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Vickers Valiant Ideas & Inspiration
« on: December 24, 2011, 05:01:55 AM »
With the Airfix Vickers Valiant (even if it is 1/72) still new on the shelves, how about some appropriate ideas?  I'll start:



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Re: Vickers Valiant Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2011, 07:09:24 AM »
The B-47 style canopy puts a different spin on it Greg    8)

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Re: Vickers Valiant Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2011, 07:32:39 AM »
 :in-love: :in-love: :in-love: :in-love: Please send me a Hi res copy for future work!!!!!!
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Re: Vickers Valiant Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2011, 10:00:35 AM »
I have yet to understand how the Brit pilots flew the V-Bombers so well given how bad the visibility was from their cockpits.

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Re: Vickers Valiant Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2011, 03:38:11 AM »
Here's one to through the JMNs off their game:

There were proposals to fit the Valiant with a similar tail gun - this was known as the "Eager Beaver" arrangement:



Do a model showing this fitted (a B-47 tail gun would probably be able to be used).

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Re: Vickers Valiant Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2011, 03:41:53 AM »
:in-love: :in-love: :in-love: :in-love: Please send me a Hi res copy for future work!!!!!!

Will do so as soon as I find the original again... :yush:
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Re: Vickers Valiant Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2011, 12:38:07 PM »
B-47 cockpit-canopy and tail guns are ideal.
Two or four SR-71 engines in the wings and you can fly it faster until control hopelessly lost, the structure breaks apart, the aluminum melts.

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Re: Vickers Valiant Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2011, 10:20:39 AM »
Not easy I'll admit, but how about going further down the B-47 road and giving the Valiant podded engines? Options might be:

A. 4 x individual pods

B. 2 x twin pods

C. Sperrin-style over-and-under pods
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Re: Vickers Valiant Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2012, 07:36:54 AM »
USAF!
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Re: Vickers Valiant Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2012, 07:58:27 AM »
USAF!

USAF TAC service.  Two GAU-8 and two Vulcans in nose.  Rocket pods under wings.  Tomahawks, Mavericks, JDAMs, dumb bombs in bomb bay.
USN patrol/ASW.  At least on GAU-8 in nose.  Harpoons, torpedoes, sonobuoys, whatever else in bombay.
Tail guns and maybe top turret.  Bottom turret ?

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How about turret nose with GAU-8 and a bay to accept any of Bushmaster, Vulcan, M39, 50 cal, 7.62 mini gun depending on mission.
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Re: Vickers Valiant Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2016, 03:37:19 AM »
Not easy I'll admit, but how about going further down the B-47 road and giving the Valiant podded engines? Options might be:

A. 4 x individual pods

B. 2 x twin pods

C. Sperrin-style over-and-under pods

I'm thinking 4 individual pods would look good.
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Re: Vickers Valiant Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2016, 08:01:30 AM »
Since AIM have their Valiant B.2 conversion out, that twin 20mm tail gun becomes even more desirable for a whif: the RAF considered a tail gun to be desirable on the various low-level bomber projects.
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Re: Vickers Valiant Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2016, 08:31:45 AM »
How about mating the Victor wings to the Valiant Fuselage with that tandem seating arrangement suggested by GTX in the OP? 
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Re: Vickers Valiant Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2016, 08:47:29 AM »
Would love to see a coloured profile of an RAAF Valiant B.2!  :P

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Re: Vickers Valiant Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2016, 11:21:10 AM »
Not easy I'll admit, but how about going further down the B-47 road and giving the Valiant podded engines? Options might be:

A. 4 x individual pods

B. 2 x twin pods

C. Sperrin-style over-and-under pods


I'm thinking 4 individual pods would look good.


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Re: Vickers Valiant Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2016, 03:43:55 PM »
Would love to see a coloured profile of an RAAF Valiant B.2!  :P

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My first time trying to do a profile and foly huck it's hard ;D



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Re: Vickers Valiant Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2016, 03:48:44 AM »
 :)
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Re: Vickers Valiant Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2016, 01:20:08 PM »
Would love to see a coloured profile of an RAAF Valiant B.2!  :P

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Looks bloody good too me mate!
Although, going by its landing gear, is it a Valiant B.1 or B.2, my friend  :-[

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Re: Vickers Valiant Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2016, 05:37:33 PM »
Actually, what you've drawn is interesting. I've always wondered what the V-Bombers could have looked like if the fuselages were built more 'box' like in section instead of round. You drawing shows quite well what it would look like.

I would call you're a B.3 though, B.1 had undercarriage as you have it, B.2's had 4-Wheel trucks for main gear.

Like this

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Re: Vickers Valiant Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2016, 03:38:22 AM »
I believe this one is based upon the one I drew on the first page of this thread - a Valiant with B-47 style cockpit.

Until the AiM conversion is available you could scratch build a B.2 like this.
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Re: Vickers Valiant Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2017, 10:54:05 PM »
Maritime strike version developed by the RAF to counter the Sverdlov threat?

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Re: Vickers Valiant Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2017, 11:35:50 PM »

Until the AiM conversion is available you could scratch build a B.2 like this.


It would have been easier if you just got an AiM Valiant B.2 vacuform kit (got one in the stash), but now the AiM resin conversion for the Airfix kit is out, it's a moot point

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Re: Vickers Valiant Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2017, 04:29:32 AM »
RAAF Valiant anyone?

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Re: Vickers Valiant Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2017, 09:04:21 AM »
RAAF Valiant anyone?




Change those upper wing roundel's to skippy's, and I I've got a use for your RAAF Valiant Greg!!

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Re: Vickers Valiant Ideas & Inspiration
« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2017, 09:09:48 AM »
Maritime strike version developed by the RAF to counter the Sverdlov threat?

Nice and sensible idea mate! (assuming it's before the identified structural fatigue issue were discovered)
Would make it the RAF equivalent of Soviet's 'Badger'
A good air-to-surface search radar.....A good EW suit.....
What anti-ship weapon would you arm it with?

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