Beyond The Sprues
Modelling => Ideas & Inspiration => Land => Topic started by: GTX_Admin on September 01, 2023, 04:07:12 AM
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Including FV430/432:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bc/FV_432_APC_of_the_7th_Brigade_Royal_Scots.JPEG)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4f/The_first_delivery_of_the_upgraded_FV430_Mk3_Bulldog_vehicles_MOD_45147090.jpg/2880px-The_first_delivery_of_the_upgraded_FV430_Mk3_Bulldog_vehicles_MOD_45147090.jpg)
FV433, 105mm, Field Artillery, Self-Propelled "Abbot":
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/37/FV433_Abbot_self-propelled_105mm_gun_pic-010.JPG/2560px-FV433_Abbot_self-propelled_105mm_gun_pic-010.JPG)
FV438 Swingfire:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/4590/24341360487_a07f76d148_c.jpg)
Plus others...
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And maybe something macabre to start with...
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/e68/GTwiner/320134227_673766207547356_3753530326495876807_n.jpg)
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What about a variant of the FV.432 given a cut down and launcher similar to the MIM-72 Chaparral and fitted with 4 x Red Top missiles?
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What about a variant of the FV.432 given a cut down and launcher similar to the MIM-72 Chaparral and fitted with 4 x Red Top missiles?
Mmmhhh, now there’s a mighty fine idea! 8) :smiley:
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I has them occasionally...
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What about a variant of the FV.432 given a cut down and launcher similar to the MIM-72 Chaparral and fitted with 4 x Red Top missiles?
Mmmhhh, now there’s a mighty fine idea! 8) :smiley:
Yes.. make it happen.
Originally, for the Centurion with Rapier build I did, I had thoughts of using the Takom Sea Dart as the missiles. Too expensive for that so the dodgied up Rapiers worked.
Doing a 1/35 Redtop might not be that hard.
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Still on this family
I did have a go at doing the FV432 with Cymbelline Radar
(https://www.militaryimages.net/media/cymbeline-mortar-locating-radar.2914/full?d=1521487189)
My rendition using the Accurate Armour FV432, long before the Takom kit emerged.
(http://www.modelblokez.org.au/gallery/others/afv/fv432/fv432.jpg) (http://www.modelblokez.org.au/gallery/others/afv/fv432/fv4322.jpg)
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Still on this family
I did have a go at doing the FV432 with Cymbelline Radar ...
Dang ... that's nice work :smiley:
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(https://i.imgur.com/bvPwhic.jpg)
(https://i-com.cdn.gaijin.net/monthly_2022_02/650959581_FV432-30Rarden.png.d39aff70d915f65a98cbf671529739a0.png)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/17/FV432_%287527891020%29.jpg/2560px-FV432_%287527891020%29.jpg)
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Other ideas might be some air defence variants using either the Tigercat SAM in a mobile arrangement:
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/66/39/07/663907b8b1a947e1a997f813cc39618b.jpg)
Or perhaps a gun based air defence variant roughly equivalent to the M163 VADS maybe using a Bofors 40mm gun?
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Other ideas might be some air defence variants using either the Tigercat SAM in a mobile arrangement:
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/66/39/07/663907b8b1a947e1a997f813cc39618b.jpg)
Or perhaps a gun based air defence variant roughly equivalent to the M163 VADS maybe using a Bofors 40mm gun?
Hmmm 1/35 Tigercats...To the 3D Printer Software !!!!!
Basically smaller Malkara's really as far as shape goes.
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Hmmm 1/35 Tigercats...To the 3D Printer Software !!!!!
Basically smaller Malkara's really as far as shape goes.
You have my attention!! See here as well for ideas ect: http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=835.275 (http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=835.275)
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Aardvark prototype a FV432-based min flail in the early 1990s.
This hydraulically-driven flail system was called RACE (Rapid Area Clearance Equipment). It came in two variants - RACE A and RACE C - but sources differ over which version was for APCs like the FV432. Beyond being hydraulically-driven, the FV432's RACE system was also articulated to fold in a more compact 'V' shape for transport.
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:smiley:
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I wonder about a drone carrier version perhaps with something like a couple of Westland Wisps:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/38/Westland_Wisp_museum_of_army_flying.JPG)
(https://www.popsci.com/uploads/2019/03/18/M27J3GJKNUR7J6V6F3CMJQH4DI.jpg?auto=webp)
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I wonder about a drone carrier version perhaps with something like a couple of Westland Wisps:
I like it! I'm also intrigued by that second photo.
Like all the Westland WG.25 series, the WR 06 Wisp was meant to be 'low observable'. So, that shrouded rotor mast makes perfect sense. I'm thinking that, with that shroud, the Wisp would also a lot easier to model in 1/35.
By that 'A3' painted on the body - 'fuselage' just doesn't seem the right term for the WR 06 - I'm guessing this was the third Wisp prototype?
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East Coast USA vismod STUG III
(https://i.imgur.com/obQ1Qkj.jpg)
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That gives ideas: What about a Stug development of the FV.430 series very much in the original infantry support mould using a L118 light gun development
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Armoured logistics & ammo supply vehicle.
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Armoured logistics & ammo supply vehicle.
raafif: Those images are actually of the 5-ton FV421 Load Carrier - one of the fore-runners of the FV430 series. (The FV423 Command Vehicle was very similar but with a big, boxy shelter mounted on the bed.) The FV421 had more overhang than the FV430 series but, otherwise, was slightly smaller overall. The FV421 was almost 2 tons lighter but only had 66% of the FV430 series' power output.
Both pictures are featured in The FC 432 Series by Chris Foss (page 6). Your first image shows a derelict FV421 cargo carrier dumped on the range at Lulworth. The second image show an FV421 with ammunition resupply racks fitted.
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That gives ideas: What about a Stug development of the FV.430 series very much in the original infantry support mold using a L118 light gun development
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Maybe reverse the running gear to keeping the fighting compartment clear?
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^ theres a 3D printed kit of the M113 Stug available now, it looks very similar to those profiles!
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:smiley:
One could probably cut it down a bit too...or use the M113 "Stug" as inspiration:
(https://external-preview.redd.it/HRkAwYANi7VFgoOMcytoDmV_z0EHOfRezOtTy7LuXsk.png?auto=webp&s=65ec03defba545af579ada6d110be50583a966a6)
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^ theres a 3D printed kit of the M113 Stug available now, it looks very similar to those profiles!
What scale is the one you are talking about? I know of a 1/72 and a 1/48 one but I don't recall a 1/35 one
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Another idea might be a mine layer:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/99/VLSMS_01.jpg/1599px-VLSMS_01.jpg)
(https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.e1afa750082638aac0547fca5ccd6b53?rik=HNQjIZuCnsH3xQ&riu=http%3a%2f%2fwww.echoumac.com%2fphoto-armement%2fimages%2f020_b.jpg&ehk=HpUxKaivT%2fcGhQZs73XJsw3Mm3UIaCFcP8YopxjYqks%3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw&r=0)
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How about some different operators - say Australia, Canada, Israel??
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Australia trialed the FV432 APC in the early 1960s. They rejected it, in favour of the M113, their primary concern was the lack of maneuverability caused by the exhaust system down the right hand hull side. Apparently in close country the drivers liked to lay the hull sides against standing trees and change direction hurriedly. They found themselves unable to do so with the FV432.
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Ah, but in the whiffverse...
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Ah, but in the whiffverse...
You could fit spaced-armour farings over both sides, possibly with storage spaces in the top-rear section of the right side & all along the left side. ;)
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Ah, but in the whiffverse...
You could fit spaced-armour farings over both sides, possibly with storage spaces in the top-rear section of the right side & all along the left side. ;)
Interesting about your spaced-armour concept. Could that become an integrated part of the structure?
For the slightly later pbv 302, the Swedes used doubled armour sides with an air space which aided in flotation. The result, IIRC, was the pbv 302 series was as readily amphibious as the M113.
Greg mentioned a whiffverse where Canada was another FV432 user. That got me wondering how difficult it would be to turn the British APC into a true amphibian ...
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Ah, but in the whiffverse...
You could fit spaced-armour farings over both sides, possibly with storage spaces in the top-rear section of the right side & all along the left side. ;)
Interesting about your spaced-armour concept. Could that become an integrated part of the structure?
It could but I would think that blow-out panels between the spaced-armour & the armoured hull would be a more sensible option, reducing concussive effects on the hull & occupants. A slightly more powerful engine & wider tracks wouldn't go astray as part of the upgrade, either. Maybe use part of the space as extra fuel storage, too.
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Australia trialed the FV432 APC in the early 1960s. They rejected it, in favour of the M113, their primary concern was the lack of maneuverability caused by the exhaust system down the right hand hull side. Apparently in close country the drivers liked to lay the hull sides against standing trees and change direction hurriedly. They found themselves unable to do so with the FV432.
AS1 modification, change exhaust to top.
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I wonder if a MLRS version could be done, possibly using the German 110mm Light Artillery Rocket System (LARS) as the basis?
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What about a variant of the FV.432 given a cut down and launcher similar to the MIM-72 Chaparral and fitted with 4 x Red Top missiles?
Yes.. make it happen.
Originally, for the Centurion with Rapier build I did, I had thoughts of using the Takom Sea Dart as the missiles. Too expensive for that so the dodgied up Rapiers worked.
Doing a 1/35 Redtop might not be that hard.
Challenge accepted! :smiley:
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:smiley: