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Modelling => Completed GBs => Group and Themed Builds => Scifi and related GB => Topic started by: Tophe on February 01, 2016, 11:37:20 PM

Title: Future Lightnings and Twin-Mustangs
Post by: Tophe on February 01, 2016, 11:37:20 PM: Lightnings of the 22nd century (after the legend of Jesus Christ).

First for another planet, with mind power (no need of engine). The last one is a push-pull going back and forth at will:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/P38eclairM_adw.jpg)

Then for the Earth with atmosphere, using a vacuum engine pulling the aircraft. The last one is a push-pull asymmetric machine.
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/P38eclairM_adx.jpg)
Title: Re: Future Lightnings and Twin-Mustangs
Post by: taiidantomcat on February 02, 2016, 08:23:44 AM: I like the "cloud car" P-38
Title: Re: Future Lightnings and Twin-Mustangs
Post by: apophenia on February 04, 2016, 01:23:19 PM: And the push-pull is great! ;D
Title: Re: Future Lightnings and Twin-Mustangs
Post by: Tophe on February 05, 2016, 02:05:55 AM: Thanks, both of you. Do you have other ideas I could illustrate? (I plan to draw wingless Twin-Mustangs but I have not many ideas otherwise).
Title: Re: Future Lightnings and Twin-Mustangs
Post by: abtex on February 05, 2016, 12:40:41 PM: (http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/P38eclairM_adu.jpg)
You could mix and match, the Cloud cars with upper wings. like Macross Fighters
The cockpits on the Wings could be larger or two seater. Maybe like a F-1 Race car, box like cabin, on bottom (or top) and canopy centered (off to one side or even on the side).
Side cockpits. like the Blohm und Voss P.194 or P 168
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/334814553519942929/ (https://www.pinterest.com/pin/334814553519942929/) or https://www.pinterest.com/pin/331296116318354208/ (https://www.pinterest.com/pin/331296116318354208/)
Glazed nosed fronts on either Wing or Cloud Car.
Reduce the Wing length, Stubbie ones "Because No One can hear glide in Space"
Wings can be Wrap around or box like 'Last StarFighter'
Add some SciFi looking features (antennas, seating for Droids, long boons )
Looks and types could be mission based.
Title: Re: Future Lightnings and Twin-Mustangs
Post by: Tophe on February 05, 2016, 01:53:41 PM: Thanks for these many ideas, I will try to follow them.
Thanks again! ;)
Title: Re: Future Lightnings and Twin-Mustangs
Post by: Tophe on February 06, 2016, 01:36:47 AM: Here are Lightning dérivatives of the Cloud Car and Tie-Fighter.
For the asymmetric ones, I may work on them soon, thanks again!
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/P38eclairM_aed.jpg)
Title: Re: Future Lightnings and Twin-Mustangs
Post by: abtex on February 06, 2016, 04:18:44 PM: For some different TIE Fighters and craft base on them:
http://i.imgur.com/qG4lpz3.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/qG4lpz3.jpg)
Title: Re: Future Lightnings and Twin-Mustangs
Post by: Tophe on February 06, 2016, 05:40:27 PM: Thanks again for this very precious source, giving many ideas... ;)

EDIT: here are some more, dealing with asymmetry and TIE dérivatives:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/P38eclairM_aee.jpg)
Title: Re: Future Lightnings and Twin-Mustangs
Post by: ericr on February 07, 2016, 06:17:16 AM: :)
Title: Re: Future Lightnings and Twin-Mustangs
Post by: abtex on February 07, 2016, 06:14:30 PM: I am going to stop doing this :-[
[Sorry if I am repeating things.]
Have you even seen the P-38M, Night Fighter two seater with a bubble for the backseat
(http://olive-drab.com/images/id_fighters_p38_01_700.jpg)

Nosejobs like the Pathfinder that look like someone put a soup can on the cockpit's nose and added windows.
(http://www.airvectors.net/avp38_2_02.png)

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_P-38_Lightning (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_P-38_Lightning)
Quote
A P-38L was modified by Hindustan Aeronautics in India as a fast VIP transport, with a comfortable seat in the nose, leather-lined walls, accommodations for refreshments and a glazed nose to give the passenger a spectacular view.

A different way to carry extra passengers, looks like a Med-vac option:
(http://theaviationist.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/F-5-casevac-1.jpg)
(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/Photos%20Three/F-5-casevac-44_zpsabcceecf.jpg~original)
"Want to go for a Ride?" :-\

Here a different one:
(http://www.456fis.org/THE%20P-38/sword.jpg)

Could also use the P-38 kin - XP-49 and 'Big Brother' XP-58.
If you want to increase the cockpit size, a little. Even up to large flying boat size. For multi deck version.
Title: Re: Future Lightnings and Twin-Mustangs
Post by: Tophe on February 09, 2016, 02:53:00 AM: You know, most of existing versions are already in my collection at http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/#Sit (http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/#Sit)
but I am still willing to add inventions of us ;)
Title: Re: Future Lightnings and Twin-Mustangs
Post by: abtex on February 09, 2016, 11:29:54 AM: Like I said,
Quote from: abtex on February 07, 2016, 06:14:30 PM
I am going to stop doing this :-[
[Sorry if I am repeating things.]
I well let the Master work.
Title: Re: Future Lightnings and Twin-Mustangs
Post by: Tophe on February 09, 2016, 01:48:22 PM: Sorry I don't understand your words... ???
I am not a Professional designer, just someone having fun, and you are not Masters also if you don't draw/paint yourself. I see no Master, but I see fun, and this is enough and good ;)
Title: Re: Future Lightnings and Twin-Mustangs
Post by: Tophe on February 13, 2016, 03:47:31 PM: The title announced future Twin-Mustangs, here is the first one:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/P82-51C3_fz.jpg)
Title: Re: Future Lightnings and Twin-Mustangs
Post by: Tophe on February 13, 2016, 04:02:22 PM: Quote from: Tophe on February 13, 2016, 03:47:31 PM
The title announced future Twin-Mustangs, here is the first one:
The Twin-Mustang+ was also known as Triple-Mustang:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/P82-51C3_ga.jpg)
Title: Re: Future Lightnings and Twin-Mustangs
Post by: Tophe on February 13, 2016, 05:50:55 PM: A few centuries before, the Twin-Mustangs were powered by rocket "engines" (old way):
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/P82-51C3_gb.jpg)
Title: Re: Future Lightnings and Twin-Mustangs
Post by: ysi_maniac on February 13, 2016, 09:16:55 PM: Love these Rocket Mustangs! :) :)
Title: Re: Future Lightnings and Twin-Mustangs
Post by: Steve Blazo on February 13, 2016, 11:35:19 PM: Nice work. I like the TIE fighters, those look cool.
Title: Re: Future Lightnings and Twin-Mustangs
Post by: Tophe on February 17, 2016, 01:05:07 PM: Thanks! :)

And now Lightning Rocket Spacecraft:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/P38eclairM_aek.jpg)
Title: Re: Future Lightnings and Twin-Mustangs
Post by: Tophe on February 20, 2016, 07:18:36 PM: On the Earth little planet, the UNO law of April 1st 2099 made illegal the high-altitude airplane polluting the skies, and only WIG aircraft were allowed anymore. One of them was a Lightning of course:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/Tophe2712/2015/P38eclairM_aem_zpsqny0pbzj.jpg)
Title: Re: Future Lightnings and Twin-Mustangs
Post by: abtex on February 27, 2016, 02:27:12 PM: It's not a Lightnings and Twin-Mustangs, but you could use this (or something like it):
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/Tophe2712/2015/Airacuda_ak_zpsry1n4rjb.jpg)

to make something like
(http://www.francescofrancavilla.com/images/blog/buck_rogers_blog_b.jpg)
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3397/4616886576_fe8ab1d188_b.jpg)
Buck Rodgers in the 1930s
Title: Re: Future Lightnings and Twin-Mustangs
Post by: Tophe on February 28, 2016, 03:12:35 AM: Yes, of course I could ;)
Title: Re: Future Lightnings and Twin-Mustangs
Post by: abtex on February 28, 2016, 01:15:06 PM: Looks very nice :)

If possible, bigger like an airliner or cargo plane. A couple of deck thick. Windows and doors, maybe.
The interwar French bombers -- herehttp://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=6126.msg103877#msg103877 (http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=6126.msg103877#msg103877) have that look.
Title: Re: Future Lightnings and Twin-Mustangs
Post by: Tophe on February 29, 2016, 01:09:19 AM: I try: (Interwar version of the 2030s):
Title: Re: Future Lightnings and Twin-Mustangs
Post by: abtex on March 07, 2016, 11:55:55 PM: Thanks, Looks great.
Title: Re: Future Lightnings and Twin-Mustangs
Post by: Tophe on March 09, 2016, 01:05:02 PM: Quote from: abtex on February 27, 2016, 02:27:12 PM
Buck Rodgers in the 1930s
Yes, sci-fi includes "past science-fiction", "retro-future", as the Lightning of year 2000, now past but seen as very distant future from 1944 artists (years before the Yak-28 came actually):
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/Tophe2712/2015/P38eclairM_afj_zps8xqv6ifs.jpg)
Title: Re: Future Lightnings and Twin-Mustangs
Post by: Camthalion on March 10, 2016, 05:48:18 PM: Some nice work there
Title: Re: Future Lightnings and Twin-Mustangs
Post by: Tophe on March 11, 2016, 02:20:54 AM: Thanks! while this is not "work" but just "fun", as most of sci-fi ;)
Title: Re: Future Lightnings and Twin-Mustangs
Post by: Tophe on March 12, 2016, 01:51:49 PM: Science-Fiction in Moscow 1944: "the so glorious Red Army will not stop in Berlin but go on to Paris, to New York, and with its Tween-Moostangs, will continue to Los Angeles and stop in Hawaii, Pearl Harbour as Final Victory!":
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/P82-51C3_gp.jpg)
Title: Re: Future Lightnings and Twin-Mustangs
Post by: Tophe on March 12, 2016, 04:02:45 PM: Quote from: Tophe on March 12, 2016, 01:51:49 PM
Science-Fiction in Moscow 1944: "the so glorious Red Army will not stop in Berlin but go on to Paris, to New York, and with its Tween-Moostangs, will continue to Los Angeles and stop in Hawaii, Pearl Harbour as Final Victory!":
In a more distant future, say "near 1950", the Tween-Moostang-II will be even more performing:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/P82-51C3_gq.jpg)
Title: Re: Future Lightnings and Twin-Mustangs
Post by: Tophe on March 13, 2016, 05:54:30 PM: The future Messiah (the true one) being a chicken, there will be a mandatory need to celebrate the Egg instead of the Cross! (no matter aerodynamics):
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/P38eclairN_aac.jpg)