had to circle for very long flights with many eyes trying to discover something...)

Which one(s) should I present as final entry (ies)?

Offline raafif

  • Is formally accused of doing nasty things to DC-3s...and officially our first whiffing zombie
  • Whiffing Insane
Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #69 on: September 03, 2013, 06:17:54 AM »
that last one needs the outer-cockpit noses to be the same as the center one  :)

You still haven't done one with inter-meshing prop-blades >:D

Offline Weaver

  • Skyhawk stealer and violator of Panthers, with designs on a Cougar and a Tiger too
  • Chaos Engineer & Evangelistic Agnostic
Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #70 on: September 03, 2013, 08:59:08 AM »
As the foreplane denied the "flying wing" name on the UB-38K, we coulda/woulda/shoulda add fins for better control: UB-38L




If this one had the tail fins back on the ends of the booms it would be pretty cool and almost believable... ;)
"I have described nothing but what I saw myself, or learned from others" - Thucydides

"I've jazzed mine up a bit" - Spike Milligan

"I'm a general specialist," - Harry Purvis in Tales from the White Hart by Arthur C. Clarke

Twitter: @hws5mp
Minds.com: @HaroldWeaverSmith

Offline Tophe

  • He sees things in double...
  • twin-boom & asymmetric fan
    • my models
Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #71 on: September 03, 2013, 11:27:16 AM »
Thanks Raafif and Weaver.

that last one needs the outer-cockpit noses to be the same as the center one  :)
This one is easy to "correct" in a shoulda improvement... (I will work on other suggestions today)

Offline Tophe

  • He sees things in double...
  • twin-boom & asymmetric fan
    • my models
Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #72 on: September 03, 2013, 12:41:17 PM »
As the foreplane denied the "flying wing" name on the UB-38K, we coulda/woulda/shoulda add fins for better control: UB-38L
If this one had the tail fins back on the ends of the booms it would be pretty cool and almost believable... ;)
So here are the famous UB-38W-1 and W-2, result of Burnelli/Weaver cooperation...:

Offline Tophe

  • He sees things in double...
  • twin-boom & asymmetric fan
    • my models
Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #73 on: September 03, 2013, 03:05:35 PM »
You still haven't done one with inter-meshing prop-blades >:D
Now this is serious historical facts, I shoulda stop colouring madly... You are obviously referring to the secret UB-38RAA-1 (and -2 and -3), ordered by the RAAF in 1937 and cancelled in 1938 after propeller damage during ground testing:

Offline Tophe

  • He sees things in double...
  • twin-boom & asymmetric fan
    • my models
Re: Burnelli UB-38
« Reply #74 on: September 03, 2013, 03:49:15 PM »
Of course, 1938's engineers understood that intermeshing propellers must be driven by a single engine. But could I reveal the UB-38RAA-4 (and -5 and -6), top secret, that saved Australia from invasion? Well, maybe in 2013 we should do it, let's go:
(the UB-38RAA-6 is a twin-engined plane, with its port engine driving the push-propellers and its starboard engine driving the pull-propellers)