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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #175 on: October 08, 2016, 02:54:35 AM »
Agree re id of target tank.  I guess they would have had access to a few.  Would be interesting to know if they used any Panthers or Tigers as targets too.
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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #176 on: January 07, 2017, 04:32:42 AM »


Syrian t-62(?) found on Facebook
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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #177 on: January 07, 2017, 04:39:17 AM »
T-72s, I think.

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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #178 on: January 07, 2017, 04:41:06 AM »
Indeed - see below:



More details here

Note also that similar has done to other vehicles as well:

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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #179 on: January 07, 2017, 04:51:01 AM »
I'm sure it's well worth it, but that solution has to have deleterious effects on the vehicle suspension and drivetrain.

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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #180 on: January 07, 2017, 12:13:56 PM »
It depends, though bar armour was originally steel it was determined that aluminium actually worked just as well against most threats so it may not be as heavy as it looks.

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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #181 on: January 07, 2017, 04:28:49 PM »
What exactly is it? a lightish outer barrier that makes the warhead go off further away from the hull?
One photo looks as if there's concrete blocks inside the cage.

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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #182 on: January 08, 2017, 03:08:34 AM »
The blog article that I linked to only said "consists of spaced and slat armour".
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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #183 on: January 08, 2017, 03:17:51 AM »
Speaking of T-72s in Syria, get a load of these:

This one looks to have wood on the turret:



What about some rocks/rubble:



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« Reply #184 on: January 08, 2017, 03:22:31 AM »
How about a couple of interesting paint schemes:


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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #185 on: January 08, 2017, 03:29:06 AM »
Modified T-55s:






And yet another modified T-72:




Supposedly, this last one has an entire female crew.
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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #186 on: January 08, 2017, 04:18:54 AM »
For some reason the last one as well as Reply #176 give off a "faux Leopard 2" vibe to me......  ;D
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« Reply #187 on: January 15, 2017, 05:08:19 PM »
I would like to to bring to your attention this again:

http://tankarchives.blogspot.ca/2013/04/bovington-t-34-and-kv-1-impressions.html

As I go about my GB project, I have this question- the KV-1 has its driver located along the centreline, but the T-34 has its driver offset to the left.  If the T-34 was to be licence-built in Britiain, would the driver's seat have been mirrored to the right like most British tanks of the era as far as I am aware of, or would such an exercise have been deemed an unnecessary hassle?

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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #188 on: January 15, 2017, 09:04:48 PM »
I would like to to bring to your attention this again:

http://tankarchives.blogspot.ca/2013/04/bovington-t-34-and-kv-1-impressions.html

As I go about my GB project, I have this question- the KV-1 has its driver located along the centreline, but the T-34 has its driver offset to the left.  If the T-34 was to be licence-built in Britiain, would the driver's seat have been mirrored to the right like most British tanks of the era as far as I am aware of, or would such an exercise have been deemed an unnecessary hassle?

Thanks in advance.


The British accepted left-hand drivers in their American vehicles.  If they were to produce the tanks themselves, they may decide to change the design to right-hand drivers but I doubt it, because of the delay in doing so.

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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #189 on: January 16, 2017, 02:30:55 AM »
When the Germans upgraded the Czech Panzer 38(t) to make the Jagdpanzer 38 (Hetzer) they moved the driver from the right side (38(t) to the left, to accommodate the gun. If you look at the 38(t) it doesn't seem like a big change - just flip the controls.

In the T-34, the swap also looks simple, except that the driver's right arm and leg would be crammed right next to the suspension springs. A British T-34 would have probably left the driver position as is.





OTOH, it could use the same driver controls as the A-34 Comet, which was a Christie suspension tank and also had a RHD. The driver compartment was pretty cramped, though:


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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #190 on: January 16, 2017, 05:48:48 AM »
Hum......



In addition to the question of mirroring the driver, now that I come to think about it...... who controls that mini-turret on top of the main gun turret?

If that mini-turret is the loader's position, then I'll have to find another place for that rangefinder ......

...... if I can......
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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #191 on: January 16, 2017, 06:54:08 AM »
How about a couple of interesting paint schemes:




... and the look of those guys  :o

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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #192 on: January 16, 2017, 07:21:23 AM »

... and the look of those guys  :o

These guys are part of the Syrian revival of "The Three Stooges". The guy in the front is Moe (as in "Mohamed"). So is the guy in the driver's seat. No one wants to be Larry or Curly and it's a problem.

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« Reply #193 on: January 16, 2017, 05:11:09 PM »
 ;D
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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #194 on: April 16, 2017, 05:24:21 AM »
North Korean Pokpung-ho IV(?) derivative of T-72:

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« Reply #195 on: April 16, 2017, 05:32:55 AM »
North Korean Pokpung-ho IV(?) derivative of T-72:



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« Reply #196 on: April 18, 2017, 02:17:59 AM »
North Korean Pokpung-ho IV(?) derivative of T-72......


Pokpung-Ho still seems to me like it is based on a stretched T-62 chassis.  T-72 would seem somewhat even lower.

The mounting for the sensor on that MANPADS post seems fragile but appears to be the best position for a commander's camera, given what else's on the turret.

Pokpung-Ho IV is said to be an upgrade programme for the 115mm-gun-armed Pokpung-Ho I.  It seems that only tanks armed with 2A20 and derivative (one rechambered to 125mm is said to have existed) are equipped with ATGM launchers.  Songun-Ho, which is almost certainly armed with a more-refined 125mm gun (could even be a 2A46 copy), is only seen additionally armed with a MANPADS pintle post.

(The museum display Songun-Ho also has the ATGM launchers.  I can't tell from the picture if this particular specimen carries the rechambered 2A20 or the 2A46 look-alike, however.)
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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #197 on: April 18, 2017, 05:07:35 AM »
Lot of interesting details on that tank  O0
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Re: Soviet/Russian Tank and derivatives Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #198 on: May 12, 2017, 11:41:17 PM »
This weekend, Brno is being visited by the pink IS-2 that usually calls the Military Technical Musem at Lešany home:



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« Reply #199 on: May 13, 2017, 01:17:02 AM »
They need to touch up the bit of rust on the left-hand side under the flowers. ;)
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