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Re: Bristol Beaufighter
« Reply #25 on: November 16, 2012, 08:30:05 AM »
I was lucky to snag another 1/72 Hasegawa Beaufighter VI today.

In addition to great ideas already suggested, I was thinking of doing my own MK. II using Lanc Engines. Has anyone tried this combo? The High Planes MK II is nearly $40.

Or maybe Griffons from a Shackleton.

Or a FAA carrier model with folding wings?

And for Dr. YoKai, a mid to T-tail design like the Meteor.
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Re: Bristol Beaufighter
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Re: Bristol Beaufighter
« Reply #27 on: February 11, 2013, 01:08:48 AM »
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Re: Bristol Beaufighter
« Reply #28 on: May 26, 2013, 05:01:33 AM »
How about a Beaufighter armed with the Molins "6-pounder Class M" cannon as per the Mosquito FB Mk XVIII "Tsetse"?


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Re: Bristol Beaufighter
« Reply #29 on: May 26, 2013, 09:40:44 AM »
I don't think there would be room for anything else except the 6 Pdr in the fuselage, Greg.  The magazine and autoloader weren't insignificant items (they were in the Mossie's bombbay).  The Baufighter was very cramped, with the fuselage not much bigger than the crew's seated height.  You'd lose the 20mm cannon and the main fuselage fuel tank. You'd more than likely need a large, bulged fairing to accommodate it.

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Re: Bristol Beaufighter
« Reply #30 on: May 26, 2013, 09:53:18 AM »
Agreed, it's a large installation.

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Re: Bristol Beaufighter
« Reply #31 on: May 26, 2013, 06:34:25 PM »
I was definitely thinking an external fairing...maybe akin to that carried by some Hs129s and Ju88s.
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Re: Bristol Beaufighter
« Reply #32 on: May 26, 2013, 11:16:32 PM »
one Beaufighter was trialed with a pair of 40mm cannon internally, one each of a Vickers and a Rolls Royce cannon

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Re: Bristol Beaufighter
« Reply #33 on: May 30, 2013, 01:13:54 AM »
 I put the 40 mm s in the wings on mine...
 

 Probably should have put some bulged fairings on one side of the wing...

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Re: Bristol Beaufighter
« Reply #34 on: May 30, 2013, 06:37:49 AM »
Carrier based strike fighter and night fighter variants?

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Re: Bristol Beaufighter
« Reply #35 on: May 10, 2014, 05:56:51 AM »
Random Idea: RNZAF Beaufighter in one of these schemes:

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Re: Bristol Beaufighter
« Reply #36 on: May 17, 2014, 02:24:15 PM »
Could have actually happened too with, Israel grabbed anything they could back then.  As an aside, has anyone ever seen any photos of Israeli Beaufighters I know they existed but never seen pics?


This poor image is on the Israeli Air Force official website but it could of one in any service.



Apart from flight sim pictures and models that's the best I could find on the web.

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Re: Bristol Beaufighter
« Reply #37 on: May 18, 2014, 04:06:58 AM »
Best I have seen:

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Re: Bristol Beaufighter
« Reply #38 on: May 19, 2014, 09:36:54 AM »
Only four in service, well that's a good reason there are so few photos and limited information on them.  Thanks for that.

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Re: Bristol Beaufighter
« Reply #39 on: May 19, 2014, 09:14:00 PM »
I seemed to remember reading an Air-Britain article about aircraft being acquired by Israel at that time.  There was some sort of sanctions or something placed on them and many aircraft Israel had acquired were impounded, the four Beaufighters in service were the ones that got through but IIRC there were some others.

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Re: Bristol Beaufighter
« Reply #40 on: May 20, 2014, 03:41:56 AM »
Yes there were sanctions against Israel at that time - the Beaufighters were purchased to ostensibly be used in a movie (western-desert story?) to be made in Israel. Some thought otherwise ... so most were prevented from leaving the UK but four managed to get away - think one had to make an emergency-landing in Spain on the way.

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Re: Bristol Beaufighter
« Reply #41 on: May 20, 2014, 02:59:16 PM »
Yes there were sanctions against Israel at that time - the Beaufighters were purchased to ostensibly be used in a movie (western-desert story?) to be made in Israel. Some thought otherwise ... so most were prevented from leaving the UK but four managed to get away - think one had to make an emergency-landing in Spain on the way.

A story worthy of a movie in its own right.

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Re: Bristol Beaufighter
« Reply #42 on: December 03, 2015, 03:59:38 AM »
Random idea:  Firebomber variant of Beaufighter akin to the Tigercat shown below:

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Re: Bristol Beaufighter
« Reply #43 on: December 03, 2015, 06:32:15 AM »
Random Idea: RNZAF Beaufighter in one of these schemes:



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Re: Bristol Beaufighter
« Reply #44 on: December 03, 2015, 10:24:20 PM »
How early could a FAA carrier based version have been deployed assuming it was ordered off the drawing board  as the original heavy fighter version was?

Could such an aircraft have been in service late 1941 or early 42?

Assuming the decision to proceed with such an aircraft was made in 1939, would it have been possible to have a suitably modified carrier available for trails and more importantly to deploy it by early or mid 1941?

Hypothetical modified Ark Royal, two instead of three shafts, BD instead of UD 4.5" twins and of course larger lifts, stronger deck, arrested gear and more powerful catapults designed for much larger heavier aircraft, i.e. a navalised Beaufighter (Gawd how awful does Seabeaufighter sound :s).  This lighter cheaper but more versatile Ark along with its Beaus is ready for service in late 41, just in time to support US operations against Japan in 42.

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Re: Bristol Beaufighter
« Reply #45 on: December 04, 2015, 02:07:51 AM »
... and whatif twin tail?

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Re: Bristol Beaufighter
« Reply #46 on: December 04, 2015, 02:13:56 AM »
... and whatif twin tail?
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There was an actual twin tail Beaufighter

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Re: Bristol Beaufighter
« Reply #47 on: December 04, 2015, 02:40:26 AM »
Random idea:  Firebomber variant of Beaufighter akin to the Tigercat shown below:




Re-engined with 6XX/7XX series Hercules (rear swept exhaust, free exit cowling etc.) as used on the various versions
of the Bristol 170 Freighter/Wayfarer. The 1,980 hp 732 were up to 3,000 hrs TBO by the late 1970s. Either
cropped four-blade or a five-blade props would be needed, or to really confuse the issue, fat VDM/Dora 9 type three-blade.
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Re: Bristol Beaufighter
« Reply #48 on: December 04, 2015, 02:58:57 AM »
How early could a FAA carrier based version have been deployed assuming it was ordered off the drawing board  as the original heavy fighter version was?

Could such an aircraft have been in service late 1941 or early 42?

Assuming the decision to proceed with such an aircraft was made in 1939, would it have been possible to have a suitably modified carrier available for trails and more importantly to deploy it by early or mid 1941?

Hypothetical modified Ark Royal, two instead of three shafts, BD instead of UD 4.5" twins and of course larger lifts, stronger deck, arrested gear and more powerful catapults designed for much larger heavier aircraft, i.e. a navalised Beaufighter (Gawd how awful does Seabeaufighter sound :s).  This lighter cheaper but more versatile Ark along with its Beaus is ready for service in late 41, just in time to support US operations against Japan in 42.


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Re: Bristol Beaufighter
« Reply #49 on: December 04, 2015, 03:04:56 AM »
Jon, I think I know that Hercules!

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