Beyond The Sprues
Modelling => Completed GBs => Group and Themed Builds => Scaleorama GB => Topic started by: Tophe on July 31, 2016, 10:07:36 PM
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Internet tells me this is August 1st already in New Zealand, so this group has started it seems.
Here are Mustang model profiles mixed from 1/72nd, 1/144th, 1/48th scales - this is far more easy on profiles than with plastic 3D objects, having to handle different depths.
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Of course, in the World outside (not on home shelves), the pilots have all the same "scale":
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Nice start!
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Thanks! Here is another mix:
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And a 3-engined version:
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And here is one 1/72nd Lightning + two 1/144th Lightning into a single mix:
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And a different one, on the same basis:
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With a single 1/144th Lightning, the compound turns twin-boom again! But there is no room enough for the propellers, so this is a sailplane...
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Of course, going back to two 1/144th models, we have enough parts for a different tail, and this gives a twin-boom airplane:
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Another way, using both 1/144th canopies:
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As there are 4 little engines available (per big airframe), more than 1 may be installed:
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Your Bigstang is ... Well I don't remember proper word but now I have my head full of ideas 😊
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Thanks!
Tell us your ideas... I'd be happy to illustrate them (if they are still Mustangs, or Lightnings) ;)
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This one seems to have huge engines...
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With 4 little engines instead of 2 big ones, the result seems less powerful but more balanced:
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Thanks!
Tell us your ideas... I'd be happy to illustrate them (if they are still Mustangs, or Lightnings) ;)
Bigstang is perfect to make it as a racing plane. Canopy and cockpit from 1/48, wings, fuselage in 1/32, landing gear scratchbuild and two 1/48 engines instead of 1/32 one. Oh...and counter-rotating props :)
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Bigstang is perfect to make it as a racing plane. Canopy and cockpit from 1/48, wings, fuselage in 1/32, landing gear scratchbuild and two 1/48 engines instead of 1/32 one. Oh...and counter-rotating props :)
If I have well understood... ??? ;)
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With 4 little engines instead of 2 big ones, the result seems less powerful but more balanced:
Even more balanced is this derivative, without external engines too far:
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More and more crazy: mixing scales AND families (1/72nd P-51 + 1/144th P-38)...
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Bigstang is perfect to make it as a racing plane. Canopy and cockpit from 1/48, wings, fuselage in 1/32, landing gear scratchbuild and two 1/48 engines instead of 1/32 one. Oh...and counter-rotating props :)
If I have well understood... ??? ;)
Sorry , I was very tired while writing it :) I meant two 1/48 engines in line. Like f.ex. Bugatti 100P or Do-335 :)
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Sorry... ??? Is this better? ;)
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Sorry... ??? Is this better? ;)
Yeaaaah! That's the point :D
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Thanks Artoor!
More and more crazy: mixing scales AND families (1/72nd P-51 + 1/144th P-38)...
Another way is tandem wing somehow...
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On the opposite, a 1/72 Lightning with 1/144 Twin-Mustang:
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Similarly, a 1/48th P-38 with a 1/72nd P-38 gives this:
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And a tandem wing 1/48th-144th inside the Lightning family:
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One more Lightning 1/72+1/144, with 4-booms:
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So many variants...all looks good. :)
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some very inspiring ideas ! some of them would be do-able ;)
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Thanks a lot, both of you!
And here is a slanting view of the P-51 "72nd" + two P-51 "144th":
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And here is a slanting view of the P-51 "72nd" + two P-51 "144th":
As well, with P-82s:
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The same with P-38, of course:
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And with just 2 engines, "normal":
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So many tail booms!
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Thanks! (I take this as cheers not tears)
But you know I am not only enthusiast about booms, I love also asymmetric airplanes, and... this is very possible in a ScaleOrama topic:
(left: 1/72+1/48, right: 1/72+1/144)
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Back to symmetric "seriousness"... (Mistel 1/144+1/72 compound):
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Seriousness is so boring... let me breath freely (P-82-28):
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Thanks! (I take this as cheers not tears)
But you know I am not only enthusiast about booms, I love also asymmetric airplanes, and... this is very possible in a ScaleOrama topic:
(left: 1/72+1/48, right: 1/72+1/144)
That would look very good as a racer :) I have to raid spare box and stash :D
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You truly have an artist's eye, mon ami and that lovely P-28-28 is proof positive of it!
I really like how even though it's asymmetric, a wonderful sort of balance is achieved by the smaller fuselage.
I'm once again delighted Tophe and smiling as I think of how your work always has such an artistic quality to it.
Brian da Basher
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Thanks a lot for those wonderful words... :)
Now, sorry I come back to symmetry, with a mixed P-51D, tandem wing as 1/72+1/144:
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And of course, there was a similar Twin-Mustang (or Half-Quadri-Mustang)... :-\
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Ahem... the drawing above here was asymmetric by mistake, with a tail more on starboard then central...
See the explanation below:
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The corrected drawing is here below (slanting views are not easy, you know...):
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Of course a similar Sesqui-Lightning (one Lightning and a half) was possible:
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Half-Quadri-Mustang looks very good Cristophe :)
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Thanks!
And I have corrected the Lightning mix, into more simple:
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And still another version:
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And one more:
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Another possibility is having the small one in front:
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another one:
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And a T-T-tail one:
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The last one for the day is very special, with a tiny span (this is a racer):
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Love the aircraft made from the tail boom stabilizer!! :)
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Thanks a lot!
And now the 1/144th engine of a Mustang on a 1/72th Mustang, so ugly/funny?
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Looks like it can taxi but not fly.
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The last one for the day is very special, with a tiny span (this is a racer):
This may be my favorite yet. I especially like how you extended the wing root to accommodate the small scale engines.
Well done, mon ami!
Brian da Basher
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Thanks a lot!
And now the 1/144th engine of a Mustang on a 1/72th Mustang, so ugly/funny?
In Poland we had something like it :D
(http://photos.skrzydla.org/2013-01-15/228863.jpg)
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PZL-126? I found it at http://skrzydla.org/photo-PZL-126-Mr-wka-111690 (http://skrzydla.org/photo-PZL-126-Mr-wka-111690) thanks!
I may create Mustang/PZL-126 mixes if I find a 3-view or profile of the latter.
(But this would be for another place, as this does not concern mixed scales of Mustangs)
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Checking the sizes/scales, I had the surprize that the PZL-126 is like a half-scale P-51! length 4.75m instead of 9.83m.
So:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/P-51TR9_abt.jpg)
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Thanks a lot!
And now the 1/144th engine of a Mustang on a 1/72th Mustang, so ugly/funny?
The upper one here looks like a crop duster of some sort.
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Checking the sizes/scales, I had the surprize that the PZL-126 is like a half-scale P-51! length 4.75m instead of 9.83m.
So:
([url]http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/P-51TR9_abt.jpg[/url])
Love the bottom profile
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Thanks! Yes, Mrowstang sounds good!
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Now, let us be serious one moment:
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Other Lightning mixes:
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Discarding engines is another way:
(with one 1/72 wing, two 1/72 pods, one 1/48 fin, zero engine and zero propeller)
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Still another way: changing scale for external wings and fins, only.
From this (72nd/48th - 144th/72th - 144th/48th), the scale-1 Lightnings below have been built:
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Scale-O-Rama mixed with eggplanes:
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Honestly,I do not know what I like more....so many possibilities.
Great job Cristophe !!!
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Thanks!
Now with 1/144th canopy and fins, on a 1/24th model, a giant airplane comes to life, with huge engines (480 cylinders)...
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I thought it was a drone at first
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I thought it was a drone at first
Good idea! Thanks! ;)
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Mixes 1/48th+1/72nd...
(I tell you a secret, surprizing: these are not serious designs to build at scale 1...)
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On a 1/72nd model, truncated 1/144th booms can be used as additional jets:
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Another new direction: huge wheels and the rest being small (here 1/32nd wheels and 1/72 rest)
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Well,this is quite something,me likey :-* and reminds me of my stalled projects three wheeled 'cars' La 5,Fw-190,Bf-109...
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Well,this is quite something,me likey :-* and reminds me of my stalled projects three wheeled 'cars' La 5,Fw-190,Bf-109...
Thanks! Your ones are interesting, do you have pictures or drawings?
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Got pictures, but I talk about models here ;)
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I really like the race car and the one from back on August 23rd with the tiny little P-38 in the middle.
Such wonderful whimsy, mon ami!
Brian da Basher
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Thanks AXOR and Brian!
I thought it was a drone at first
Good idea! Thanks! ;)
A new drone, triple, came from 1/32+1/72+1/144:
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More and more crazy...
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More and more crazy...
The top was not reached yet...
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Less funny (sorry) was the sesquiplane 1/48+1/72 (very long range, high maneuverability):
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1/144+1/72:
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Slightly different, better centered maybe:
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One Lightning from 3: one 1/72 basis, one 1/48 fins, two 1/144 canopies:
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Love the last one, the proportions are too fun :)
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Thanks!
With the same scales 1/72+1/144 there is also this one:
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On a 1/72nd model, truncated 1/144th booms can be used as additional jets:
Here is another way, and twinning of it:
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This Lightning Twin-Push flying-wing (then canard) was not scale-o-rama on the 3 first steps, then 1/144 on 1/72 improved the balance...
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Thanks!
With the same scales 1/72+1/144 there is also this one:
I like the cockpit at the very tip like that! Very cool look overall too :)
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It simply amazes me the variety of versions that you expose here ! Incredible ! :-* :)
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Thanks!
But it is not finished (unless strong psychotropic drugs are discovered to cure my madness...):
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But it is not finished (unless strong psychotropic drugs are discovered to cure my madness...):
Ahem, simply mixing 1/144 with 1/72 was due to medicines, being free I would mix 1/144 with 1/24:
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Ahem, simply mixing 1/144 with 1/72 was due to medicines, being free I would mix 1/144 with 1/24:
Uh, I feel afraid a little: now I have mixed 1/144 with 1/12 BUT... 1/12 scale aircraft does not exist! This is becoming "like" crazy!
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I really like this one, it makes me think of a flying turtle!
Pure delight!
Brian da Basher
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Thanks Brian!
And... as you are one of the rare modellers building airships, what do you think of this Zeppening airship mixing 1/144 and 1/24 Lightning parts?
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The "all 1/48" half-canard biplane Lightning was ugly, but having 1/72 Lightning on top (into a sesquiplane) provided beauty somehow, thanks Scale-o-Rama...
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Your Zeppelin Lighting is an outstanding concept that really has me thinking, mon ami!
I saw a digital drawing back about 10 years ago of a British airship with a large passenger cabin on top, but I like your design much better!
The view would be epic and panoramic!
Wonderful stuff, Tophe!
Brian da Basher
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Thanks a lot, Brian!
Now, the push-pull layout was very difficult to build: where to find a foreplane small enough?
A 1/72 "tail" on 1/48 model provided the answer:
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Do like this one with foreplane !
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Thanks! while... in the 1940s, long before fly-by-wire control, the canard layout was reputed "dangerous"...
and a piece of sprues provided another solution, with tailplane instead of foreplane (still 1/72 on 1/48):
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Now, let us be serious: if there is a 1/48 engine there must be a 1/48 tailplane, and the same for 1/72, yes on the same model!
(On the right below, same design with 1/48-1/72-1/144...)
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The Lockheeliner was "built" with one 1/72 P-38 and two 1/144 P-38:
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The Lockheeliner was "built" with one 1/72 P-38 and two 1/144 P-38:
The Lockheeargo was similar, and very efficient!
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:)
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Thanks, not being angry while I was too much serious, sorry...
To apologize, here is a genuine piece of delirium: a twin-boom aircraft carrier launching biplane Lightnings...
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With one 1/48 and two 1/144, there are (at least) 2 possibilities:
- single-seater with 2 tiny engines
- two-seater with huge tail
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One main 1/32 Mustang + one extra 1/144 Twin-Mustang (for torque control of the main propeller probably):
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With one 1/48 and two 1/144, there are (at least) 2 possibilities:
- single-seater with 2 tiny engines
Looks like close derivative to Cri-Cri :) Nice idea :)
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Looks like close derivative to Cri-Cri :) Nice idea :)
Very good idea! I was searching for a 3rd one in this family and you provided the idea, thanks! Soon here, wait a little...
EDIT: here she is (CC-38 Cree-Cree)
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Those tiny engines are enough?
Otherwise...c'est très sympa :D
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Thanks!
The Cri-Cri has a top speed of 285km/h (177mph), this is not a top racer in unlimited category...
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Looks like close derivative to Cri-Cri :) Nice idea :)
Very good idea! I was searching for a 3rd one in this family and you provided the idea, thanks!
Here is the batch of 3 (as I include them 3 by 3, almost allways). The name of Artoor_K is featured (alas I have no gold letters) in the unofficial history of the Lightning at the temporary end of my web site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/#Sit (http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/#Sit) . Thanks again!
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/P38eclairP_cp.jpg)
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A 1/48th P-82 became a 4-engined sesquiplane with the addition of a 1/144th P-82...
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The only good thing about the office keeping me away from here is coming back and catching up on your incredibly imaginative work, Tophe! I am again delighted beyond measure!
I very much like the one with the tiny propellers on the nose.
Brian da Basher
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Thanks a lot!
Well, more seriously, changing the scale of the engine only is a way too. Here are (underpowered Lightning single-engined 4-seaters) scale 1 built from models at 144th/144th or 144th/72nd or 144th/24th...
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The French Lightnings were built by the Delanne factory, with a tandem wing (scale 2 tail) ;) :
EDIT: of couse, as desk model, this is 72nd+144th... ???
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A Mustang 1/72nd married a Mustang 1/144th and they had a baby, looking like its cousin XF5F Skyrocket:
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Hi Tophe,
I find your latest entry to be the most pleasing of your recent posts.
Perhaps it is because it has symmetry as well as a pleasing form that suggests functionality to my eyes.
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Hi Tophe,
I find your latest entry to be the most pleasing of your recent posts.
Perhaps it is because it has symmetry as well as a pleasing form that suggests functionality to my eyes.
Mr Fontaine really hit the nail on the head and echoes many of my thoughts on this version.
Well done, mon ami!
Brian da Basher