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Re: Logan's Profiles - Japanese A9He1-N "Wade" Floatplane
« Reply #250 on: December 09, 2012, 11:26:59 AM »
I've always loved that particular cartoon.  It's right up there with "What's Opera Doc?" on my all-time favorites list.

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Re: Logan's Profiles - Japanese A9He1-N "Wade" Floatplane
« Reply #251 on: December 09, 2012, 11:54:40 PM »
Logan, I think one of your rivets needed to be rotated 10 degrees.  ;D    This is looking mighty fine!  :-*
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Re: Logan's Profiles - Japanese A9He1-N "Wade" Floatplane
« Reply #252 on: December 10, 2012, 05:30:14 AM »
Clockwise...not counter-clockwise... ;)
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Re: Logan's Profiles - Japanese A9He1-N "Wade" Floatplane
« Reply #253 on: December 10, 2012, 07:35:22 AM »
They're also about 0.25mm too big, please re-scale immediately  >:(

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Re: Logan's Profiles - Japanese A9He1-N "Wade" Floatplane
« Reply #254 on: December 11, 2012, 05:52:14 AM »
They're also about 0.25mm too big, please re-scale immediately...

Yeah but has any rivet experten actually counted them all yet?  >:D
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Re: Logan's Profiles - Japanese A9He1-N "Wade" Floatplane
« Reply #255 on: December 11, 2012, 04:21:29 PM »
Nah!  We don't count rivets here...criticise the size, shape, orientation, yes.  But count?  No!
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Re: Logan's Profiles - Japanese A9He1-N "Wade" Floatplane
« Reply #256 on: December 12, 2012, 01:58:22 AM »
43,211, 43,212, 43,213, 43umm...awwwwww nuts!




1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8......



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Offline Logan Hartke

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Re: Logan's Profiles - Japanese A9He1-N "Wade" Floatplane
« Reply #257 on: December 12, 2012, 02:05:56 PM »
Yeah but has any rivet experten actually counted them all yet?  >:D


Oh please, nobody had better.  There's a number of areas where I know for a fact they're wrong.  Thankfully I also know that there's not too many souls that are intrepid (or masochistic) enough to prove it!

Likewise, when I reduce it to the 25% or so that it will be displayed at, you'll not be able to make any of them out, but they'll definitely influence the eventual look of the profile regardless.





Anyway, I am on the home stretch at this point.  As long as I can find Howland, I shouldn't have any issue.  I need to do one more line of rivets on the back edge of the tail, the ~40 or so cluster of rivets around each(!) of the round panels on the aircraft, some rudder detail, the fabric rudder covering (and associated lighting/shading), the lighting/shading on the tail & rudder, the natural metal finish panels on the boom & tail, and finally the lighting & shading of the rivets on the boom.  That may sound like a lot, but it should only be another week or two.  I'm still on track for the Clear Your Bench GB, but we'll see if I can do it without an extension or not!

Cheers,

Logan

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Re: Logan's Profiles - Japanese A9He1-N "Wade" Floatplane
« Reply #258 on: December 13, 2012, 01:13:12 PM »
I got more done tonight than I thought I would.

    I need to do:

    • one more line of rivets on the back edge of the tail
    • the ~40 or so cluster of rivets around each(!) of the round panels on the aircraft
    • some rudder detail
    • the fabric rudder covering (and associated lighting/shading)
    • the lighting/shading on the tail & rudder
    • the natural metal finish panels on the boom & tail
    • and finally the lighting & shading of the rivets on the boom

    Mainly it's just the rudder I have left.  Fortunately it won't be as complex as I originally feared.  A lot of the detailed (rivets, etc) was all covered by fabric.  Another night or two, then the additional detail on the tail and rudder.



    Thanks,

    Logan

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    Re: Logan's Profiles - Japanese A9He1-N "Wade" Floatplane
    « Reply #259 on: December 14, 2012, 03:26:20 PM »
    That's a lot of work Logan, it's very nice to see how it evolves. For someone doing such a tremendous job, we say in Dutch "Petje af" or in plain English 'Caps off'. Good work  :)

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    Re: Logan's Profiles - Japanese A9He1-N "Wade" Floatplane
    « Reply #260 on: December 16, 2012, 12:30:48 PM »
    'Cap off' indeed. Go Logan!
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    Re: Logan's Profiles - Japanese A9He1-N "Wade" Floatplane
    « Reply #261 on: December 16, 2012, 05:03:23 PM »
    Logan,
    Last night I dowloaded a "Logan A-39" mix of P-51 and A-26... I don't find it anymore. Did I dream? It was beautiful, thanks anyway... :-*

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    Re: Logan's Profiles - Japanese A9He1-N "Wade" Floatplane
    « Reply #262 on: December 16, 2012, 09:26:16 PM »
    You got it off a post on the What If Forums.  I plan to repost all my old stuff on here someday when I hit the doldrums and don't feel like profiling for a little while.  Anyway, I'll repost it below so you can find it next time you look for it.   ;)



    This is an old design that I drew years ago.  It's on lined paper because I drew them in a boring meeting or lecture to keep me from going to sleep.  I called it the North American A-39...something.  I had a nickname for it at one time, but I don't remember what it was.  Stallion, I think?  It's basically a mental kitbash of two of my favorite late-war American aircraft, the P-51 and the A-26.  It trades speed for payload.

    Cheers,

    Logan

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    Re: Logan's Profiles - Japanese A9He1-N "Wade" Floatplane
    « Reply #263 on: December 16, 2012, 11:39:01 PM »
    Thanks a lot: as beautiful than in my nightime dreams... :-*
    Thanks again, and congratulations!

    Re: Logan's Profiles - Japanese A9He1-N "Wade" Floatplane
    « Reply #264 on: December 17, 2012, 06:58:21 AM »
    I really like that A-39!

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    Re: Logan's Profiles - Japanese A9He1-N "Wade" Floatplane
    « Reply #265 on: December 17, 2012, 08:27:27 AM »
    Me too! And, for a second there, I thought the lined paper rules were panel lines  ;D
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    Offline Logan Hartke

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    Re: Logan's Profiles - Japanese A9He1-N "Wade" Floatplane
    « Reply #266 on: December 17, 2012, 12:22:52 PM »
    Thanks, guys!  It's an oldie but a goodie.  The P-51 generally makes Whifs look pretty good if you use it as a starting point.  You're welcome to take the idea and run with it if you want.  I have too much on my plate to do a high-quality version.

    Cheers,

    Logan

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    Re: Logan's Profiles - Japanese A9He1-N "Wade" Floatplane
    « Reply #267 on: December 17, 2012, 12:44:34 PM »
    I used it as starting point, thanks, while... on the opposite direction as the panel-lines direction that you call high-quality, I prefer imagining many simplified silhouettes.
    Thanks again for this enrichment to my P-51 collection!

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    Re: Logan's Profiles - Japanese A9He1-N "Wade" Floatplane
    « Reply #268 on: December 17, 2012, 01:21:52 PM »
    The LH-51D really jumps out at me!
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    Re: Logan's Profiles - Japanese A9He1-N "Wade" Floatplane
    « Reply #269 on: December 18, 2012, 02:48:26 AM »
    Me too. Although the LH-51D-2 might be easier to model?
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    Re: Logan's Profiles - Japanese A9He1-N "Wade" Floatplane
    « Reply #270 on: December 18, 2012, 07:15:45 AM »
    I think modelling Logan's A-39 is possible with black canopies and a P-51B basis. It would be a hard job with clear canopies... But anyway, thanks Logan to make us dream. :)

    Offline Logan Hartke

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    Re: Logan's Profiles - Japanese A9He1-N "Wade" Floatplane
    « Reply #271 on: December 18, 2012, 08:11:39 AM »
    I'm glad you guys liked it.  My goal was to change the basic look by giving it that thicker center section, yet keep some of the P-51's good looks.  You could even do a twin fuselage bomber variant somewhat like a Kestrel from Crimson Skies, too.



    Cheers,

    Logan

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    Re: Logan's Profiles - Japanese A9He1-N "Wade" Floatplane
    « Reply #272 on: December 18, 2012, 11:21:27 AM »
    Awwww man, I love the Crimson Skies aircraft and all the inspiration they create! I wish they had made models from the game.
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    Offline Logan Hartke

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    Re: Logan's Profiles - Japanese A9He1-N "Wade" Floatplane
    « Reply #273 on: December 19, 2012, 02:52:35 PM »
    Quick update, though nothing to look at right now.  Most of the rudder detail is done, the only real things I have left are the details of the cutouts.  Then I need to relight and shade the tail with an emphasis on the rudder.  Finally, I'll have to redo the NMF on everything that isn't the fuselage.  Rudder detail should be a one night job, redone tail lighting probably another three nights, then the NMF will take a couple of nights, likely.  In short, I'll probably need at least a week to finish this up, maybe longer.

    Cheers,

    Logan

    Offline Logan Hartke

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    Re: Logan's Profiles - Japanese A9He1-N "Wade" Floatplane
    « Reply #274 on: December 20, 2012, 02:51:48 PM »
    Alright, well I got more done tonight than I expected to.  It went easier than I had feared.

    That's easy!


    The only major two things left are to redo the lighting and shading on the tail, then do the NMF panels on the entire boom.  The first one of those things is probably the more difficult task, but the second will probably take longer.  Oh, and the I need to add the rivet dimples, but that should be one of the last things I need to do.  Anyway, I hope you like where it is.  I thought you may want to see another preview.



    Cheers,

    Logan