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Boxer GTK (GTFz) 8X8 Wheeled Armored Vehicle
« on: January 31, 2012, 02:30:47 AM »
Revell of Germany 1/35th scale GTK Boxer (GTFz) built by Thomas Schäffter with the remote weapons station armed with the 40mm grenade launcher machine gun.


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Vajra Miniatures 1/35th scale resin kit of the GTK Boxer prototype vehicle built by Peter Jakob


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Thomas Hofmann provides an in-box kit review of the Revell of Germany 1/35th scale GTK (GTFz) Boxer (product number 03093) with plenty of images showing what is provided in this kit at Modellversium


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This is an interesting kit with the personnel carrier module being a separate component that can be removed to reveal the details underneath the module that would normally be hidden from view.  My first thoughts were to start wondering how this vehicle would look with a standard fifth wheel mounted in that space to pull a trailer or modify it to become a cargo truck with stake sides and bench seats from one of the cargo truck kits.  It would certainly be an interesting diversion from following the kit instructions. 
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Re: Boxer GTK (GTFz) 8X8 Wheeled Armored Vehicle
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2012, 02:33:08 AM »
I have one that is going to be made up as the equivalent of the Stryker Mobile Gun System:

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Re: Boxer GTK (GTFz) 8X8 Wheeled Armored Vehicle
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2012, 02:57:56 AM »
I have one that is going to be made up as the equivalent of the Stryker Mobile Gun System

Should look better than that Stryker MGS without too much effort. 
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Re: Boxer GTK (GTFz) 8X8 Wheeled Armored Vehicle
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2012, 06:49:33 AM »
Boxer has the heft to pull off the LWT better than the top-heavy M1128 as well. Besides, the Boxer is modular so the LWT installation is 'roll-on/roll-off'  :)
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Re: Boxer GTK (GTFz) 8X8 Wheeled Armored Vehicle
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2012, 10:07:58 AM »
This is the first modern AFV I've bought in a long time with actual intent to build. The modular concept is just too cool to not mess with!


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Re: Boxer GTK (GTFz) 8X8 Wheeled Armored Vehicle
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2012, 02:12:18 PM »
  My first thoughts were to start wondering how this vehicle would look with a standard fifth wheel mounted in that space to pull a trailer


A Curtiss Aerocar like trailer?




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Damn, that modular design is cool and gives rise to all sort of ideas.
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Re: Boxer GTK (GTFz) 8X8 Wheeled Armored Vehicle
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2012, 03:19:33 PM »
  My first thoughts were to start wondering how this vehicle would look with a standard fifth wheel mounted in that space to pull a trailer

Damn, that modular design is cool and gives rise to all sort of ideas.

Seems we all have a similar perspective for things which is a good thing.  A fifth-wheel trailer such as the Aerocar is a bit out of my league but does bring to mind an idea for a trailer that could be used for a command post towed by the Boxer or something more Mad-Maxx such as a fuel tank trailer.  I suppose the fuel tanker would exceed the axle weight limits but you could always say it was carrying a "light" fuel ;)   
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Re: Boxer GTK (GTFz) 8X8 Wheeled Armored Vehicle
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2012, 04:25:44 PM »
How about a Giraffe radar or similar:



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Re: Boxer GTK (GTFz) 8X8 Wheeled Armored Vehicle
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2012, 08:49:42 AM »
<...> or similar:


An EO turret and a pack of HOT-3/PARS 3/Spike!
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Re: Boxer GTK (GTFz) 8X8 Wheeled Armored Vehicle
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2012, 06:08:43 PM »
<...> or similar:


An EO turret and a pack of HOT-3/PARS 3/Spike!


Ala Panther:


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Re: Boxer GTK (GTFz) 8X8 Wheeled Armored Vehicle
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2012, 11:39:16 AM »
^ Yup, that's what I thought.  :)

Here are two more options of how a Boxer-based mobile gun system could look. Both are based on the French GIAT/Nexter Vextra design, which was trialled, but ultimately not adopted. Too bad, as it's a cool-looking beast.

Vextra 105 with a 105mm gun turret (as on the AMX-10RC)


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Vextra trials vehicle for a reduced-recoil 120mm gun (120 FER (Faible Effet de Recul) L/52) in a lightweight turret called 120 POLE (POrteur LEger).


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The well-sloped glacis kinda reminded me of the Boxer. Looks like you could easily cut-up a Leo 2 turret to get something similar to the turret in the second pic.
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Re: Boxer GTK (GTFz) 8X8 Wheeled Armored Vehicle
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2012, 07:51:08 PM »
Those two Vextra's have given me the fever...the fever to build something similar.  I've had plans to build a USMC LAV-25 with a bigger turret for a tank destroyer/infantry support vehicle, now it looks like I'll have to add a Boxer and some other donor armor to the stash as well and take a crack at a German MGS to rival the Styker for export business...

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Re: Boxer GTK (GTFz) 8X8 Wheeled Armored Vehicle
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2012, 05:18:58 AM »
I already have the Revell kit of this and have now just ordered the HobbyBoss version.  It will be interesting to do a comparison between the two.

I'm thinking one will get an overhead 105/120mm gun whilst the other might get either an Air-Defence set up or possibly something like a Netfires setup.

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Re: Boxer GTK (GTFz) 8X8 Wheeled Armored Vehicle
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2012, 07:30:18 PM »
Boxer GTK (GTFz) 8X8 Wheeled Armored Vehicle with LANCE turret system

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***Taking a closer look at the image of the Boxer with the turret I doubt that this is a 20mm weapon as someone claimed it to be on another forum.  That individual did not provide a link to any article and I took it upon myself to search out more information on this variant.  Taking a look at the Puma IFV to get a comparison as it would make more sense and it would also be logical from a logistical perspective to have a weapons system that would be common to both platforms it is probably the same 30mm weapon system that is used on the Puma IFV


Wikipedia - Puma IFV
Wikipedia - Boxer MRAV


*** *** Further research on the subject reveals that the turret mounted on the Boxer MRAV is the Rheinmetall LANCE turret armed with the same Rheinmetall MK30-2/ABM 30mm automatic cannon that is mounted in the Puma IFV. 

Additional information at these links:

Army Guide.com - Rheinmetall LANCE Turret
Army Guide.com - Boxer MRAV with LANCE Turret
Army Guide.com - LANCE RC - Remote Controlled Weapon Station
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Re: Boxer GTK (GTFz) 8X8 Wheeled Armored Vehicle
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2012, 08:41:32 PM »
Looks good.
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Re: Boxer GTK (GTFz) 8X8 Wheeled Armored Vehicle
« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2012, 09:10:35 PM »
I agree, but that looks more like a 30 or 35mm gun.  That's hefty-looking.

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Re: Boxer GTK (GTFz) 8X8 Wheeled Armored Vehicle
« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2012, 02:09:16 AM »
I agree, but that looks more like a 30 or 35mm gun.  That's hefty-looking.


Edit of my OP to reflect your observations.  I have to agree now that I have taken a closer look at the Puma IFV. 
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Re: Boxer GTK (GTFz) 8X8 Wheeled Armored Vehicle
« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2012, 02:30:55 AM »
Yeah, that's kind of what I figured.  Very neat.

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Re: Boxer GTK (GTFz) 8X8 Wheeled Armored Vehicle
« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2012, 02:44:36 PM »
Bah!  Give it a 35mm/50mm cannon.
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Re: Boxer GTK (GTFz) 8X8 Wheeled Armored Vehicle
« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2012, 11:32:29 PM »
The plot thickens...

KMW (Kraus-Maffei Wegmann) FLW 200+ remote weapons station armed with the Rheinmetall RH202 MK. 

Definitely not the same system but still impressive. 
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Re: Boxer GTK (GTFz) 8X8 Wheeled Armored Vehicle
« Reply #20 on: November 18, 2012, 02:43:11 AM »
Random Idea:  How about turning the Boxer into a Halftrack...
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Re: Boxer GTK (GTFz) 8X8 Wheeled Armored Vehicle
« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2015, 06:39:56 AM »
Boxer from the Mars Wars - this one is in an area where terraforming has allowed some of the first plants to grow...

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Re: Boxer GTK (GTFz) 8X8 Wheeled Armored Vehicle
« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2016, 10:58:59 PM »
Hello friends,
Last week I have finished a model on a model exhibition.  This is the "Lance"-turret on the  pre-series BOXER. (Hobbyboss). It is the same turret, I show on the MARDER-testvehicle, here in the physical models. The real vehicle was shown on a military exhibition in 2008.












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Re: Boxer GTK (GTFz) 8X8 Wheeled Armored Vehicle
« Reply #24 on: January 29, 2016, 02:58:43 AM »
 :)
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