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Leopard 1 and Leopard 2 Tanks
« on: April 28, 2012, 12:11:33 AM »
Alexander Jost used the Perfect Scale (Kit number 35040) Leopard Upgrade kit to build his HobbyBoss 1/35th scale Leopard 2A4

Click on thumbnail or html to view the build article at Modellversium.de

Alex has built a very nice looking Leopard 2.
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Re: Leopard 1 and Leopard 2 Tanks
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2012, 03:46:28 AM »
That's very well done!
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Re: Leopard 1 and Leopard 2 Tanks
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2012, 04:47:41 AM »
Some photos of the Leo2 prototype:





Note the extra 20mm cannon secondary target /anti-aircraft use.

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Re: Leopard 1 and Leopard 2 Tanks
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2012, 04:52:25 AM »
Some real world Leo1 proposals:

MLRS:



SPH:




Matador twin 30mm SPAAG:




Leo1 with 120mm main gun (sometimes also referred to as Leo3):





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Re: Leopard 1 and Leopard 2 Tanks
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2012, 10:56:18 AM »
How about a Leo1 based heavy IFV:

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Re: Leopard 1 and Leopard 2 Tanks
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2012, 10:58:53 AM »
Leo3 shown above:

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Re: Leopard 1 and Leopard 2 Tanks
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2012, 10:59:41 AM »
Leo1 based demolition tank:

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Re: Leopard 1 and Leopard 2 Tanks
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2012, 11:00:24 AM »
Leo one based APC:

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Re: Leopard 1 and Leopard 2 Tanks
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2012, 11:04:46 AM »
JagdLeo1:

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Re: Leopard 1 and Leopard 2 Tanks
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2012, 12:11:42 PM »
The APC variants seem to have no rear exists.   I think a better idea was shown the the Jordanian conversion of the Centurion to a HAPC, the Temash, where they reversed the vehicle, driving it effectively backwards so that the exit was now through what was previously the front glacis.  The Leopard 1 would also be rather a light-weight HAPC, it was never heavily armoured.

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Re: Leopard 1 and Leopard 2 Tanks
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2012, 09:41:09 PM »
Diethelm Berlage built a Leopard 1A6 from the Revell/Italeri kit and a self-made conversion set. More pics HERE.

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Re: Leopard 1 and Leopard 2 Tanks
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2012, 02:36:32 AM »
Given the Leo1 was a contemporary of the French AMX-30, what about a couple of variants similar to AMX-30 variants.  Namely, what if we were to have a Roland SAM armed Gepard or a version with the turret from a GCT 155mm/AuF1?





The latter would be quite able to be modelled by stealing the turret from a Heller 1/35 AMX 30 AUFI.  I'm not sure about the Roland though...does anyone do a kit of any Roland variant?
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Re: Leopard 1 and Leopard 2 Tanks
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2012, 03:45:00 AM »
That first Leo! MLRS with the dual "six-packs" could be interesting, particularly if a second unit was converted to carry reloads.

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Re: Leopard 1 and Leopard 2 Tanks
« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2012, 03:55:56 AM »
Some different Gepard proposals:



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Re: Leopard 1 and Leopard 2 Tanks
« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2012, 06:57:14 AM »
I love that Leo demolition. ;)

I have the Tamiya leo I in the stash. I am thinking of adding an 88 to it,for a post war scenario where the Thierd Riech was not defeated. The Leo was fast for its time. Over 30 MPH. Imagine that speed with an 88. :o
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Re: Leopard 1 and Leopard 2 Tanks
« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2012, 08:23:52 AM »
Given the Leo 1 has a 105mm gun, an 88 would be quite a downgrade.  The Germans were experimenting with 105mm & 128mm tank weapons in late WW2, so a 105mm equipped vehicle is quite valid.

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Re: Leopard 1 and Leopard 2 Tanks
« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2012, 08:38:40 AM »
Given the Leo 1 has a 105mm gun, an 88 would be quite a downgrade.  The Germans were experimenting with 105mm & 128mm tank weapons in late WW2, so a 105mm equipped vehicle is quite valid.

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That is true John. :) I wonder who all makes a W.W.2 German 105mm main gun.
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Re: Leopard 1 and Leopard 2 Tanks
« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2012, 10:55:44 AM »
You would probably be best placed to derive it from the German 10.5cm Flak 38-39:



Not sure if anyone models it.
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Re: Leopard 1 and Leopard 2 Tanks
« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2012, 11:36:22 AM »
My take on Leopard recce and DFSV.
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Re: Leopard 1 and Leopard 2 Tanks
« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2012, 11:37:08 AM »
For an actual tank gun, the 'Dicker Max' or 10.5cm K18 auf Panzer Selbstfahrlafette IVa was armed with the 105mm K18 gun.  I believe Trumpeter makes a kit of the type in 35th scale.

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« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2012, 11:39:17 AM »
Weren't the Germans also working on a 100mm low-recoil (recoilless?) gun during WWII?
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Re: Leopard 1 and Leopard 2 Tanks
« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2012, 12:14:27 PM »
Leo1 with 120mm main gun (sometimes also referred to as Leo3)......

With MEXAS armour pack for a what-if Canadian tank?
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Re: Leopard 1 and Leopard 2 Tanks
« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2012, 12:50:40 PM »
You know, somewhere at some point in time, I swear I remember reading a proposal from Giat (or Nexter) that involved equipping the Leo 1 with various turrets from the AMX 30 family. I got the 155 mm SP gun and I kind of understood the DCA (for countries that didn't use the Gepard) but the reason for swapping the turret from the gun tank went over my head a bit.

I've always been a fan of the "cast turret" versions of the Leo 1 and the later A5-A6 variants of the Leo 2. Both also seem like great subjects for Whiffing.

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Re: Leopard 1 and Leopard 2 Tanks
« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2012, 01:01:19 PM »
For an actual tank gun, the 'Dicker Max' or 10.5cm K18 auf Panzer Selbstfahrlafette IVa was armed with the 105mm K18 gun.  I believe Trumpeter makes a kit of the type in 35th scale.

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I forgot about that one.  Yes there are kits available from at least DML and Trumpeter in 1/35.

How good was the K18 in the antitank role?
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Re: Leopard 1 and Leopard 2 Tanks
« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2012, 01:04:19 PM »
According to Achtung Panzer, the gun was capable of penetrating 111mm of 30 degrees sloped armor plate at 2000 meters which isn't too shabby and apparently had success against KV & T-34 series vehicles.

http://www.achtungpanzer.com/sel105.htm#pzjag

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