Author Topic: Red Star Wings  (Read 19500 times)

Offline AXOR

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Re: Red Star Wings
« Reply #25 on: April 22, 2017, 01:33:03 AM »
Thanks gents  :)
Moritz,good point  ;)

The fight continues,Ilyushin IL-9
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Re: Red Star Wings
« Reply #26 on: April 22, 2017, 02:25:30 AM »
That's really sharp.

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Re: Red Star Wings
« Reply #27 on: April 22, 2017, 04:23:28 AM »
Subtle change that could easily fool many
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Re: Red Star Wings
« Reply #28 on: April 22, 2017, 11:48:38 AM »
,Ilyushin IL-9
Subtle change that could easily fool many
Uh? This was so subtle I did not know what the change is. I asked Google what is the true Il-9 but found none. So: Il-8? Yes, it seems so. And with the soviet designation system, Il-9 would be a fighter derivative of the Il-8, have I understood all?

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Re: Red Star Wings
« Reply #29 on: April 22, 2017, 12:34:14 PM »
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's just an Ilyushin Il-10 with a Ju 87D cockpit. I think the combination looks better than either of the donors, and it fits as a "missing link" between the Il-2 and Il-10, hence the lower number, I take it.

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Re: Red Star Wings
« Reply #30 on: April 22, 2017, 08:43:05 PM »
Warm greetings comrades and thank you !
In this GB all my images embodies an alternative history,where the western design of our current history is developed in the east in alt history,of course,some aspects may be identical on both sides.I'm not good at stories and because of this my work seems incomplete or without a specific logic...sometimes.
Regardig the designation system I chose to use the other numers to distinguish my models from known models...in some cases,as Logand pointed out,they can represent the missing link between two known types.
This last profile happened accidentally,in my outline folder those two ( IL-10 and JU-87) were next to each other and then it came up,after ten minutes Il-9 was ready for painting.
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Re: Red Star Wings
« Reply #31 on: April 26, 2017, 11:44:59 PM »
Niiiice!  8)

Just a thought: a painted-on fake glass nose?  :P For old times' sake.

Maybe even in a sort-of "retro" livery. The one with the blue tail and black anti-glare panel.
EDIT: This scheme. Love the more vibrant blue. LINK!


A very good suggestion Moritz,thanks  :) :

Alex

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Re: Red Star Wings
« Reply #32 on: April 27, 2017, 04:28:23 AM »
That's absolutely gorgeous!  :-*
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Re: Red Star Wings
« Reply #33 on: April 27, 2017, 04:50:00 AM »
Thats hot!  :-*
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Re: Red Star Wings
« Reply #34 on: April 27, 2017, 06:46:01 AM »
Sure is a looker! That retro livery is perfect!

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Re: Red Star Wings
« Reply #35 on: April 27, 2017, 10:41:11 AM »
The glazed nose is very pleasant, reminding Soviet bombers.
While... what is its use on an airliner? In the capitalist (evil) side, this would make first class expensive seats with wonderful view forward and below but this must be different on a Soviet airliner for proletarian equal people... maybe this is for the leader and best party commanders, all right. ;)

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Re: Red Star Wings
« Reply #36 on: April 27, 2017, 04:04:53 PM »
The glazed nose is very pleasant, reminding Soviet bombers.
While... what is its use on an airliner?
Read from somewhere that in true Cold War mindset, all Soviet airliners were mandated to be convertible to makeshift bombers as necessary so that they could still be used to bomb the imperalist lackeys after all the real bombers were nuked or shot down...

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Re: Red Star Wings
« Reply #37 on: April 28, 2017, 04:05:44 AM »
The glazed nose is very pleasant, reminding Soviet bombers.
While... what is its use on an airliner? <...>

Because of great size of glorious Motherland, radio beacons weren't avaliable everywhere. So airliners transporting industrious workers to their well-deserved holidays had glazed noses, which allowed navigation via terrain features or calculating drift by using reference lines in the flat panels in the nose.
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Re: Red Star Wings
« Reply #38 on: May 02, 2017, 08:08:51 PM »
Comrade AXOR! We of The Committee of State Sanctioned Modelling, Alternative History and Tractor Carburettor Production are in awe of the genius and dedication of your design bureau.  This design is sure to fill our workers' hearts with pride and desire to travel across our great nation while also creating envy and jealousy in the poor proletariat held under the unfair yoke of the so-called capitalist "free" Western countries.

I see that your latest submission has drawn the curiosity of the Subcommittee for Decal Solution Quality Control and Tire Pressure Regulating of The Committee of State Sanctioned Modelling, Alternative History and Tractor Carburettor Production:



Вперед в будущее!

Offline AXOR

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Re: Red Star Wings
« Reply #39 on: May 07, 2017, 01:32:59 AM »
Thanks guys  :)
Let's continue...today we present Yakovlev Yak-5b,the glorious fighter !






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Re: Red Star Wings
« Reply #40 on: May 07, 2017, 04:04:00 AM »
Hmmmm...

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Re: Red Star Wings
« Reply #41 on: May 07, 2017, 07:17:20 PM »
Yes Greg,in that picture is the pre-production model,only fifteen were built.
The main production version had another engine and a revised tail for better stability.
 ;D


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Re: Red Star Wings
« Reply #42 on: May 07, 2017, 10:22:17 PM »
Lavochkin La-13,fighter based on Messerschmitt P-1111 project :





« Last Edit: May 08, 2017, 05:52:20 PM by AXOR »
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Re: Red Star Wings
« Reply #43 on: May 08, 2017, 01:31:49 AM »
Yes Greg,in that picture is the pre-production model,only fifteen were built.
The main production version had another engine and a revised tail for better stability.
 ;D
Wonderful illustration of what the Soviet transformation has been. :-*

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Re: Red Star Wings
« Reply #44 on: May 08, 2017, 02:09:33 AM »
 :)
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Re: Red Star Wings
« Reply #45 on: May 08, 2017, 10:40:24 PM »
The Sovietised Spit looks really good! :) :)

What did you use for the nose & tail? ???

My knowledge of Soviet aircraft is rather limited.
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Re: Red Star Wings
« Reply #46 on: May 08, 2017, 11:18:21 PM »
Thanks  :)
The Sovietised Spit looks really good! :) :)

What did you use for the nose & tail? ???

My knowledge of Soviet aircraft is rather limited.
Yak 3 nose and tail .

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Re: Red Star Wings
« Reply #47 on: May 08, 2017, 11:33:02 PM »
Yes Greg,in that picture is the pre-production model,only fifteen were built.
The main production version had another engine and a revised tail for better stability.
I have heard of the Yak-55 single-seat twin-plane (port 5b/1 without cockpit, starboard 5b/2), I could try to present it with bitmap change but it would me more simple for you AXOR if you have a vectorial source. Tell me if you won't make it. (This is important historically: this was the winner of the war)... ;)

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Re: Red Star Wings
« Reply #48 on: May 09, 2017, 12:23:19 AM »
Hi Cristophe. :)
For my linedrawings I use Paint.NET,so I don't have a vectorial drawing for Yak and Spit,but I could try a top view with Yak-55 as you described it.
Alex

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Re: Red Star Wings
« Reply #49 on: May 09, 2017, 12:52:15 AM »
Thanks  :)
The Sovietised Spit looks really good! :) :)

What did you use for the nose & tail? ???

My knowledge of Soviet aircraft is rather limited.
Yak 3 nose and tail .

Thanks! :)

I may try to do one in 3D some day.
"This is the Captain. We have a little problem with our engine sequence, so we may experience some slight turbulence and, ah, explode."