Author Topic: Vickers Valiant Ideas & Inspiration  (Read 16101 times)

Offline Rickshaw

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Re: Vickers Valiant Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #25 on: April 10, 2017, 07:23:28 PM »
Maritime strike version developed by the RAF to counter the Sverdlov threat?

Nice and sensible idea mate! (assuming it's before the identified structural fatigue issue were discovered)
Would make it the RAF equivalent of Soviet's 'Badger'
A good air-to-surface search radar.....A good EW suit.....
What anti-ship weapon would you arm it with?

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Re: Vickers Valiant Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #26 on: April 10, 2017, 07:34:18 PM »
Yeah, I hear and acknowledge your 'Highball' Rickshaw
But I'm thinking something more accurate, guided and something with a little more stand-off range!

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Re: Vickers Valiant Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #27 on: April 10, 2017, 08:47:17 PM »
Red Angel or Green Cheese maybe? These were historically the responses to the "Sverdlov scare" (and cancelled all the same).

Or then the RAF/FAA could just swallow their pride and buy an actual functional missile system from the Swedes, the venerable SAAB RB04 (first test launch 1955, squadron service 1959).

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Re: Vickers Valiant Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #28 on: April 11, 2017, 05:57:10 AM »
Yeah, I hear and acknowledge your 'Highball' Rickshaw
But I'm thinking something more accurate, guided and something with a little more stand-off range!

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Re: Vickers Valiant Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #29 on: April 11, 2017, 06:40:19 AM »
Wow, shit a brick Kalmola – the RB-04 of course!!
I’d been scratching my head regarding the adoption of a missile into an anti-ship weapon, and never gave the RB-04 a thought! Thank’s!!
You’ve also solved a problem for me regarding my ’Alternative ADF ORBAT' dilemma Kalmola! I specifically need a specialised anti-ship missile for the ADF to counter Indonesia’s Sverdlev problem, and now I’ve got it – RAAF modifies a portion of its squadron of Boeing B-50's, when replaced by Vickers Valiant B.2's into the long-range harbinger role, with turboprop's and RB-04's, to become long-range anti-Sverdlev platforms; or at least allow its Lockheed P-2 Neptune's be armed with RB-04's!!

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Re: Vickers Valiant Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #30 on: April 11, 2017, 07:29:26 AM »
Of course there is the single example of the prototype parasite fighter carrier version  ;) ;)





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Re: Vickers Valiant Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #31 on: April 11, 2017, 12:02:55 PM »
Yeah, I hear and acknowledge your 'Highball' Rickshaw
But I'm thinking something more accurate, guided and something with a little more stand-off range!

M.A.D

When it is rocket boosted and nuclear warheaded, you don't need accuracy or "stand off" range!  ;)

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Re: Vickers Valiant Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #32 on: April 16, 2017, 01:03:04 PM »
Of course there is the single example of the prototype parasite fighter carrier version  ;) ;)




Ah, so Gnat converted to a ASM - a little reminiscent of the Soviet adoption of MiG-17 and MiG-19 aerodynamic adoption to make KS-1 Komet ('Kennel') & Kh-20M (AS-3 'Kangaroo')!

I like it buzzbomb, just as I love your model mate!!

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Re: Vickers Valiant Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #33 on: April 21, 2017, 05:13:01 AM »
I think buzzbomb's Gnats (Midges?) are still manned. I like it!
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Re: Vickers Valiant Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #34 on: April 22, 2017, 02:12:20 AM »
I think buzzbomb's Gnats (Midges?) are still manned. I like it!

Indeed.  Though the idea of a big ASM using the Folland Gnat as a starting point is interesting.
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Re: Vickers Valiant Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #35 on: October 02, 2021, 04:50:03 AM »




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Re: Vickers Valiant Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #36 on: February 05, 2022, 08:12:42 PM »
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A very nice 1/72 Valiant B.2 build.

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Re: Vickers Valiant Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #37 on: February 06, 2022, 02:40:53 AM »
 :smiley:
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Re: Vickers Valiant Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #38 on: February 06, 2022, 03:51:23 AM »
2 real world examples are sexy, the prototype:



and the B.2:

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Re: Vickers Valiant Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #39 on: February 06, 2022, 04:48:37 AM »
I've got a conversion to do the top one using an AiM Valiant B.1 and an AiM Valiant B.2 in the stash ----- both 1/72

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Re: Vickers Valiant Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #40 on: February 06, 2022, 05:45:28 AM »
That B2 is really sweet.

For a run of the mill type aircraft, it can still look quite the business