Author Topic: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles  (Read 34374 times)

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MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« on: October 25, 2012, 12:46:09 PM »
Did I miss any? 

<snip>Next year, I think. My Stryker-based high-speed combat logistics system vehicle, if I get it finished in time for October next year (I started it early this year - Feb, March? - & I'm barely half-done).<snip>


Guy,

I really want to see what you come up with on this project.  Seems that even with great distances separating us there are at least three minds thinking along the same lines.  Alvis 3.1 has an idea for something like this and I too, was thinking of a modifying an LAV hull to create an armored 8X8 flatbed cargo truck. 

So now we have a spot to discuss this in more detail :)
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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2012, 12:55:40 PM »
well, I was going to do this to my Stryker kit -- stick yer neck out n' see if it gets shot off Recon vehicle !  But I guess I could make it a flatbed cargo ?



I saw Guy's start on the 8x8+8x8 battlefield cargo on the other site & just wish he'd get a move on with it (even tho I think it's now been shortened)  :icon_twisted:

Looks like a great idea .....

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« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2012, 02:52:18 PM »
well, I was going to do this to my Stryker kit -- stick yer neck out n' see if it gets shot off Recon vehicle !  But I guess I could make it a flatbed cargo ?



I saw Guy's start on the 8x8+8x8 battlefield cargo on the other site & just wish he'd get a move on with it (even tho I think it's now been shortened)  :icon_twisted:

Looks like a great idea .....


Seeing that makes me wonder if it would be worth while to find one of those Star Wars AT-AT things and kit bash it with the Stryker so it can have some legs :)

I guess that inspiration comes from the way the front of the vehicle sticks so far out in front of the wheels. 
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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2012, 08:22:31 PM »
If you are planning a ATAT/Stryker, you might want to consider using the MGS as a starting point!  Has a nice turret and 105mm gun.
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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2012, 05:20:28 AM »
If you are planning a ATAT/Stryker, you might want to consider using the MGS as a starting point!  Has a nice turret and 105mm gun.


yes, but I just did an MGS, & like all AFV Club kits, an extremely fiddly build ! - stick to the Trumpy kits.

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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2012, 08:40:41 AM »
A couple of early shots.





OK, so maybe that is "a few".

Sorry it's taking so long but;
1) life keeps interfering;
2) much of the work has been thinking about & scratch building internal fittings, equipment & the linkage system (which is fully flexible!); and
3) I'm slow at the best of times!

Main thing to remember about this is that it is really only designed for supplying, perhaps, company level down with immediate battlefield logistics requirements (food, ammo, etc.)
The rear unit on this build is a "caboose" or "guard-van" unit with minimal carrying capacity. The main cargo units are about the same length but only have side access for the forklift (carried in the "caboose") to remove palletised loads from a flatbed unit (possibly with some under-bed carrying capacity).

If I can ever afford another couple of Strykers, then I might give the cargo unit a go.

Cheers

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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2012, 11:34:29 AM »
<...> makes me wonder if it would be worth while to find one of those Star Wars AT-AT things and kit bash it with the Stryker so it can have some legs :) <...>

I like your thinking!  :)
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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2012, 11:40:57 AM »
A couple of early shots.

<snip>

Main thing to remember about this is that it is really only designed for supplying, perhaps, company level down with immediate battlefield logistics requirements (food, ammo, etc.)
The rear unit on this build is a "caboose" or "guard-van" unit with minimal carrying capacity. The main cargo units are about the same length but only have side access for the forklift (carried in the "caboose") to remove palletised loads from a flatbed unit (possibly with some under-bed carrying capacity).

If I can ever afford another couple of Strykers, then I might give the cargo unit a go.



Wow!  That is nothing like I had imagined Guy.  Actually a lot more involved than anything I was planning.  I like your idea of an armoured tractor unit pulling the armoured trailer.  I do hope you can acquire the additional Stryker kits but in the interim, have you considered scrapping a couple of the less expensive LAV kits from ESCI/AMT-Ertl, or Italeri?  They are getting quite cheap around here at the shows and for a load carrying trailer it would give you a break on your wallet. 

If you are planning a ATAT/Stryker, you might want to consider using the MGS as a starting point!  Has a nice turret and 105mm gun.


Way out of my zone of comfort to kit bash an AT-AT with anything  :)   I added that comment as it was the first impression I got upon seeing that long-nose thing and it certainly does look like it at first glance. 

I recently picked up a couple of the AFV Club MGS kits and was amazed at the number of tiny parts included, methinks an illuminated magnifying device will be needed sooner than I planned. 
« Last Edit: October 26, 2012, 11:46:02 AM by Jeffry Fontaine »
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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2012, 11:44:07 AM »
Looking good Guy!

Did I miss any?

Well there's the now-abandoned  Piranha IV and the new Piranha 5, if that's what you meant. The latter includes an IFV for Canada's Close Combat Vehicle project.

BTW, GM Defense's London, ON plant did work on a RW 'pick-up' version of the LAV II, FWIW. AFAIK, the object was to create something akin to modular Boxer rather than an open-backed logistics type.
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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2012, 11:51:12 AM »
Pic's taken today.

Prime mover - crew space:




Commanders weapons control unit:


Inside top, not very exciting:


(Note the anti-spalling mat on the side wall & the air-con unit on the ceiling.)

Linkage:

(You have no idea how much time I've spent finding the right parts for this. Eventually 1 x novelty biro top + 1 x toy fairy wand supplied the parts.)

Crew's survival vests (in case they need to bail out in hostile territory):



Now, how do I fit them AND 3 crewmen in here?

(Actually, I'm pretty sure I know how I'm doing this but one of the vests is probably not going to be visible.)

Questions or comments welcome.

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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2012, 03:43:25 PM »
I actually don't mind the look of that tracked Stryker.
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« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2012, 04:49:19 PM »
I actually don't mind the look of that tracked Stryker.

It should please a certain well known and prolific poster on the web about military matters who describes all wheeled APC's as "wheeled deathtraps" and believes the M113 is the answer to all problems.  ;D

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« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2012, 05:30:02 PM »
I actually don't mind the look of that tracked Stryker.

It should please a certain well known and prolific poster on the web about military matters who describes all wheeled APC's as "wheeled deathtraps" and believes the M113 is the answer to all problems.  ;D

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« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2012, 07:30:50 PM »
I actually don't mind the look of that tracked Stryker.

It should please a certain well known and prolific poster on the web about military matters who describes all wheeled APC's as "wheeled deathtraps" and believes the M113 is the answer to all problems.  ;D

Whoever he is, he's insane! :-\

Ah, you haven't had the pain of encountering Mike Sparks then?  Keep it that way.  He is part of a bogus military studies "group" which comes up with some very strange ideas.  He is also running a one man campaign to have the M113 named the "Gavin".    :o

He's been kicked from more military forums than anyone I'm aware of.  His major problem appears to be that he can't understand why people don't think he's a genius.  If you really want to have your mind attacked, just do a google search for "mike sparks m113".  You've been warned though!

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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2012, 12:20:33 AM »
I used to go on Tanknet (before my PC started getting viruses every time...) and there were people on there so ****ed off with Sparky that they were making serious efforts to hunt him down in real life.... C:-)
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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2012, 05:58:00 AM »
I like the idea of doing a LAV (or derivative thereof) with NETFIRES setup in the rear:

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« Reply #16 on: March 01, 2013, 09:44:34 PM »
This one was trialled by Canada. I think its got a 75mm gun, timeframe is 1980:


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« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2013, 12:00:44 PM »
I do love AAI 75 mm gun.

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« Reply #18 on: March 25, 2013, 10:02:46 AM »
Looks like the Chilean AVGP variants by BVM are getting closer to a release date:



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« Reply #19 on: March 27, 2013, 02:30:07 PM »
Cool.
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« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2013, 10:17:42 AM »
How about a 16 wheeled version consisting of two LAVs linked together in an articulated vehicle layout?
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« Reply #21 on: November 24, 2013, 09:57:21 PM »
I'm sure someone on here built that, kind of a  LAV-III meets BV-206 logistics vehicle.

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« Reply #22 on: November 27, 2013, 11:41:16 PM »
That may, possibly, be me & my HMBLT (although it's actually "Stryker" based)! ;)

Here: http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=2257.0

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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #23 on: June 07, 2014, 08:36:08 AM »
LAV-25 half-track



LAV-25 three-quarter-track ( :P)

In both cases, the tracks were lifted from an M41 and are not to scale, going for looks only.



How about a little more firepower for the Marines? Maybe a predecessor to the Stryker MGS? Something for Operation Just Cause?
Turret is from an AMX-13/75 (inspired by Jeff's recent purchase of a Heller AMX-13) and to scale. If the 75mm gun isn't powerful enough, there are/were also versions of turrets with 90 or even 105mm guns.

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« Reply #24 on: June 07, 2014, 09:28:00 AM »
I love them all! :)
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« Reply #25 on: June 07, 2014, 10:38:29 AM »
Go retro and give the LAV '20s-early '30s style demountable tracks for that 'temporary halftrack' look.
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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #26 on: June 08, 2014, 01:04:38 AM »
LAV-25 half-track

Would putting the sprockets to the front make more sense?
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« Reply #27 on: June 08, 2014, 03:18:12 AM »
Yeah, you're right. It'd probably be easier to put the transmission forward, where it won't interfere with the troop compartment as much. Didn't think of that when I did the profile.
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« Reply #28 on: June 08, 2014, 09:54:36 AM »
I don't think it would.  Don't the LAV series (including Piranha) utilise a H drive system with separate drive shafts down each side of the vehicle?  Considering that, you'd just use the existing system with the right-angle transmission.   As you would be using the second last station's transmission you'd more than likely actually improve room in the troop compartment.  Also, doesn't the last wheel station turn to improve the turning circle?  Might be wrong on that but if it does, that would be eliminated as well, which would also improve the space in the troop compartment.

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« Reply #29 on: November 02, 2014, 03:04:08 AM »
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« Reply #30 on: November 02, 2014, 03:38:56 AM »
Top missiles lose their upper fins to a low bridge?

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« Reply #31 on: November 02, 2014, 04:37:28 AM »
My apologies if this has been shared already elsewhere on the forum. From a fellow named Jack Herron on the No Rivet Counters Allowed group on Facebook. It's the 1/35 Trumpeter Stryker, with the turret from the LAV-AD and some added bits in 1/48.
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« Reply #32 on: November 02, 2014, 04:44:24 AM »
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« Reply #33 on: November 21, 2014, 08:45:37 AM »
where's the pic of the 6x6 AVGP where the middle trapezoid chunk was removed from the lower hull, and the 3 axles were evenly spaced? Someone on here did a photoshop of it and I've searched high & low for it.

The author called it the C-19 Ferret

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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #34 on: November 21, 2014, 05:28:03 PM »
here are a few Belgian Army versions of the MOWAG Piranha IIIC

Piranha APC (equiped with the FN Arrows remote controlled .50 turret



the Piranha DF90 (with MECAR 90mm turret, has replaced the Leopard 1A2BE tanks)



Piranha DF30 Fus. (with 30mm cannon)



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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #35 on: November 24, 2014, 06:58:11 AM »

Nils: Great collection ... it's good to see them all lined up together!

One nit-picky/rivet-counter note, though: the 'Piranha APC' is the variant that gets the FUS suffix.

Official titles are:

AIV Piranha IIIC 8X8 FUSELIER (or Piranha FUS), and

AIV Piranha IIIC 8X8 DF30 (or Piranha DF30)

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« Reply #36 on: November 24, 2014, 08:44:22 AM »
I find the Ferrets and Bobcats interesting but they do look rather narrow and high to my eye, A.

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« Reply #37 on: November 29, 2014, 11:42:01 AM »
Yep, you're right Rickshaw. True of all the Mowag LAV derivatives, I think.
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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #38 on: August 12, 2015, 02:30:13 PM »
ASLAV with TOW - trailed in Australia but not adopted:

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« Reply #39 on: August 14, 2015, 05:09:08 PM »
That turret TOW combo was offered on the Desert Warrior as well.  The turrets I believe were manufactured in Australia by GDLS.

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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #40 on: November 14, 2015, 08:59:23 AM »
Interesting - I haven't seen a wheeled APC with a bridge before:



Is developed by a company called Pearson Engineering.
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« Reply #41 on: November 18, 2015, 04:08:28 AM »
Pearson also make those Surface Clearance Device ploughs for Strykers.
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« Reply #42 on: December 18, 2015, 05:12:24 PM »






More pictures here, detailing the build.  He's named it the "Bobcat II" AD vehicle.

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« Reply #43 on: December 18, 2015, 09:19:44 PM »
Damn. 

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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #44 on: December 19, 2015, 04:02:22 AM »
Err...that's by our very own Graeme (aka Gingie) and was featured here back in 2012...
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« Reply #45 on: December 19, 2015, 09:17:52 AM »
Err...that's by our very own Graeme (aka Gingie) and was featured here back in 2012...


I thought it looked familiar but wasn't sure...  My bad.   :-[

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« Reply #46 on: December 19, 2015, 09:33:18 AM »
USMC LAV trialed with LAV-30 turret.  Is that co-axial machinegun a .50 cal.?
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« Reply #47 on: January 18, 2016, 12:29:55 AM »
Found these on the CASR Twitter feed:





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« Reply #48 on: January 18, 2016, 08:57:58 AM »
Thanks Carl.

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« Reply #49 on: January 20, 2016, 09:45:57 AM »






More pictures here, detailing the build.  He's named it the "Bobcat II" AD vehicle.


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« Reply #50 on: January 20, 2016, 09:58:51 AM »

More pictures here, detailing the build.  He's named it the "Bobcat II" AD vehicle.


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« Reply #51 on: January 20, 2016, 10:29:26 AM »
However, when I look at it, I can't help but think that it should have been based on an 8-wheeler. ???
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« Reply #52 on: January 20, 2016, 11:55:39 AM »
However, when I look at it, I can't help but think that it should have been based on an 8-wheeler. ???

Six works but eight would be good too.
What gun is that? Reminds me of the 1/48th GAU-8 I have in the spares box.

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« Reply #53 on: January 20, 2016, 10:12:46 PM »
The build is detailed on Network54 & the builder (gcdavidson) states it came from "a spare Academy M-163 Vulcan turret".

Link to page where I found it: http://www.network54.com/Search/view/169232/1258138558/Bobcat+II,+446+AD+Sqn,+Canadian+Air+Force+Regiment?term=rain+tray&page=79
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« Reply #54 on: January 21, 2016, 02:21:50 AM »
The build is detailed on Network54 & the builder (gcdavidson) states it came from "a spare Academy M-163 Vulcan turret".

Link to page where I found it: http://www.network54.com/Search/view/169232/1258138558/Bobcat+II,+446+AD+Sqn,+Canadian+Air+Force+Regiment?term=rain+tray&page=79


As already explained, that's by our very own Graeme (aka Gingie) and was featured here back in 2012...
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« Reply #55 on: January 21, 2016, 09:42:44 PM »
I obviously  needed to go to bed, rather than look at websites. :-[
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« Reply #56 on: May 28, 2016, 08:41:00 AM »
Went by the CANSEC expos yesterday:

RBS-70 on Stryker. Looking at South American market for this -


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« Reply #57 on: May 29, 2016, 02:50:15 AM »
First one has potential for modelling - where does one find a 1/35 RBS70 though?

Somewhat similar might be to fit LAV or similar with Stinger mount from Wiesel 2 LeFlaSys "Ozelot":


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« Reply #58 on: May 29, 2016, 07:39:45 AM »
First one has potential for modelling - where does one find a 1/35 RBS70 though?


Greg,

Believe it don't but Italeri had a 1:35th scale air-defense weapons set that included the RBS-70, SA-7/14, FIM-92 Stinger, Starstreak, Dshk 12.7mm with AA mount, and a rather crappy looking 25/30mm Bushmaster shape on a very what-if mount.  Good luck finding the set now, it has been probably fifteen years since I last saw it available for consumption. 

***edit for image. 

It took a bit of searching but I found an image of the box art for that weapons set.  Italeri 1:35th scale Anti-Aircraft Armament Set (#422).  I completely forgot about the French Mistral MANPAD included in the kit.  Anyway, good luck trying to find that kit anywhere but on eBay.
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« Reply #59 on: May 29, 2016, 09:19:06 AM »
First one has potential for modelling - where does one find a 1/35 RBS70 though?

All it is a set of tubes and a box with a guidance window on the front.  Scratchbuild it, I'd suggest.

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« Reply #60 on: May 31, 2016, 11:22:43 AM »
Went by the CANSEC expos yesterday: ...

Good stuff! Thanks for sharing Graeme  :)
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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #61 on: June 19, 2016, 08:04:06 AM »
I am thinking the USMC LAV with the 90 mm turret from the V-150.
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« Reply #62 on: June 19, 2016, 04:45:25 PM »
I am thinking the USMC LAV with the 90 mm turret from the V-150.

Which 90mm turret; Mecar or Cockerill? ???
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« Reply #63 on: June 20, 2016, 07:06:08 AM »
I am thinking the USMC LAV with the 90 mm turret from the V-150.

Which 90mm turret; Mecar or Cockerill? ???

Either one.
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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #64 on: June 20, 2016, 07:14:37 AM »
^ Well, what are you waiting for?  >:D The Hobby Boss V-150s and Italeri LAV-25s are both cheap and plentiful!  :icon_beer:
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« Reply #65 on: June 20, 2016, 07:44:08 AM »
^ Well, what are you waiting for?  >:D The Hobby Boss V-150s and Italeri LAV-25s are both cheap and plentiful!  :icon_beer:
I have the Hobby Boss kit at home,and the original Trumpeter issue LAV 25 . Got the LAV for less than $30. 8)
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« Reply #66 on: April 23, 2017, 04:38:11 AM »
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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #67 on: December 27, 2018, 01:31:29 PM »
Kongsberg PROTECTOR MCT-30 remote weapon station being the theme here......
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« Reply #68 on: December 27, 2018, 10:21:07 PM »


This looks really top heavy. How does the suspension hold all that extra weight?

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« Reply #69 on: December 28, 2018, 03:14:29 AM »
I think you will find its not that heavy (an thus not that heavily armoured).  You can find more about the Cockerill LCTS 90MP shown here.
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« Reply #70 on: January 02, 2019, 10:33:47 AM »
This one was trialled by Canada. I think its got a 75mm gun, timeframe is 1980:




Oh wow never seen this Piranha 8x8/AAI 75mm M32 gun turret combination before 😮😋
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Also wondering if it would have retained that amazing +22 elevation that was seen with the AAI Rapid Deployment Force/Light Tank ['AAI promoted the M32 as a dual-purpose gun in that, when elevated, the system could be used to counter low-flying aircraft as in a self-propelled Anti-Aircraft (AA) system']

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« Reply #71 on: January 02, 2019, 02:12:45 PM »
Oh wow never seen this Piranha 8x8/AAI 75mm M32 gun turret combination before 😮😋

Just a nitpick- the 75mm gun is ARES XM274.  M32 is the 76mm gun used on the M41 Walker Bulldog  :P
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« Reply #72 on: January 02, 2019, 08:27:31 PM »
Oh wow never seen this Piranha 8x8/AAI 75mm M32 gun turret combination before 😮😋

Just a nitpick- the 75mm gun is ARES XM274.  M32 is the 76mm gun used on the M41 Walker Bulldog  :P

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« Reply #75 on: January 04, 2019, 12:47:15 PM »
I am kinda wondering about the stress the ARES cannon would inflict upon the LAV hull.  I heard that the LAV-AD was retired due to the long-term hull stress from firing the GAU-12/U although the ARES cannon isn't a repeater like that Gatling gun (at least not of the same sort).
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« Reply #76 on: January 04, 2019, 02:01:27 PM »
Makes you wonder how the stresses created by the 105mm gun on the M1128 MGS are dealt with. 
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« Reply #77 on: January 05, 2019, 12:12:08 AM »
Makes you wonder how the stresses created by the 105mm gun on the M1128 MGS are dealt with.

Well, outside of any measure done to the low-profile turret, the Piranha III (Stryker) might also have a tougher frame than the Piranha II (LAV-25 derivatives) to begin with......
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« Reply #78 on: January 05, 2019, 07:53:15 AM »
Makes you wonder how the stresses created by the 105mm gun on the M1128 MGS are dealt with.

Just don't fire it from the 3 & 9 o'clock :-)

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« Reply #79 on: July 20, 2019, 05:55:23 AM »
New Air Defence version - I like the rear flat area - could do other things with that:


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« Reply #80 on: July 20, 2019, 08:22:24 AM »
Those sure look like Hellfire missiles on the left side. Combo AA and anti tank system?

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« Reply #81 on: July 20, 2019, 10:13:32 AM »
Quote
(From Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stryker) Stryker Mobile SHORAD Launcher (MSL): In August 2017, Boeing and General Dynamics unveiled a Stryker variant fitted with an Avenger turret for short-range air defense and operated by a three-man crew. The turret replaces the passenger compartment and in addition to the standard FIM-92 Stinger, it is being upgraded to fire Hellfire and AIM-9X Sidewinder missiles.
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« Reply #82 on: July 21, 2019, 04:34:28 AM »
What other things could we add to the rear of that Stryker if we remove the Boeing 'turret' system.  A howitzer perhaps or maybe a HiMARS MLRS pod?  Maybe just a cargo pallet?  Maybe a VTOL UAV?
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« Reply #83 on: July 21, 2019, 04:45:07 AM »
Speaking of which:

105mm SPH:




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« Reply #84 on: July 21, 2019, 05:01:40 AM »
I wonder how we would go doing something like this:

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« Reply #85 on: July 21, 2019, 05:12:42 AM »
Another option might be a Stryker with NASAMS in either boxed or unboxed form:





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« Reply #86 on: March 09, 2021, 06:24:07 AM »
I do love the EUREKA turret.  The CF used M113s equipped with it (plus a co-axial machinegun) as a tank substitute before switching to the LAV III although Canada is not to only country to use the turret on the Piranha family of vehicles.

It's kinda a shame that the Hellfire has pretty much become the next big thing to the US military now.  Maybe the inclusion of, say, a thermobaric warhead would have made the TOW missile system more versatile.
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« Reply #87 on: March 10, 2021, 03:41:01 AM »
Looking at that Swiss Panzerjäger 90, it might have made sense for the Canadian Forces to adopt the Kvaerner Eureka ALT for the faster-moving 6x6 AVGP as well as the tracked M113A2 TUA (TOW Under Armour). The latter being essentially similar to the Norwegian NM142.

As for the Canadian Forces' LAV III, mounting the M113's Kvaerner Eureka ALT created 33 x LAV TUAs. But they were eventually turned into Infantry Section Carriers armed with remotely-controlled weapon systems. Gingie may be able to confirm but, AFAIK, all of the LAV TUA variants were converted to LAV ISC standard with a Nanuk RCWS replacing that Kvaerner Eureka TOW turret.
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« Reply #88 on: March 17, 2021, 11:13:21 AM »
I'm not even sure if we actually made all 33 LAV TUA, or if the production was shifted mid stream to the LAV RWS. It all became moot when the Army soon after decided to go with LAV-6. Which, while externally similar, is around 95% new parts.

I saw the Ontario Armour Museum (?) in Oshawa has a running LAV-III now! Looks like it has full EIS.

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« Reply #89 on: May 13, 2021, 11:16:12 PM »
Repurpose those Stryker hulls!

The Army announced Wednesday that it is planning to divest all of its Stryker Mobile Gun Systems by the end of fiscal 2022. The service said in a news release it had decided the time has come to retire the M1128 Stryker Mobile Gun System after a study showed it is obsolete, and its out-of-date cannon and automatic loader have systemic issues.
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2021/05/12/army-ditching-all-of-its-stryker-mobile-gun-systems.html

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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #90 on: May 14, 2021, 03:17:46 PM »
I barely hit the 1 minute mark! Gods, how I hate that type of narration & voice! :o
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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #91 on: October 12, 2021, 07:55:27 PM »
Via Twitter. With a M777.



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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #92 on: October 13, 2021, 01:56:16 AM »
From AUSA I presume?
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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #93 on: October 13, 2021, 02:01:32 AM »
If only there was a 1/35 M777 kit available...
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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #94 on: October 13, 2021, 02:08:19 AM »
Could a 1/35 M198 be modified to look like a triple 7?

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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #95 on: October 13, 2021, 05:56:36 AM »
If only there was a 1/35 M777 kit available...
Someone did make one in 1:35th scale but it is not for sale to us common folk/proles.  :(
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Re: MOWAG Piranha, LAV, LAV II, LAV III/Stryker ICV vehicles
« Reply #96 on: October 14, 2021, 01:06:35 AM »
Yeah, I was the one who made contact.  I didn't mention it deliberately.
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