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Re: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #75 on: April 09, 2012, 11:44:57 AM »
... defend the U.S. Eastern seaboard.

Which is exactly the role for which the Model 299 was conceived, basically it was to be 'Flying Coast Artillery'.
Unlike the British heavies, the B-17 did not originate as a city destroyer.
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Re: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #76 on: April 09, 2012, 11:47:44 AM »
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Which is exactly the role for which the Model 299 was conceived, basically it was to be 'Flying Coast Artillery'.
Unlike the British heavies, the B-17 did not originate as a city destroyer.



Very cool; of that fact I was utterly unawares.   
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Re: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #77 on: April 09, 2012, 11:50:16 AM »
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What brand for the dental floss ?







Sorry for the poker face, my Mac is getting old and I was seeing if the old girl was actually going to function when it snapped the photo.   

Seeing the radars of the Tu-95 and Tu-16 is what inspired the idea.   I have yet to see if the plastic of the container responds properly to your typical model airplane cements.   If not, I'll simply laminate together some thick styrene sheet and shape it from there.   

Hope this helps.   :)
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Re: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #78 on: April 09, 2012, 11:53:45 AM »
Aarrgghhh, my eyes, my eyes.... ;)
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Re: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #80 on: April 09, 2012, 12:14:35 PM »
Thanks Darly.
Good tip for all of us.   :)

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Re: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #81 on: April 09, 2012, 12:15:25 PM »
Daryl, are you thinking something like a PB1W with torpedoes/glide-bombs/missiles under the wings?



BTW the first somewhat successful radio-control torpedoes were Italian.
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Re: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #82 on: April 09, 2012, 12:24:15 PM »
It's in that vein, just significantly different enough to be a solid Whiffer.  I hope to have external weapons where the radar sits on the PB-1 and relocate a different Whiff radar to the chin.
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Re: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #83 on: April 09, 2012, 12:56:24 PM »
 Tupolev Tu 95K 'platypus stylie'?





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Re: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #84 on: April 09, 2012, 01:03:01 PM »
Exactly.  Thus the floss box.  8)
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Re: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #85 on: April 09, 2012, 09:16:58 PM »
something else that's radome shaped -- from Frog kit stands (I think)

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Re: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #86 on: April 10, 2012, 12:55:48 AM »
Seeing the radars of the Tu-95 and Tu-16 is what inspired the idea.   I have yet to see if the plastic of the container responds properly to your typical model airplane cements.   If not, I'll simply laminate together some thick styrene sheet and shape it from there.


Certain brands of plastic spoons can also be cut and assembled sans handle to make a radome shape, though some are more model builder-friendly than others. 
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Re: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #87 on: April 10, 2012, 06:21:32 AM »
something else that's radome shaped -- from Frog kit stands (I think)

Hey - good point.  Three kit-bashes in work;  one needs a radome.  These are good tips.  Thanks.

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Re: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #88 on: April 12, 2012, 01:19:26 PM »
Could the 6-pounder gun be theoretically fitted to the B-17 nose?
If yes, could two?
And if yes, could a load of depth charges be still carried in the bomb bay? 


Oh....that's the limit.  3 questions in a thread.    ;D ;D ;D

Anyways, thanks in advance.

Dr. J.

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Re: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #89 on: April 13, 2012, 04:23:19 AM »
One easily, two is problematic from a weight standpoint, and yes, you could still carry depth charges in the bomb-bay.

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Re: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #90 on: April 13, 2012, 06:55:04 AM »
Thanks.   :)

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Re: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #91 on: May 26, 2012, 12:30:39 PM »
Scale-o-rama a 1/72 B-17 into a 1/48 single engine radial and betrousered main gear winding up with a machine not that dissimilar to the Boeing Monomail.     :-*
Scale-o-rama a 1/72 B-17 fuselage into a Russian nuclear submarine  in some boat-scale.   Yes, I do not know my boat scales.   At all.   :-[
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Re: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #92 on: May 27, 2012, 12:06:08 AM »
A badder counterpart to the He 115 with floats, radar, and torpedoes!  >:D
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Re: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #93 on: May 27, 2012, 05:58:54 AM »
Scale-o-rama a 1/72 B-17 into a 1/48 single engine radial and betrousered main gear winding up with a machine not that dissimilar to the Boeing Monomail.

I like your thinking.
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Re: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #94 on: June 25, 2012, 12:32:45 AM »
PR variant:  starting with a 1/72 B-17G remove all engines and convert to twin Griffons each taken from donor Airfix Spitfire PR.XIX kits.  Extend wings.  Remove all defensive armament.   Convert the nose and ball turrets to remotely aimed camera bays.   

As to color none of the usual options of PRU pink, blue, or synthetic haze quite settle with me.

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Re: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #95 on: June 25, 2012, 01:40:10 AM »
PR variant:  starting with a 1/72 B-17G remove all engines and convert to twin Griffons each taken from donor Airfix Spitfire PR.XIX kits.  Extend wings.  Remove all defensive armament.   Convert the nose and ball turrets to remotely aimed camera bays.   

As to color none of the usual options of PRU pink, blue, or synthetic haze quite settle with me.


Better still, an R-3350 powered reconnaissance variant with two engines.  This would be possible using the 72nd scale Academy B-17 and B-29/B-50/C-97 kits where the engine nacelles are separate components or in 1/144th scale where the surgery would not be as apparent as it would in larger scales. 
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Re: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #96 on: June 25, 2012, 02:28:19 AM »
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Better still, an R-3350 powered reconnaissance variant with two engines.  This would be possible using the 72nd scale Academy B-17 and B-29/B-50/C-97 kits where the engine nacelles are separate components

Yep.

Spendy though.

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Re: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #97 on: June 25, 2012, 03:17:45 AM »
A anti-ship/anti-sub version with a bit of a sting?










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Re: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #98 on: June 25, 2012, 07:09:12 AM »

Better still, an R-3350 powered reconnaissance variant with two engines.  This would be possible using the 72nd scale Academy B-17 and B-29/B-50/C-97 kits where the engine nacelles are separate components or in 1/144th scale where the surgery would not be as apparent as it would in larger scales.

The Academy B-50 and C-97A/Model 377 kits have 28-cylinder R-4360s, as did the actual aircraft.

Only the XC-97 and YC-97 prototypes were R-3350 powered, and modeling one would require
cross-kitting with a B-29.
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Re: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #99 on: June 25, 2012, 10:13:32 AM »

Better still, an R-3350 powered reconnaissance variant with two engines.  This would be possible using the 72nd scale Academy B-17 and B-29/B-50/C-97 kits where the engine nacelles are separate components or in 1/144th scale where the surgery would not be as apparent as it would in larger scales.

The Academy B-50 and C-97A/Model 377 kits have 28-cylinder R-4360s, as did the actual aircraft.

Only the XC-97 and YC-97 prototypes were R-3350 powered, and modeling one would require cross-kitting with a B-29.


My mistake, forgot the engine change on the C-97/B-50 but you get my intentions with the suggestion for the source kits :)

Besides, a pair of R-4360s will trump a pair of R-3350s every time. 

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Better still, an R-3350 powered reconnaissance variant with two engines.  This would be possible using the 72nd scale Academy B-17 and B-29/B-50/C-97 kits where the engine nacelles are separate components

Yep.

Spendy though.

Yes, it would be an expensive undertaking if you were forced to acquire all of the parts on your own.  I know someone that happens to have a spare Academy B-17 kit that could find its way to you in the mail or by delivering it in person.  :)
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