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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #50 on: January 22, 2012, 07:52:53 PM »
Makes me wonder if the legs holding the spats couldn't be made shorter by extending the tailwheel stinger. Also instead of a simple leg to hold the spats, maybe a two poster like on RAF heavies and Mosquitos, shrouded and a radiator bath there between engine nacelle and spat? Nice clean conformal single shape with wheel at the bottom.
Thanks RussC, I have:
- extended the tailboom
- doubled each leg to the wheel
- added a radiator between engine and pod
Alas I have been unable to make shorter the landing gear: the propeller ground clearance is not big...

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #51 on: February 04, 2012, 10:55:58 AM »
From JP Vieira's wonderful topic http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=15.240 :
And now for a prop He-162
a slanting view of mine, with asymmetric twin-fuselage derivative:

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #52 on: February 05, 2012, 03:43:58 AM »
That's some great stuff, mon ami! I especially like your "twinned" He-162 with the V-tail.

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #53 on: February 05, 2012, 02:54:49 PM »
Thanks Brian.
And still at http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=15.240 our dear Admin GTX posted a twin-boom He-162 of his own. Both should not fight one another but marry, into a double 162, asymmetric of course...

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #54 on: February 05, 2012, 05:26:18 PM »
Nice. :)
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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #55 on: February 05, 2012, 09:48:33 PM »
Those are all great: congrats

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #56 on: February 06, 2012, 01:25:34 AM »


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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #57 on: February 06, 2012, 01:53:06 AM »
You've been doing some really cool work lately!  :-*
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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #58 on: February 06, 2012, 02:05:10 AM »
Thanks to all of you!

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #59 on: February 06, 2012, 03:48:44 AM »
The "break" in the horizontal stabilizers reminds me of that Blohm & Voss asymmetric observation prototype, Tophe. Interesting to see two differenct concepts from two separate firms "married" in one aircraft.

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #60 on: February 06, 2012, 12:26:52 PM »
Thanks Brian, you are right this seemed poorly balanced, so this morning (on my side of the Earth) I have created a more solid version:

This one seems possible, and it may be the first airplane ever as "twin-engined with piston on port and turboprop on starboard", that is why I included it at the end of my asymmetric-aircraft Web-site http://cmeunier.chez-alice.fr/Asymm_addition.htm referring to both genius JPV & GTX creators. Thanks again.

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #61 on: February 06, 2012, 12:58:20 PM »
a slanting view of mine, with asymmetric twin-fuselage derivative:


On the twin with the V-tails, why not join the two "inner" tails in a larger inverted-V-tail and do away with the outer tails?  Note that this would leave all sorts of room for a central pod/nacelle, of whatever kind, between the two fuselages.  The ultimate evolution might be a push/pull twin-engine pod (piston or turboprop), or a twin jet pod (ala' Ar-234C) with no engines on the fuselages.

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #62 on: February 06, 2012, 01:41:10 PM »
Thanks a lot, engineer. Though the week-end is finished here and I must go to work. These new silhouettes of yours will come to life this week, probably. :)

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #63 on: February 07, 2012, 01:34:49 AM »
I did it the first day of the week, thanks Evan!

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #64 on: February 07, 2012, 04:25:25 AM »
These last three are right on !!!

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #65 on: February 07, 2012, 05:58:39 AM »
Those are great: Thanks Tophe

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #66 on: February 12, 2012, 12:53:45 AM »
For Christmas, I got the wonderful huge book "Chasseurs russes et soviétiques 1915-1950" (Russian & Soviet fighters 1915-1950) by Herbert Léonard, ETAI publisher, France 2009. 464 pages... In this one, I loved many ones but I selected the poorly known MiG-5 to draw a zwilling (dvukh-fuselajnii):

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #67 on: February 14, 2012, 06:35:18 AM »
Your four-engined "zwillig" version is a delight, Tophe!

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #68 on: February 15, 2012, 11:40:03 AM »
Thanks again Brian.
Well, from the Blohm und Voss Bv 138, seaplane twin-boomer with a rear post, was created the Bv 138L, landplane twin-boomer with a rear cargo door:

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #69 on: February 15, 2012, 11:50:10 AM »
Ooo Tophe ... love your Bv 138L! Very nice  :)
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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #70 on: February 15, 2012, 05:49:00 PM »
Great idea.
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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #71 on: February 16, 2012, 04:49:02 AM »
Aww those little spats are sooooo cute!
 :-* :-*
I'd blush if I had any shame...

Thank you, mon ami!

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #72 on: February 16, 2012, 11:25:38 AM »
Thanks to all of you!
Those spats are not very small, just the plane is big so they are small in comparing... hehe ;). I guess there would be 4 spats but 3 of them are hidden by the wing (rear starboard) and fuselage (front & rear, port).

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #73 on: February 26, 2012, 03:02:37 PM »
Last night, I made a huge historical discovery: in Bell's archives was hidden the secret project of Jetcobras (both P-39J and P-63J): at the beginning of the jet age, 1941, it was hoped that a single turbojet could replace the piston engine of a Cobra, then it appeared that 2 turbojets would be needed and that directed towards the XP-59A (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_P-59_Airacomet ) but the very true first US jet-fighter was the P-39J!
Then the alarm clock rung and I rushed to the computer to inform you of this very truth!

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Re: Tophe's slanting views
« Reply #74 on: February 27, 2012, 10:13:20 AM »
Very nice Tophe! Your bottom-left P-63J concept is very like the original XP-59B proposal  :D
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