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Title: Sd.Kfz. 184 Elefant/Ferdinand Panzerjäger Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 17, 2022, 03:20:35 AM
A thread for your Sd.Kfz. 184 Elefant/Ferdinand Panzerjäger Ideas and Inspiration

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/07/Elefant_USAOM-01.jpg)
Title: Re: Sd.Kfz. 184 Elefant/Ferdinand Panzerjäger Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 17, 2022, 03:24:26 AM
/useful info:  https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/nazi_germany/panzerjager_tiger-p_elefant/
Title: Re: Sd.Kfz. 184 Elefant/Ferdinand Panzerjäger Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 17, 2022, 03:25:38 AM
Interest - I assume purely fictional:

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/m8kAAOSwsodiqprn/s-l1600.jpg)(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/sf8AAOSwhZdiqprp/s-l500.jpg)
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/-fAAAOSwLrRiqpru/s-l500.jpg)(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/oAUAAOSwasliqprw/s-l500.jpg)
Title: Re: Sd.Kfz. 184 Elefant/Ferdinand Panzerjäger Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Story on June 18, 2022, 04:31:12 AM
Berge-Elefants aside (https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6f/35/2d/6f352df211cc52dd92c7e7c3bb9b8ec4.jpg (https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6f/35/2d/6f352df211cc52dd92c7e7c3bb9b8ec4.jpg) ), why not Sovietize it as a circa-1947 test bed?

Kremlin drawing - note the Soviet crew
https://warnet-asset.s3.amazonaws.com/articles/pictures/000/002/372/content/4-abdc7a640df0a22a7fa3f26b45411981.jpeg (https://warnet-asset.s3.amazonaws.com/articles/pictures/000/002/372/content/4-abdc7a640df0a22a7fa3f26b45411981.jpeg)

Swap out the 88 for the 122 D-25 from the JS-3 and hang captured German 'Vampire' IR gear on the roof, along with a single barrel 14.5mm KPV.
https://www.super-hobby.com/products/122-mm-D-25-T-with-early-mantlet-muzzle.-Gun-for-IS-2.html (https://www.super-hobby.com/products/122-mm-D-25-T-with-early-mantlet-muzzle.-Gun-for-IS-2.html)

Or even a thought exercise for a 122mm autoloader http://ritastatusreport.blogspot.com/2015/03/autoloaded-is-3-short-history.html (http://ritastatusreport.blogspot.com/2015/03/autoloaded-is-3-short-history.html)


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Instead of a gun, it could also have been rearmed with the AT-1 ATGMs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3M6_Shmel (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3M6_Shmel) as a test bed prior to the T-54 based IT-1 http://ftr.wot-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/171109_IT-1_02.jpg (http://ftr.wot-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/171109_IT-1_02.jpg)

Or it could have just been a late war German platform for two or three Panzerabwehrrakete X-7 Rotkäppchen.

Note that the factory for them wound up in the Soviet zone.
Only about 300 X-7 Rotkäppchen were completed; mass production was planned and had already started at the companies Ruhrstahlwerke in Brackwede and the Mechanische Werke in Neubrandenburg. Many almost finished weapons were captured by the allies.
https://weaponsandwarfare.com/2020/06/09/panzerabwehrrakete-x-7-rotkappchen/ (https://weaponsandwarfare.com/2020/06/09/panzerabwehrrakete-x-7-rotkappchen/)
 
Title: Re: Sd.Kfz. 184 Elefant/Ferdinand Panzerjäger Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: raafif on June 18, 2022, 07:44:34 AM
I do have a half-built Elephant with the giant mortar from the SturmTiger fitted.  open rear superstructure so you can see the missile stowage.  Really must finish it ::)
Title: Re: Sd.Kfz. 184 Elefant/Ferdinand Panzerjäger Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 19, 2022, 01:32:03 AM
A crude drawing I did a while back:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/More%20Creations/63dd79f3.jpg)
Title: Re: Sd.Kfz. 184 Elefant/Ferdinand Panzerjäger Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Jeffry Fontaine on June 19, 2022, 03:59:30 AM
I do have a half-built Elephant with the giant mortar from the SturmTiger fitted.  open rear superstructure so you can see the missile stowage.  Really must finish it ::)
I do hope you finish that some time soon.  I had a similar idea for a PanzerHaubitze 2000 and the SturmTiger rocket gun replacing the 155mm gun barrel.  Decided to abandon the idea and gave the SturmTiger bits to General Zod years ago.  No telling what landfill the parts are hiding in now.   :(
Title: Re: Sd.Kfz. 184 Elefant/Ferdinand Panzerjäger Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: raafif on June 20, 2022, 08:25:23 AM
I do have a half-built Elephant with the giant mortar from the SturmTiger fitted.  open rear superstructure so you can see the missile stowage.  Really must finish it ::)
I do hope you finish that some time soon.  I had a similar idea for a PanzerHaubitze 2000 and the SturmTiger rocket gun replacing the 155mm gun barrel.  Decided to abandon the idea and gave the SturmTiger bits to General Zod years ago.  No telling what landfill the parts are hiding in now.   :(

Its just one of 20 kits I started but am trying to finish at present.