Author Topic: Dams301's Profiles : SE.580 (Read 31643 times)

Volkodav · « **Reply #50 on:** November 09, 2013, 04:11:07 PM »

Claude Lebel doesn't make it to the MAT-49 in time and the Jackal snaps his neck before killing De Gaulle with his third and last bullet.

lauhof52 · « **Reply #51 on:** November 09, 2013, 04:21:21 PM »

very nice stuff! Maybe a Dutch one?

regards
Lauhof

dams301 · « **Reply #52 on:** August 18, 2015, 11:19:22 PM »

Hi guys,

Long time since my last profiles...

Since I have less motivation for real build, I started a new profile for a kit I have in stock : 1/72th Unicraft Dewoitine SE-580.
This build will not be easy (here an example) so before starting it, I'm thinking to improve the base kit and remold it for my personnal use (yes, I like the shape of this aircraft).

No more speach, here my first profile of this aircraft. More will certainly come, so if you have some idea I'll take it :)

HD for more details : https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5663/20682269425_56efcb4a1d_o.png

Damian

dams301 · « **Reply #53 on:** August 19, 2015, 05:36:13 AM »

3 more for this evening. 2 other french and 1 british :

Hope you like it

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #54 on:** August 20, 2015, 01:56:54 AM »

Nice work

Tophe · « **Reply #55 on:** August 20, 2015, 11:37:58 AM »

Unusual & nice

Quote from: dams301 on August 18, 2015, 11:19:22 PM

More will certainly come, so if you have some idea I'll take it :)
Damian

You probably see one big problem with this aircraft: a pilot bailing out would be ingulfed by the air intake with probably much damage for his health or life... So the solution (without eating ground things like a P-51 or F-16) may be a zwilling layout: port fuselage = pilot, no engine no propeller, no air intake, no fin (safe bailing out), starboard fuselage = no pilot, 1 engine, 1 propeller, 1 air intake, 1 fin. Will you try? If you won't, may I?

dams301 · « **Reply #56 on:** August 20, 2015, 11:26:02 PM »

Quote from: Tophe on August 20, 2015, 11:37:58 AM

Unusual & nice

Thanks :)

I have one more british on Spitfire desert scheme but I want to do 2 or 3 more before posting.

Quote from: Tophe on August 20, 2015, 11:37:58 AM

If you won't, may I?

I'm not a big fan of zwilling layout (and didn't even know how to do it), so you are free to do what you want. Tell me when it's done

Tophe · « **Reply #57 on:** August 21, 2015, 10:00:33 AM »

Quote from: dams301 on August 20, 2015, 11:26:02 PM

I'm not a big fan of zwilling layout (and didn't even know how to do it), so you are free to do what you want. Tell me when it's done

Here is my shy first try, you probably can do much better with the uncoloured source...

:)

Thanks anyway

EDIT: generals may order it as a single-engined fighter with efficient free nose like a P-38/Mosquito without pusher propeller (hated by pilots wanting to be able to bail out safely)...

dams301 · « **Reply #58 on:** August 21, 2015, 09:56:15 PM »

I can send you the original Illustrator file if you want (or another format). Just need your mail by PM

Tophe · « **Reply #59 on:** August 23, 2015, 02:10:23 PM »

I received it, thanks a lot! I don't know when I will be able to "work" on it (play with it)

Tophe · « **Reply #60 on:** August 23, 2015, 06:31:25 PM »

Well, I succeeded in drawing it at last! Thanks again Dams! Your source was marvelous

(Maybe I will try to colour it to feature the different fuselages: yellow port, blue starboard, green tailplane)

Unfortunately, this Dewoitine winning design was not ordered, that is why France lost the war in 1940

Tophe · « **Reply #61 on:** August 23, 2015, 09:00:03 PM »

Here is it, with colours for our friend ericr...
As a pilot, would you prefer to bail out from this D-580Z (safely) or from the SE-580 (into the air-intake or against the fin)...?

Thanks again, dams!

dams301 · « **Reply #62 on:** August 23, 2015, 11:25:34 PM »

I hadn't the time to respond to your mail that you already work on it

Great job Tophe. Glad to help you in this work :)

Tophe · « **Reply #63 on:** August 24, 2015, 12:25:51 AM »

Thanks again Dams. Do you realise how good a fighter that D-580Z was/would have been? with a powerful nose like the P-38/P-61 but a single engine and single pilot, like the XP-54/55/56 but with safe bailing out (no pusher propeller requiring exploding blades or ejector seat)...
I went back in January 1940 (my father was 5 years old but I was 25 years old already) to give (not sell) this design but it was refused, as the French deciders were afraid of asymmetry, so heretic! They preferred to loose the war (the rest is History)...

EDIT: yes I was 25 years old as you are 25 years old, this is obvious as we are just one, you and I, on this combined D-580Z project (it is the morning now, and I take my psychiatric pill, don't worry)...

Tophe · « **Reply #64 on:** August 25, 2015, 01:36:05 AM »

In June 1945, the SNCSE design bureau presented a tourism derivative of the D-580Z, the AG-580:

dams301 · « **Reply #65 on:** August 25, 2015, 01:58:07 AM »

Excellent Tophe

I see that you having some fun with my drawing

Tophe · « **Reply #66 on:** August 25, 2015, 11:01:55 AM »

Yes, thanks a lot for this big amount of fun!

As a return, I made your dams301 name part of Aviation history! on (at the temporary end of) my site about asymmetric aircraft http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/Asymm_addition.htm

Next, what will we do?
Do you want me to send you my cdr file in ai format? (for you to play also with the zwilling idea...)

I imagine extra ones, at least:
SE-580Z-2: with port fuselage à-la-Mustang (scoop under fuselage) and starboard fuselage à-la-SE580 (scoop above fuselage)
SE-580Z-3: with pilot on the starboard fuselage (normal SE-580) and pilotless port fuselage (with engine & propeller moved rearward)
SE-580Z-4: like P-38, with free nose of the Z and port fuselage/boom like the Z-3 with engines moved again rearward (for the free nose to be seen on the profile)
etc.

dams301 · « **Reply #67 on:** August 25, 2015, 10:20:06 PM »

Ohh... I have my name as credit on your site. Thanks

I'll watch this as soon as I can :)

Thanks for the proposition, but I'm going to pass. I'm working on an another project and not enough time so I had to put the SE.580 in "stand-by" for the moment

Tophe · « **Reply #68 on:** August 26, 2015, 11:24:35 AM »

All right, I will play alone, no problem.
I think, anyway, that I will post the result here, as you are the source and my own pixel-topic is about slanting views, or... do you prefer that I start a new topic with profiles of mine? Just tell me and I will follow your choice, dams.

dams301 · « **Reply #69 on:** August 27, 2015, 12:10:18 AM »

Do as you want Tophe. I see no problem that you continue to post here or in a new topic. It's your creation, I only gave the basis

Tophe · « **Reply #70 on:** August 27, 2015, 03:13:27 AM »

Thanks. If you don't mind, I will post here the 3 or 5 remaining SE-580Zs, thanking you again and again, and again...

I think later I will make like the SE-580Z-2 a similar F-82 and a similar P-51Z for my Mustang topic at whatifmodelers, not here.
(If the next one of yours is also an aircraft of 1938-46, I would be interested to play with it as well... if you permit)

Tophe · « **Reply #71 on:** August 28, 2015, 01:56:26 AM »

The SE-580Z-2 was twin-engined but single-seater, with safe bailing out (thanks to asymmetry):

Tophe · « **Reply #72 on:** August 29, 2015, 12:37:24 AM »

The next scheduled one was the SE-580Z-3:

dams301 · « **Reply #73 on:** August 29, 2015, 01:04:25 AM »

Excellent Tophe.

Why a small tail on this one ??

Quote from: Tophe on August 27, 2015, 03:13:27 AM

(If the next one of yours is also an aircraft of 1938-46, I would be interested to play with it as well... if you permit)

Don't know yet what will be the next one for the moment. The project I talked earlier is an IRL one

Tophe · « **Reply #74 on:** August 29, 2015, 03:15:18 AM »

Quote from: dams301 on August 29, 2015, 01:04:25 AM

Why a small tail on this one ??

The technical reason for this is: artistic fantasy...

(or craziness of mine)

But my favorite is the following couple: a symmetric twin-engined P-38-like and an asymmetric single-engine Bv-141-like, with exactly the same port profile...


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