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Re: Submarine Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #75 on: August 14, 2015, 02:47:35 AM »
Of course an issue with any "submarine fighter" is what sort of weapons to use. My initial thought might be some form of mini, non-nuclear VA-111 Shkval derivative.
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Re: Submarine Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #76 on: August 14, 2015, 02:59:30 AM »
Back to the Star Wars link, an A-wing kit might also provide a useful starting point for a "submarine fighter":

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Re: Submarine Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #77 on: August 14, 2015, 03:58:25 AM »
The creative juices are flowing :D I love the idea of using the E.381 as a starting point, but from a practical point of view, I'd say that using the star fighters wouldn't be good shapes to deal with the pressure effectively, something with a cylindrical  or razor back hull would be better :) also, I reckon the design should follow 5th gen aircraft stealth principals too

Re: Submarine Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #78 on: August 14, 2015, 04:03:05 AM »
Just thought, the Henschel Hs.132 would be a great base... Can just picture it in RN colours, similar to the fleet air arm, maybe with shark mouth nose art and everything :D
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Re: Submarine Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #79 on: August 14, 2015, 08:44:06 AM »
Back to the Star Wars link, an A-wing kit might also provide a useful starting point for a "submarine fighter":




Actually, looking at it, I think this'd make a great starting point, expecially if you fitted a Tie Fighter cockpit section in place of the existing one (sphere being the strongest pressure-resistant shape).
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Re: Submarine Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #80 on: August 15, 2015, 02:41:23 AM »
Just thought, the Henschel Hs.132 would be a great base...


Maybe...though kits of it a rare...
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Re: Submarine Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #81 on: August 15, 2015, 02:50:23 AM »
but from a practical point of view, I'd say that using the star fighters wouldn't be good shapes to deal with the pressure effectively, something with a cylindrical  or razor back hull would be better :)


I guess it depends upon how deep you are wanting to go and what materials you use.  I was mainly looking for designs that maximised the 'wing' so as to allow for hydrodynamic flying...not to mention were available kits. ;)

I looked at examples such as this from the real world:






also, I reckon the design should follow 5th gen aircraft stealth principals too


Which particular aspects?
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Re: Submarine Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #82 on: August 15, 2015, 03:16:26 AM »
Going away from submarine fighters for a bit:

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Re: Submarine Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #83 on: August 15, 2015, 04:08:18 AM »
There's a steady supply of both Hs.132's  by RS models, on eBay, I've bought one before and the overall quality is fairly good actually :D and I'm not sure how well it would transfer over, but the concept of underwater AESA sonar? Also having internal weapons, low sonar cross section, saw tooth edges, sonar absorbing materials and paints etc etc, sound reduction as well :)

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Re: Submarine Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #84 on: August 15, 2015, 04:16:58 AM »
Bah!  1/72 is too small... ;)
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Re: Submarine Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #85 on: August 15, 2015, 04:22:53 AM »
Hahaha, its how you use it that counts ;)

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Re: Submarine Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #86 on: August 15, 2015, 04:28:16 AM »
A Trader Federation Droid Fighter might also provide an interesting starting point:




My thinking is that this would be a UCUV - Uninhabited Combat Underwater Vehicle
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Re: Submarine Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #87 on: August 15, 2015, 08:10:44 AM »
The various TIE fighters would make good starting points for mini-subs since the spherical cockpit is an ideal pressure vessel.
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Re: Submarine Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #88 on: August 16, 2015, 02:55:02 AM »
The various TIE fighters would make good starting points for mini-subs since the spherical cockpit is an ideal pressure vessel.


I would probably use the TIE Advanced (see below) for the starting point.  The thicker sections would provide more to use.



One could possibly also use the JEDI Fighter as a starting point:

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Re: Submarine Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #89 on: August 17, 2015, 03:29:01 AM »
Here's the weird thing:  I keep raising the idea of turning star fighters into submersibles...and yet plan to model a submersible (see below for kit) as a spacecraft. :-\

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Re: Submarine Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #90 on: August 17, 2015, 10:55:18 AM »
Why not? ???

The sphere is the strongest pressure vessel shape, whether the pressure be applied from inside or out, followed fairly closely by the ovoid (cylinder comes in a fairly distant 3rd).
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Re: Submarine Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #91 on: August 19, 2015, 11:44:50 PM »
Heres the initial sketches of the project ive started today...


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Re: Submarine Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #92 on: August 20, 2015, 03:01:30 AM »
Interesting...could also double as a UCAV. ;)
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Re: Submarine Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #93 on: August 20, 2015, 03:44:42 AM »
Hahaha, I doubt it, the wings are from a 1:144 f-104 :D you guys were saying that a star fighter would be a good place to start ;)

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Re: Submarine Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #94 on: August 21, 2015, 03:35:50 AM »
Hahaha, I doubt it, the wings are from a 1:144 f-104 :D you guys were saying that a star fighter would be a good place to start ;)

What scale/source is the rest?

If one has enough body lift one doesn't necessarily need wings...
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Re: Submarine Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #95 on: August 21, 2015, 05:27:59 PM »
True, but agility/stability would be greatly improved with the addition of winglettes, and heres progress so far, should reveal some clues   ;)




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Re: Submarine Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #96 on: August 22, 2015, 03:05:15 AM »
Looking good - you should move this to its own build thread.
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Re: Submarine Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #97 on: August 22, 2015, 05:08:09 AM »
I'm planning on it :D

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Re: Submarine Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #98 on: August 29, 2015, 04:35:48 AM »
Another possible candidate for conversion to an underwater "fighter":

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Re: Submarine Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #99 on: January 09, 2016, 05:53:17 AM »
Cool:
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