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Modelling => Ideas & Inspiration => Aero-space => Topic started by: ysi_maniac on October 27, 2013, 03:30:02 PM

Title: Fw-200 Condor
Post by: ysi_maniac on October 27, 2013, 03:30:02 PM

(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j340/ysi_maniac/Drawing/fw200_5m.jpg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/ysi_maniac/media/Drawing/fw200_5m.jpg.html)

(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j340/ysi_maniac/Drawing/fw200_3m.jpg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/ysi_maniac/media/Drawing/fw200_3m.jpg.html)

(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j340/ysi_maniac/Drawing/fw200_2m.jpg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/ysi_maniac/media/Drawing/fw200_2m.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Fw-200 Condor
Post by: elmayerle on October 28, 2013, 12:44:30 AM

Top one cries out for a six-engined twin-boom version with a pusher engine in that rear of the fuselage nacelle.

Title: Re: Fw-200 Condor
Post by: perttime on October 28, 2013, 01:34:22 AM

I must confess that the original nose shape of the Condor looks great in my eyes.

Any mention of the Condor always reminds me of this 1942 occasion:
Hitler met Finnish Marchall of Finland Freiher Mannereheim (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZarBKC_ZRl8#)

Notice the smoking wheel after the landing (and ground crew rushing to put out the fire?). Some claim that Hitler's Condor was close to hitting a smoke stack in the fog during this visit. Others say they were far enough and the pilot knew exactly where he was.

Title: Re: Fw-200 Condor
Post by: Logan Hartke on October 28, 2013, 03:24:07 AM

The Fw 200 Condor always had poor brakes.  That's the likely cause.

Cheers,

Logan

Title: Re: Fw-200 Condor
Post by: perttime on October 28, 2013, 04:07:52 AM

Apparently, the brake was dragging already before they took off... damaged valve housing - sticking valve...

Title: Re: Fw-200 Condor
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 28, 2013, 04:59:02 AM

Your twin engined version looks similar (a little) to the real world Fw206:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/ALT%20RAN%20FAA/Fw2061.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/ALT%20RAN%20FAA/Fw2062.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/ALT%20RAN%20FAA/Fw2063.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/ALT%20RAN%20FAA/Fw2064.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/ALT%20RAN%20FAA/Fw2065.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/ALT%20RAN%20FAA/Fw2066.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/ALT%20RAN%20FAA/Fw2067.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/ALT%20RAN%20FAA/Fw2068.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/ALT%20RAN%20FAA/Fw2069.jpg)

Title: Re: Fw-200 Condor
Post by: ysi_maniac on October 28, 2013, 06:27:04 AM

I did not know Fw-206. Thanks for posting.  :) :) :) :)

Title: Re: Fw-200 Condor
Post by: ysi_maniac on October 28, 2013, 11:53:10 PM

Thinking on first transcontinental non stop flights. More  than 24h long  :-* ...

(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j340/ysi_maniac/Drawing/fw200_tricycle.jpg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/ysi_maniac/media/Drawing/fw200_tricycle.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Fw-200 Condor
Post by: jcf on October 29, 2013, 06:14:00 AM

Real world Berlin to Brazil proposal, FW 200L

(http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww291/joncarrfarrelly/edb6a3c0f5b441d7d26862d03b6e7e3e.jpg)

There is a real world build that could be used to cause consternation, the FW 200 B/D.
The Finns and Japanese each ordered a pair of B model airliners, for obvious reasons
these were not delivered and were taken into Lufthansa/Luftwaffe service under the
D designation. For a short period at least two were operated in full Lufthansa livery.
Now where the cat gets amongst the pigeons is that while fuselage wise they look
just like the A model airliners, they have the wing, engines and landing gear of the
military C models.
So combine an A fuselage with C wings etc., paint it in Lufthansa silbergrau and black,
add the civil codes and take it to a contest and watch as someone tries to move it
into Flights of Fancy/Hypotheticals.
 ;D

Title: Re: Fw-200 Condor
Post by: ysi_maniac on October 29, 2013, 04:10:01 PM

What you say is, in fact, take a model of military version and remove the military bits: turrets, gondolas, etc ... isn't it?

Title: Re: Fw-200 Condor
Post by: Logan Hartke on May 07, 2014, 12:53:33 AM

Now this is an interesting photo.

(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/1609914_712002735530748_7557639954896836687_n.jpg)

Look at the Hamilton-Standards and Pratt & Whitney Hornet engines!  It seems this is one of the rare Fw 200Ds.

"Early 1940 the two Fw 200KB-1 (WerkNr 0009 and 0010) ordered by the Finnish airliner 'Aero O/Y' were converted to transports and delivered (June 1940) to the Luftwaffe as Fw 200D-1. They had P&W Hornet engines and Hamilton Standard propellers."

Cheers,

Logan

Title: Re: Fw-200 Condor
Post by: jcf on May 07, 2014, 01:09:03 AM

Yep, in contrast the undelivered Japanese aircraft had BMW engines, which was how the
Lufthansa B model airliners would have been equipped had the war not interfered with
the airline's expansion plans.

Title: Re: Fw-200 Condor
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 07, 2014, 02:26:50 AM

It would be interesting to do one (either kit or profile) in Finnish colours.

Title: Re: Fw-200 Condor
Post by: jcf on May 07, 2014, 04:51:48 AM

The two Aero O/Y aircraft were to OH-CLA 'Karjala' and OH-CLB 'Petsamo'.
The most likely scheme would probably have been the bog standard silbergrau and black,
with black codes/name and the Finnish flag on the tail. Aero O/Y became Finnair so
I suppose you could push their blue livery backwards, and have a blue fuselage cheat line,
ala the red cheat line of the Danish Condor OY-DAM.

Title: Re: Fw-200 Condor
Post by: taiidantomcat on May 08, 2014, 03:22:47 AM

Quote from: Logan Hartke on May 07, 2014, 12:53:33 AM

Now this is an interesting photo.

(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/1609914_712002735530748_7557639954896836687_n.jpg)

Look at the Hamilton-Standards and Pratt & Whitney Hornet engines!  It seems this is one of the rare Fw 200Ds.

"Early 1940 the two Fw 200KB-1 (WerkNr 0009 and 0010) ordered by the Finnish airliner 'Aero O/Y' were converted to transports and delivered (June 1940) to the Luftwaffe as Fw 200D-1. They had P&W Hornet engines and Hamilton Standard propellers."

Cheers,

Logan

Oh the heart attacks you could get on the JMNs with that!!

Title: Re: Fw-200 Condor
Post by: ysi_maniac on April 24, 2021, 10:42:00 AM

Fw-200 Condor   He-177 Greiff (Nose, tail, wings, and engines)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j340/ysi_maniac/fw200_he177(1).jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://app.photobucket.com/u/ysi_maniac/a/caec78e4-057f-4fe9-82f4-083a43455765/p/3632d80b-c117-46cd-8179-19cc2c85b8cb)

Title: Re: Fw-200 Condor
Post by: M.A.D on April 24, 2021, 04:12:27 PM

Quote from: GTX_Admin on October 28, 2013, 04:59:02 AM

Your twin engined version looks similar (a little) to the real world Fw206:

([url]http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/ALT%20RAN%20FAA/Fw2061.jpg[/url])
([url]http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/ALT%20RAN%20FAA/Fw2062.jpg[/url])
([url]http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/ALT%20RAN%20FAA/Fw2063.jpg[/url])
([url]http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/ALT%20RAN%20FAA/Fw2064.jpg[/url])
([url]http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/ALT%20RAN%20FAA/Fw2065.jpg[/url])
([url]http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/ALT%20RAN%20FAA/Fw2066.jpg[/url])
([url]http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/ALT%20RAN%20FAA/Fw2067.jpg[/url])
([url]http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/ALT%20RAN%20FAA/Fw2068.jpg[/url])
([url]http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/ALT%20RAN%20FAA/Fw2069.jpg[/url])

Oh wow, never knew, let alone seen the Fw 206 design before GTX
What time frame was the Fw 206?
Am I right in thinking it looks more in line with the DC-3/C-47?

MAD

Title: Re: Fw-200 Condor
Post by: GTX_Admin on April 25, 2021, 01:53:15 AM

Quote from: M.A.D on April 24, 2021, 04:12:27 PM

What time frame was the Fw 206?

1938 - 1942