Author Topic: Constellightning and others (Read 33961 times)

Tophe · « **Reply #50 on:** August 29, 2014, 11:34:20 AM »

Thanks Brian!
Now a Lightning of General Aviation ("Aviation de tourisme" in French) with easy access on board (door/stairs going down to the ground) and STOL performance (from the sloping wing and propellers on the ground):

Tophe · « **Reply #51 on:** August 30, 2014, 03:46:07 PM »

Well, you could say this model above is rather far from a (standard) Lightning. But, then, what would you say of the single-engine derivative, and its canard version?

Tophe · « **Reply #52 on:** August 31, 2014, 02:42:12 PM »

In 1944, Bing Crosby was the most famous singer in the US, almost "the king" (years before Elvis), alas he was killed by a propeller blade hurting the fuselage of its airliner in flight after an engine failure, even with no crash at all, and many US civilians feared to go on traveling by plane, as murdering as war, almost (according to the news)... Thus the Lockeed team designed airliners of a new kind: with safe ducted propellers... This has been forgotten today because jet aircraft have made this way so popular...

Tophe · « **Reply #53 on:** August 31, 2014, 03:21:15 PM »

So, with my home time machine, I went back to show the designers of that time our giant turbofans... They laughed and designed this PW-38TF airliner below, then they call for a psychiatric ambulance and I run away... I was too much ahead of that time...

Brian da Basher · « **Reply #54 on:** August 31, 2014, 06:10:45 PM »

I really like these fanned versions, Tophe! The Bing Crosby story is interesting to think about. At least that might've saved me suffering through his Minute Maid Orange Juice commercials...

Call me crazy, but I could see both of the concepts taking flight, but I imagine F.O.D. issues would be quite challenging for the last one, which only ups the delightful whimsy factor in my view!

Brian da Basher

Tophe · « **Reply #55 on:** August 31, 2014, 06:54:28 PM »

About funny things, see what I have found trying to understand your F.O.D. acronym:

I think this is the Foreign Object Damage one but the other readings of your sentence are delightful too. Thanks!

Tophe · « **Reply #56 on:** August 31, 2014, 07:34:01 PM »

Back to seriousness, here are the final Lightning airliners: :)
– DLP-38 Double Liner
– DLP-38A Half Double Liner

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #57 on:** August 31, 2014, 07:50:50 PM »

I love the ducted fan version. :)

Tophe · « **Reply #58 on:** September 05, 2014, 10:59:28 AM »

Thanks!

Now, you know probably that (far from armies that may spend taxpayers' zillions $/€/£ almost freely) low cost civilian airlines must use Low Cost Trainers to detect and train their future pilots. 12 students per flight instead of only one... This is a new reason to be a twin-boomer.

Brian da Basher · « **Reply #59 on:** September 07, 2014, 12:18:49 AM »

Adding two Martin B-10 export fuselages was truly inspired thinking, Tophe!

I especially like the last one on the right. The lone engine in the center just fills me with delight!

Brian da Basher

Flyer · « **Reply #60 on:** September 07, 2014, 12:32:57 AM »

Free Online Dating can cause engine damage? Luckily I have never had a need to use it then...

Tophe · « **Reply #61 on:** September 07, 2014, 01:13:47 AM »

Thanks a lot, Brian!

The lateral fuselages are not military B-10 though, they are the P-38 booms modified to include the P-38 canopy multiplied by 6, back and forth... For civilian candidate-pilots.

Tophe · « **Reply #62 on:** September 07, 2014, 01:15:21 AM »

Quote from: Flyer on September 07, 2014, 12:32:57 AM

Free Online Dating can cause engine damage? Luckily I have never had a need to use it then...

Thanks a lot, Flyer, to welcome my word game (I am not fluently speaking English enough to be sure this was funny)

Tophe · « **Reply #63 on:** September 08, 2014, 11:07:38 AM »

In 1946, US airlines had an urgent need of long-range 4-engined airliners and the DC-4 development faced many problems. Lochkeed's proposal was the DC-38P Dakoning, mixing surplus P-38 and C-47 into a civilian winner... As a "further improvement", a modelist of that time proposed the DC-38Q Lightota, with a 1/48 Lightning and a 1/72 Skytrain...

Tophe · « **Reply #64 on:** September 10, 2014, 12:31:07 AM »

The Douglas factories refusing to cooperate on the DC-38P program, Lockheed proposed at last a much smaller airliner, still 4-engined but with a P-38 front part also: DC-38R

Tophe · « **Reply #65 on:** September 10, 2014, 01:06:37 AM »

The DC-38R code made an interesting confusion: the Pan-Am boss hearing of a 4-engined "R" airliner answered: "if this is a 4-engined rocket-airliner for Short Take Off from high-altitude airports, I order 150 copies immediately!". The Lockheed sellers urged the design bureau to produce such a model, and this became the DC-38R4, alas rejected by Pan-Am staff, because not enough seats:

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #66 on:** September 10, 2014, 04:13:54 AM »

Oh...I do like those! :)

apophenia · « **Reply #67 on:** September 10, 2014, 09:58:33 AM »

Yes, the DC-38Q Lightota is especially fun. I guess it would have a quadricycle landing gear?

Tophe · « **Reply #68 on:** September 10, 2014, 11:57:28 AM »

Thanks a lot!
Yes, quadricycle landing gear, with big wheels at the rear (P-38 1/48th ones) and small wheels at the front (DC-3 1/72nd ones)...

Brian da Basher · « **Reply #69 on:** September 12, 2014, 05:52:27 AM »

I so want to be in that alternate world where the DC-38R takes flight!

If only artists designed airliners.

Until then, we have Tophe!

Brian da Basher

Tophe · « **Reply #70 on:** September 13, 2014, 02:38:58 PM »

Dear Brian,
Thanks again for your indulgence...

while... the Pan Am staff did not want to buy an artist's fantasy, they required 4 seats per row with a walking aisle in between... This gave birth to the very serious DC-380L, H, P:

Tophe · « **Reply #71 on:** September 13, 2014, 05:22:10 PM »

From this twin-engined DC-380s, the 4-engined DC-380E4F (F for first class) was bought in 38 copies, and the DC-380E4L (low cost) in 380 copies:

Tophe · « **Reply #72 on:** September 21, 2014, 01:51:13 AM »

As the end of this GB seems to be tomorrow (or today on this side of the planet), I must finish with the last part of the Locheed Lightning airliners history: in 1986, to celebrate the 50-years anniversary of the Lightning, a few Tristar designs were converted into twin-boom (and twin-fuselage) ones:

Tophe · « **Reply #73 on:** September 21, 2014, 09:56:49 PM »

Modellers have a secret: mixing scales freely... as to build those Tristars/Lightning mixes:

Tophe · « **Reply #74 on:** September 23, 2014, 12:59:20 AM »

Quote from: Tophe on September 21, 2014, 01:51:13 AM

As the end of this GB seems to be tomorrow (or today on this side of the planet)

I was wrong, I forgot to check, then I read:

Quote from: jcf on September 17, 2014, 12:37:01 AM

Standard two week extension unilaterally instituted, new finish Sunday October 5.

So I have time to add a dozen other ones, maybe...


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Author Topic: Constellightning and others (Read 33961 times)