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Abrams P.1 Explorer ...
« on: August 11, 2012, 09:19:08 AM »
Abrams P.1 Explorer, the aircraft was offered to the Finnish Air Force in November 1938 later records indicate HQ. Ilmavoimat wasn't interested

Janes 1938 edition gives specifications as ... Span 36ft 8in. length 26ft 6in. height 6ft 4in. Max speed at 10,000ft 200mph, cruising speed 175mph. Landing speed with flaps 60mph. Engine one 365hp Wright Whirlwind R-975-E.1

Ref.: Finnish National Archive Service ("Kansallisarkisto")

some more reference on the type from the excellent Secret projects site ...

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,9601.0/highlight,abrams+explorer.html

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Re: Abrams P.1 Explorer ...
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2012, 09:27:04 AM »
The Smithsonian museum stil has the airframe in storage at its Paul Garber facility, i took a few snaps of it whilst there a few years ago visiting a colleage on secondment to the museum, i'l try find the picjoncarrfarrellys to post up

http://www.aviation-history.com/garber/vg-bldg/abrams_exp-1_f.html

and a 3 view previously posted up by jon ...

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Re: Abrams P.1 Explorer ...
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2012, 10:03:22 AM »
 The remarkable Gabriel Stern built the execuform kit at ARC sometime back. I've had the kit in my collection for...um...close to
 forty years. I'm just intimidated by the greenhouse. :-[

http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/rh/articles.php?id=17558

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Re: Abrams P.1 Explorer ...
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2012, 10:36:11 AM »
Does anyone do a 1/48 kit?
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Re: Abrams P.1 Explorer ...
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2012, 09:50:31 PM »
PAK-20 book says 'no' Greg,  but it also says that the 1/72 kit that Execuform does do is an Abrams PC-4 and it could quite well be rare as the link below says, as it doesn't appear on Execuforms current listing. 

http://www.oldmodelkits.com/index.php?detail=12116&page=239&newlist=1

Googling pics of it, it seems to look the same as Joe's P-1. 

OK!  Reading the wiki read-up on it, the PC-4 was supposed to be a pressurized version which wasn't built.
« Last Edit: August 11, 2012, 09:59:16 PM by kitnut617 »

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Re: Abrams P.1 Explorer ...
« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2012, 01:54:44 AM »
Looks like the father of the Edgley Optica :)
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Re: Abrams P.1 Explorer ...
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2012, 10:19:13 AM »

 


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Re: Abrams P.1 Explorer ...
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2012, 09:58:28 PM »
It looks like a bigger, radial engine relative of the De Scheldt S-21:

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Re: Abrams P.1 Explorer ...
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2012, 02:17:18 AM »
Now the important question:  What kits exist?
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Re: Abrams P.1 Explorer ...
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2012, 09:53:08 AM »
Of the De Schelde S.21? Only one injected by RS in 1/72

Of the Abrams P.1 Explorer, there's a paper model in 1/48: http://myhobbycraft.blogspot.com/2010/08/abrams-p-1-explorer-148.html

and the Execuform vac in 1/72, if you can find it (or want it once you do).

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Re: Abrams P.1 Explorer ...
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2013, 04:26:58 AM »
just musing, wouldnt that look sweet in overall natural metal with 'von rosen' crosses as an initial delivery scheme, then in green uppers and grey lower as early camouflage, followed by green and black camouflage, then added yellow 'theatre' markings, then later these removed and small roundels applied, then finishing up back in natural metal with roundels and blue flash on the tail similar to the last operational Blenhiem's

 8)

we soo need a kit of it methinks ... RS ? AZ ?

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Re: Abrams P.1 Explorer ...
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2013, 02:15:37 AM »
3D print this in 1:48......???? ;D
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Re: Abrams P.1 Explorer ...
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2013, 02:35:58 PM »
I did an Explorer awhile back for my WHIF fictional Farallonian AF.  So, pretty simple to put Suomi markings on...