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Modelling => Ideas & Inspiration => Aero-space => Topic started by: Jeffry Fontaine on March 26, 2012, 02:49:07 AM

Title: Grumman F9F Panther and F-9 Cougar
Post by: Jeffry Fontaine on March 26, 2012, 02:49:07 AM

Wikipedia - Grumman F9F Panther (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grumman_F9F_Panther)

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(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d4/F9F_BuAer_3_side_view.jpg) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grumman_F9F_Panther)
(Image source: U.S. Navy Historical Center via Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:F9F_BuAer_3_side_view.jpg))

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Wikipedia Grumman F-9 Cougar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grumman_F-9_Cougar)

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(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e8/Grumman_F-9_Cougar_line_drawings.PNG) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grumman_F-9_Cougar)
(Image source: U.S. Navy Naval History and Heritage Command via Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Grumman_F-9_Cougar_line_drawings.PNG))

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Of course the topic would not be complete without mentioning the Panther's starring role on the silver screen in the film "The Bridges at Toko Ri" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0046806/).  Certainly a great movie to watch as a young and very impressionable kid and it is still a great film to watch as an adult. 

Title: Re: Grumman F9F Panther and F-9 Cougar
Post by: GTX_Admin on March 26, 2012, 03:36:09 AM

I plan on doing either a RAAF one or even trying to do this Australian CAC (?) indigenous design using one as a starting point:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/P186.jpg)

Title: Re: Grumman F9F Panther and F-9 Cougar
Post by: GTX_Admin on March 26, 2012, 06:02:30 PM

A cruise missile or drone:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/More%20Creations/f9j_cougarASM.jpg)

Title: Re: Grumman F9F Panther and F-9 Cougar
Post by: GTX_Admin on March 26, 2012, 06:03:17 PM

VG variant:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/More%20Creations/cougarVG.jpg)

Title: Re: Grumman F9F Panther and F-9 Cougar
Post by: upnorth on March 26, 2012, 09:39:54 PM

I always felt the cougar was a design just begging for two engines.

It wouldn't even be that labour intensive to WHIFF a two engined variant just looking at the plan view.

Title: Re: Grumman F9F Panther and F-9 Cougar
Post by: apophenia on March 27, 2012, 11:48:48 AM

upnorth: Maybe a Cougar bashed with a Banshee?

Title: Re: Grumman F9F Panther and F-9 Cougar
Post by: elmayerle on March 27, 2012, 11:57:49 AM

Quote from: apophenia on March 27, 2012, 11:48:48 AM

upnorth: Maybe a Cougar bashed with a Banshee?

Or perhaps a McDonnell/Grumman colaboration crossing the Cougar with the XF-88?

Title: Re: Grumman F9F Panther and F-9 Cougar
Post by: upnorth on March 27, 2012, 08:16:40 PM

The idea of a Banshee like Panther variant had crossed my mind.

As for the Two engined Cougar; my thought was more along the lines of a Grumman joint project with either Gloster or maybe Blackburn. I find the fuselage of the Cougar is a bit reminiscent of the Javelin.

Title: Re: Grumman F9F Panther and F-9 Cougar
Post by: Jeffry Fontaine on March 27, 2012, 11:15:01 PM

Panther or Cougar with contra-rotating propellers mounted on the nose.   Salvage the propellers from the Convair XFY Pogo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convair_XFY_Pogo) or Lockheed XFV Salmon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_XFV) in the same scale.  I suspect the nose gear might require a bit of extending to clear the propeller blade tips from contact with the ground but it would certainly look interesting.   

Title: Re: Grumman F9F Panther and F-9 Cougar
Post by: kitnut617 on March 27, 2012, 11:53:53 PM

sorta like this then

Title: Re: Grumman F9F Panther and F-9 Cougar
Post by: apophenia on March 28, 2012, 09:01:56 AM

Quote from: upnorth on March 27, 2012, 08:16:40 PM

As for the Two engined Cougar; my thought was more along the lines of a Grumman joint project with either Gloster or maybe Blackburn. I find the fuselage of the Cougar is a bit reminiscent of the Javelin.

Greg's CAC design also immediately brought to mind cross-breeding the Javelin.

Title: Re: Grumman F9F Panther and F-9 Cougar
Post by: gofy on April 10, 2012, 09:47:59 AM

USN/USMC/RN/RAN/RCN '46???

Fighting Kikkas and/or J7W Jet Shindens?  Or license built TA/183's?

Title: Re: Grumman F9F Panther and F-9 Cougar
Post by: GTX_Admin on April 10, 2012, 05:17:33 PM

Quote from: gofy on April 10, 2012, 09:47:59 AM

USN/USMC/RN/RAN/RCN '46???

Fighting Kikkas and/or J7W Jet Shindens?  Or license built TA/183's?

Oh yeah!

Title: Re: Grumman F9F Panther and F-9 Cougar
Post by: Daryl J. on September 23, 2012, 05:20:04 AM

A high altitude version of the photo Panthers.

Title: Re: Grumman F9F Panther and F-9 Cougar
Post by: Daryl J. on November 05, 2012, 03:52:13 AM

The Norwegians flew the Panther 5P during the Cold War  alongside the Meteor PR.3s and Trackers they had in Svalbard.   :-*

So did the Germans.   

Title: Re: Grumman F9F Panther and F-9 Cougar
Post by: GTX_Admin on March 16, 2013, 06:32:23 AM

I see Sharkit have released a kit of a rather unique variant - the F9F Panther with Emerson turret:

(http://www.sharkit.com/sharkit/emerson/emerson400.jpg)(http://www.sharkit.com/sharkit/emerson/detail400.jpg)

More info/details here (http://www.sharkit.com/sharkit/emerson/emerson.htm).

Title: Re: Grumman F9F Panther and F-9 Cougar
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 20, 2016, 03:09:03 AM

Just some inspiration:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvDmNJFWgAAOKp8.jpg:large)

Title: Re: Grumman F9F Panther and F-9 Cougar
Post by: Volkodav on October 20, 2016, 08:42:33 AM

Quote from: GTX_Admin on October 20, 2016, 03:09:03 AM

Just some inspiration:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvDmNJFWgAAOKp8.jpg:large)

On the news last night as "WWII fighter gets in on the breast cancer battle"

Title: Re: Grumman F9F Panther and F-9 Cougar
Post by: The Big Gimper on October 09, 2017, 04:57:01 AM

Stumbled upon this. Sapphire Cougar.  My understanding is the requirement was fulfilled by the F11F Tiger

(http://d1kqib0uq4v1gs.cloudfront.net/wp-content/gallery/grumman_sapphire_cougar/f9f-6_sapphire_03.jpg)

(https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/imgs/grumman-sapphire-cougar-jet-fighter-proposal-united-states.jpg)

Good writeup here: Retro Mechanix: Grumman Design 98 Sapphire Powered Cougar Proposal (http://retromechanix.com/grumman-sapphire-powered-cougar-proposal/nggallery/image/cover-to-the-grumman-proposal-for-a-sapphire-powered-cougar-likely-dating-from-sometime-between-1950-2-the-brochure-utilized-simple-but-appealing-graphic-design-throughout)

Title: Re: Grumman F9F Panther and F-9 Cougar
Post by: elmayerle on October 09, 2017, 05:13:01 AM

Yeah, this evolved in the XF9F-9 which became the original "short nose' F11F-1.

Title: Re: Grumman F9F Panther and F-9 Cougar
Post by: elmayerle on October 09, 2017, 05:21:19 AM

Quote from: GTX_Admin on October 20, 2016, 03:09:03 AM

Just some inspiration:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvDmNJFWgAAOKp8.jpg:large)

Do a Grumman Panther in that scheme and have the pilot as "J. Clouseau", probably ranked as an Ensign or Lieutenant, J.G.

Title: Re: Grumman F9F Panther and F-9 Cougar
Post by: Daryl J. on October 09, 2017, 09:22:08 AM

Some sort of bat-winged delta.
Not exactly F4D, not exactly Draken.
But something the Swedes could put in full splinter.