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Current and Finished Projects => Physical Models => Aero-space => Topic started by: Dr. YoKai on May 08, 2013, 03:58:57 AM

Title: Vought-Fairey Skate
Post by: Dr. YoKai on May 08, 2013, 03:58:57 AM
 The name may change - but I'm going to try finishing this vexing Pegasus XF5 U "Flying Flapjack" as an FAA bird operating from
 RN jeep carriers in the South atlantic during the Secret World War. Just a teaser for now -

 (https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/941921_10200954927864971_794657032_n.jpg)

 - but boy howdy this thing is a...challenge. The way the body is split at the midpoint, which has frustrated attempts at
 decent alignment, combiined with the brittleness of the plastic ( Four cracks so so far, and I'm usually fairly gentle with
 the builds ) is going to cost me most of the existing surface detail. Oh well, for five bucks, I can't kvetch too much.

 Getting the cooling fan/spinners is the current task. More pics and backstory around the weekend. This may wind up as a 'Dogfight Double'
 with some dubious Noughtsi Flying Saucer.
Title: Re: Vought-Fairey Skate
Post by: Buzzbomb on May 08, 2013, 07:33:25 AM
Oh Yeah.... looking forward to this buld by the Good Doctor
Title: Re: Vought-Fairey Skate
Post by: arkon on May 08, 2013, 07:43:43 AM
oh man like this alot!! always thought the flapjack was one of the coolest planes that never made it. :)
Title: Re: Vought-Fairey Skate
Post by: Frank3k on May 08, 2013, 10:58:25 AM
Wow Craig, you've taken on a tough little kit. $5 for the kit and $20 worth of swearing from the looks of it.

Title: Re: Vought-Fairey Skate
Post by: Dr. YoKai on May 13, 2013, 09:26:36 AM
I've become quite inventive with the profanity ;) Finally got the fit close enought to seal, started woking on the interior, and the part is was truly dreading, building the props...that part is going smoother than I'd expected-the alignment isn't perfect, but I think
just a little bending will see it right. Something I had really expected to be a hurdle, the seperate hub halfs, actually turned out to
be a blessing in disguise, as it allowed me to drill the mounting holes for the individual blades with a minumum of fuss. I've started
the interior, and should be able to seal it up sometime this week. ( I have manged to snap the seat in two a couple of times. ::) )

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/936154_10200989685253884_1079634669_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Vought-Fairey Skate
Post by: apophenia on May 13, 2013, 09:29:22 AM
A 'Fighter' in both senses ... doesn't look like this one's gonna make it easy for you  :o  Good progress, though  :)
Title: Re: Vought-Fairey Skate
Post by: arkon on May 13, 2013, 11:07:54 AM
got a few pegasus WW1 planes for real cheap too, good price , but they can be a pain to get done. in the end i think they work god for the price. cant wait to see this one done.
Title: Re: Vought-Fairey Skate
Post by: Empty Handed on May 13, 2013, 07:08:57 PM
I have one of these. It's been pushed back and back on the build queue. Definite tip o' the hat to anyone who manages to pull this off!  :)
Title: Re: Vought-Fairey Skate
Post by: Dr. YoKai on May 20, 2013, 04:20:09 AM
Slowly forward, with less, and different frustrations along the way.
Cockpit work, with Whif detail ( because I couldn't find any images on-line, and I'm not going to plunk down for the Ginter[sp?]
book :P)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/944469_10201026159245711_2039366746_n.jpg)

Spurious sidewalls, and the kit Instrument panel, awaiting a bit more dybrushing and some dots of future.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/970096_10201026164205835_793452350_n.jpg)

Its getting a pilot figure, much modified from a seated Hasegawa 37mm Flak crewman

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/970191_10201026166085882_1611828992_n.jpg)

Its all Frank's fault - I've been watching his figure mods with increasing amazement, and asked myself " How
can I emulate that while simultaneously causing myself the most frustration?"

Finally, since I've decided this will be another "Dogfight Double" akin to my Rambolt vs. Float Kikka of a couple of years
ago, I've started work on the Skate's adversary, the mysterious and imponderable Focke Sack 190...

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/417861_10201026165405865_181059675_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Vought-Fairey Skate
Post by: Empty Handed on May 20, 2013, 06:23:43 AM
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Focke Sack 190

Intriguing!
Title: Re: Vought-Fairey Skate
Post by: taiidantomcat on May 20, 2013, 07:15:57 AM
Lotta great stuff :) Nice work on the crewman
Title: Re: Vought-Fairey Skate
Post by: Brian da Basher on May 22, 2013, 07:00:03 AM
"I have become quite inventive with profanity."

I'll see you at the meeting.

That's coming along wonderfully, Doc! I'm already looking forward to your next update!

Brian da Basher
Title: Re: Vought-Fairey Skate
Post by: Frank3k on May 22, 2013, 11:24:06 AM
I love the cockpit - especially since you sized it properly for the pilot. After all these years building cockpits, I still occasionally end up with cockpits that fit for either giants (...like you) or midgets.
Sometimes these primitive kits can be very enjoyable; you go in with few expectations and with a little effort, you end up with a  beauty.  My experience with Pegasus kits have lacked in the fun department.


You know what Sack AS stands for - After seeing the Sack AS 6 not fly, some Nazi said "That is a Sack A Sheisse!" (OK, maybe not, but I'm sure that was the general consensus).
Title: Re: Vought-Fairey Skate
Post by: Dr. YoKai on May 22, 2013, 10:07:37 PM
I love the cockpit - especially since you sized it properly for the pilot. After all these years building cockpits, I still occasionally end up with cockpits that fit for either giants (...like you) or midgets.
Sometimes these primitive kits can be very enjoyable; you go in with few expectations and with a little effort, you end up with a  beauty.  My experience with Pegasus kits have lacked in the fun department.


You know what Sack AS stands for - After seeing the Sack AS 6 not fly, some Nazi said "That is a Sack A Sheisse!" (OK, maybe not, but I'm sure that was the general consensus).

 "I'm Huge!" - Glenn Manning, a dear friend

 Thanks, Frank - the cockpit was a bit of serendipity - I'm hoping a few dabs of zap will add just enough
 detail to turn the gunner into a convicing pilot - I am kinda proud of getting the rudder pedals ' just
 right'.

 I had originally planned a "Sackerschmidt 109", but the upward curve of the aft fuselage made figuring
 out the wing more problematic than I wanted to face. Ever since I discovered the topic of 'Nazi Flying
 Saucers' years ago, I've been intrigued and repulsed. Neat, weird designs, in the service of a truly
 odious mythology. More later.
Title: Re: Vought-Fairey Skate
Post by: Dr. YoKai on May 24, 2013, 12:05:29 AM
 Just a quick question for those following the thread - can somebody reccomend the correct ( or closest )
 colors in the Testors Model Master line for FAA planes? I'd like the
 Skate to look right, and I'm thinking of tackling my Firebrands for this GB too...
Title: Re: Vought-Fairey Skate
Post by: Brian da Basher on May 24, 2013, 08:15:26 AM
I'm not sure which FAA scheme you're going for, Doc, but the Model Masters line of acrylics has a very nice Light Sea Gray.

My recent Hurry Jet was painted with it.

By the way, that's some mighty fine work in your last update!

Brian da Basher
Title: Re: Vought-Fairey Skate
Post by: Dr. YoKai on May 24, 2013, 09:15:25 PM
 Thanks, Brian - I'm looking at something along the lines of the dark blue grey upper surface with the
 light grey/green lower, soemthing called 'sky' if I remember right.
Title: Re: Vought-Fairey Skate
Post by: Brian da Basher on May 25, 2013, 01:39:34 AM
If memory serves, their RAF Sky is very good too. I thought it captured that interesting shade quite well. I don't know if they offer an appropriate dark blue. I'd probably have to custom mix something, but that's because I'm cheap and I've already got plenty of insignia blue and black.

Brian da Basher
Title: Re: Vought-Fairey Skate
Post by: jcf on May 25, 2013, 02:42:18 AM
The FAA colours are EDSG (Extra Dark Sea Gray) over Sky.

MM 2059 RAF Dark Sea Gray is the closest in Model Master Enamels,
lighter than BS381c-640 EDSG, but darker and bluer than BS381c-638 DSG.

MM 2049 RAF Sky Type S (AN610) is to my eye too yellow-green, the MM Acryl 4840
looks better.
Title: Re: Vought-Fairey Skate
Post by: Dr. YoKai on May 25, 2013, 04:49:44 AM
Thats the ticket! Thanks, fellows!
Title: Re: Vought-Fairey Skate
Post by: Dr. YoKai on May 28, 2013, 07:56:19 AM
Slowly forward...
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/580945_10201072132595016_844224453_n.jpg)
 
 While trying to dry fit the halfs, I snaped the top half in two ( again. ) I just decided to attach the two seperately. Annnnd,
 when I went to attach the back half, there's a nice 1mm gap between the two ??? I slid a section of sheet ito it and cut it
 to shape. As you can see, I've got a bit of grinding ahead of me...

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/425256_10201072132515014_681324048_n.jpg)

 And I got back to working on the FS - 190.

 (https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/945442_10201072133155030_1395451687_n.jpg)

 (https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/484738_10201072133355035_2081737411_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Vought-Fairey Skate
Post by: apophenia on May 28, 2013, 10:34:50 AM
The name 'Skate' suggests something effortlessly gliding over the surface. Anything but! The FS-190 should be a doddle by comparison!
Title: Re: Vought-Fairey Skate
Post by: Frank3k on May 28, 2013, 12:53:40 PM
That's quite a gap! Either sand the lower half or putty the short half to match. Or strips of plastic, then sand.

I think the scratch-built Fw-190 wing/disc will give you fewer headaches.
Title: Re: Vought-Fairey Skate
Post by: Brian da Basher on May 31, 2013, 08:24:27 AM
This is some serious kit surgery, Doc! The Skate is in very capable hands.

I can't wait to see more!

Brian da Basher
Title: Re: Vought-Fairey Skate
Post by: ysi_maniac on June 18, 2013, 07:59:51 AM
Converting a Fw-190 into a Pancake . WWWOOOWWW :)
Title: Re: Vought-Fairey Skate
Post by: Dr. YoKai on July 07, 2013, 12:30:00 AM
 I've been quiet, but not completely idle...(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3669/9224717636_3e85e83e30_c.jpg)

 (http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7435/9224717704_9226f72cfc_c.jpg)

 Forgot to take images of the FS 190 - but its coming along, too. Wings are pretty much done, and now I need to scribe the
 gear doors and flaps & whatnot. Sprue has been twisted for a stand - should have it done by the dead line.
Title: Re: Vought-Fairey Skate
Post by: perttime on July 07, 2013, 01:28:31 AM
About a week to go...
Take your time - quickly :D
Title: Re: Vought-Fairey Skate
Post by: Dr. YoKai on July 17, 2013, 12:17:04 AM
 Could I get this moved to the appropriate build forum? Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Vought-Fairey Skate
Post by: perttime on July 17, 2013, 02:48:27 AM
I was wondering if it is against some rule to transfer this to the next group build. The Woulda, Shoulda, Coulda theme could probably accommodate this, with a few words of back story.
Title: Re: Vought-Fairey Skate
Post by: GTX_Admin on July 17, 2013, 04:46:17 AM
I was wondering if it is against some rule to transfer this to the next group build. The Woulda, Shoulda, Coulda theme could probably accommodate this, with a few words of back story.

Given the stat of work done already, I don't think so in this case.  Sorry.
Title: Re: Vought-Fairey Skate
Post by: Dr. YoKai on July 17, 2013, 05:27:36 AM
 I appreciate the thought perttime, but Greg's right - it wouldn't have been appropriate. I should have
  this and the Gohten knocked out this weekend, though.