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Supermarine Spitfire Family
« on: January 18, 2012, 08:56:38 PM »
A new product review on ARC caught my attention due to the fact that it was a conversion and decal kit for a variant of a Spitfire that was unknown to me. 

The variant in question is the Spitfire Mk II LR.  There is a review of the 3D-KITS.co.uk 1/72nd scale Spitfire Mk II LR Conversion Kit at ARC that shows a profile of the aircraft and an image of the slipper tank that was fitted to the port wing. 

How about a Spitfire with the slipper tanks from the De Havalland Mosquito mounted on both wings.  Perhaps the PR Spitfire would benefit from something like this for an increase in range.  Since it would be flying at high altitude the reduction in performance might not be as severe for the PR as it would be for a fighter.  This would be a very easy conversion/modification to a basic Spitfire and it would make a very lovely yet subtle what-if subject. 
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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2012, 09:11:04 PM »
From what I've read the Mk II LR was a bit of a dog in the air as the slipper tank quite upset the balance of the aircraft.  Quite understandably too I'd suggest.

I believe the PR Spits had leading edge fuel tanks replacing the cannon/mg of the fighter variants which bestowed a decent enough range for them and the various centreline slipper tanks were options, so the Mosquito type slippers would seem a logical progression.

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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2012, 11:07:16 PM »
Two words Jeff!   Fabric Wings!   ;D >:D >:D >:D ;D
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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2012, 01:14:41 AM »
Just a thought for an air-racing variant, the speed Spitfire canopy on a late Mk.21 with contra-props.   8) I just happen to have all the necessary items in my stash (if I can only find them).

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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2012, 04:52:23 AM »
....remember when Hannants was selling 1/48 Seafire 46/47's for 4 pounds Sterling each?   I bought a bunch of them then simply for the contraprops with the though of hooking them up to a Mk.XIV for the same purpose.   But who can bring themselves to destroy such a beautiful kit!!??!!    :o :o :o :o :o :-\      So they sit up in the storage unit, happily packed away.    :icon_sueno:
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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2012, 02:01:27 PM »
....remember when Hannants was selling 1/48 Seafire 46/47's

I have one of these that I plan to turn into a Reno style racer.
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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2012, 02:02:29 PM »
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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2012, 02:03:46 PM »
It's a Spiteful...but close enough...has additional tip tanks.

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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2012, 02:05:00 PM »
Another modified Spiteful

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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2012, 02:09:33 PM »
Playing with different arrangements:



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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2012, 02:12:27 PM »
Now I am just being silly:

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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2012, 02:13:54 PM »
Playing with floats again:

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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2012, 02:16:32 PM »
Late one night a Spiteful and a Mustang got dirty:

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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2012, 11:05:18 PM »
Now I am just being silly:




Actually there was a Spitfire Turret Fighter proposed Greg, Supermarine 305.  Although the turret was separate from where the gunner sat, which was back to back with the pilot.  It was basically a Spitfire with the appropriate modifications for the turret and gunner position and there's a 3-View of the proposal on page 54 of the BSP-Fighters & Bombers 1935-1950 by Tony Buttler.  The radiator was moved to the chin position with the inlet moved back from the spinner by about a spinner's length.

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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2012, 04:17:05 AM »

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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2012, 04:24:13 AM »
It actually looks like it might have been proposed to be powered by a Griffon

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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2012, 04:39:50 AM »
It actually looks like it might have been proposed to be powered by a Griffon

Merlin with a chin-mounted combined radiator/oil cooler assembly.
The Morgan & Shacklady book reprints the Supermarine proposal in detail.

Note that on the drawings, the upper view is the original layout,
the profile view is of the second configuration with side windows added
for the gunner.


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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2012, 09:10:31 AM »
Yep, was aware of the real world proposal.  Mine was being silly since I just whacked a Defiant turret onto the Spit with little real thinking. ;)
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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2012, 10:57:55 AM »


This one looks quite plausible, especially if the top join between the main strut and the fuselage is widened to pick up both main landing gear trunnions to better distribute the loads.

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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2012, 11:08:50 AM »
Refined trainer

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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #20 on: February 04, 2012, 11:19:56 AM »
I'm hoping to put Airfix new 1/72 Spit-22 and PR.XIX on PM's Spitfire floats once the kit is released and use my own version of  XDk Sea Grey/Br. Slate Grey over Sky.      I'd prefer the contraprop version but don't know if that will ever be released.      I think that would constitute wise usage of styrene.
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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #21 on: February 04, 2012, 11:54:20 PM »
Refined trainer




Now there's a nice idea, I think I know what an upcoming project will be coming form, with the new Airfix F.22

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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #22 on: February 22, 2012, 12:29:41 PM »
Jet Spit??

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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #23 on: February 22, 2012, 12:43:15 PM »
Jet Spit??
Or just an early iteration toward the Attacker, much as the P.1035 was an early iteration toward the definitive P.1040/Sea Hawk.

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Re: Supermarine Spitfire Family
« Reply #24 on: March 01, 2012, 04:09:51 AM »
The Italians had the G.55S and the Germans experimented with various marks of the Fw-190/Ta-152 as torpedo fighters...what about an equivalent late model Spitfire?
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