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Modelling => Ideas & Inspiration => Aero-space => Topic started by: The Big Gimper on April 16, 2016, 09:12:06 PM

Title: Convair (General Dynamics) Model 200
Post by: The Big Gimper on April 16, 2016, 09:12:06 PM
I'm having a VTOL maudlin moment this morning so to help you up and out of bed here is some really nice art work on the Convair (General Dynamics) Model 200 which lost out to the Rockwell XVF-12A for the VFA: V/STOL Fighters for Sea Control Ship Requirement.

(http://steeljawscribe.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/image/convair_200_1.jpg)

(http://up-ship.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/convair-200-2.jpg)

(http://steeljawscribe.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/image/convair_200_2.jpg)
Note the CL-84 in the background

(http://up-ship.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/convair-200-1.jpg)

Sources and Additional reading:

Secret Projects:  US Navy VFA - V/STOL Fighters for Sea Control Ship (http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,15477.msg151887.htmlREQUIREMENT)

Secret Projects: VFA: V/STOL Fighters for Sea Control Ships (XFV-12 rivals) (http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,15473.0)

Secret Projects:General Dynamics Convair Models 200, 201 and 218 Sea Control Ship fighters (http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,103.0)

Arthur Fiddler Blog: Convair Model 200 Supersonic VTOL Sea Control Ship Fighter Concept (http://arthurfiddler.blogspot.ca/2014/09/convair-model-200-supersonic-vtol-sea.html)
Title: Re: Convair (General Dynamics) Model 200
Post by: kitnut617 on April 16, 2016, 11:37:32 PM
Hmm! interesting ----  only mine has both VSTOL and CATOBAR
Title: Re: Convair (General Dynamics) Model 200
Post by: GTX_Admin on April 17, 2016, 05:07:07 AM
This would be a cool one to model.  Any thoughts re the parts to kit bash?
Title: Re: Convair (General Dynamics) Model 200
Post by: M.A.D on April 29, 2016, 11:02:20 AM
What a sad and detrimental loss for the USN and USMC  :(

M.A.D
Title: Re: Convair (General Dynamics) Model 200
Post by: upnorth on April 29, 2016, 03:59:10 PM
This would be a cool one to model.  Any thoughts re the parts to kit bash?

I think a Saab Gripen might be a good place to start for the wings, associated fuselage area and intakes.

Tha landing gear on the V/STOL version looks pretty much straight from an A-4 Skyhawk, but with the main gear units turned back to front.

The nose looks like a "scale-o-rama" of a Hornet and a late Harrier.
Title: Re: Convair (General Dynamics) Model 200
Post by: GTX_Admin on April 30, 2016, 03:19:15 AM
This would be a cool one to model.  Any thoughts re the parts to kit bash?


I think a Saab Gripen might be a good place to start for the wings, associated fuselage area and intakes.

Tha landing gear on the V/STOL version looks pretty much straight from an A-4 Skyhawk, but with the main gear units turned back to front.

The nose looks like a "scale-o-rama" of a Hornet and a late Harrier.


Good start.  The intakes look more like F-14 ones (suitably scaled) than Gripen ones though.

(http://www.letletlet-warplanes.com/wp-content/gallery/tomcat-mdf15-book/dscf8645.jpg)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1e/JAS39_Gripen.svg/1796px-JAS39_Gripen.svg.png)
Title: Re: Convair (General Dynamics) Model 200
Post by: elmayerle on April 30, 2016, 12:10:48 PM
1/72 F-14 intakes for a 1/48 Model 200?  I think the ratio on the airflow and size would be about right.

I could see a developed derivative with a F-35B-style lift fan and uprated engine (has to be easier on decks and unimproved surfaces than those lift engines).
Title: Re: Convair (General Dynamics) Model 200
Post by: upnorth on April 30, 2016, 06:19:36 PM
I was seeing a bit more Vigilante in the intakes myself.

Were it up to me, I'd use a Gripen as a core and build the intakes onto it with some sheet styrene stock.
Title: Re: Convair (General Dynamics) Model 200
Post by: elmayerle on April 30, 2016, 11:17:36 PM
I was seeing a bit more Vigilante in the intakes myself.

Were it up to me, I'd use a Gripen as a core and build the intakes onto it with some sheet styrene stock.
Hmm, intakes from Revell's odd scale (smaller than 1/72 but larger than 1/96) A3J-1/A-5A kit for a 1/72 Model 200?  I've got one with a second, spare, vertical that's donating both verticals to a 1/72 derivative of the original twin-vertical mockup design.
Title: Re: Convair (General Dynamics) Model 200
Post by: The Big Gimper on September 12, 2018, 11:51:24 PM
Found on Facebook.

(https://scontent.fxds1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/41550906_2748182662072886_3556786550962388992_o.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=94b2d87c7ad9a8341d65bdd4a75c17cc&oe=5C2115BF)
Title: Re: Convair (General Dynamics) Model 200
Post by: GTX_Admin on September 28, 2020, 02:55:44 AM
(https://combatace.com/uploads/monthly_06_2012/post-5735-0-72820700-1340664097.jpg)